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Post by llannerch on Jun 6, 2011 11:41:28 GMT
Don't some WPL clubs have 'arrangements' with English clubs including Prem clubs?
If they do, and I'll happily stand corrected, then if the lucre, coaching and player favours are good enough then I don't see any reason why should object to B sides.
I like the idea, though I'm sure there's a bureaucrat out there who has found a rule to prevent it
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Post by Tim P on Jun 6, 2011 14:36:58 GMT
Why don't you Saes loving league fans switch to summer and leave the WPL as it is where we are quite happy. Fucking sick of all you Saes league followers thinking the WPL should be a football convenience when your beloved Liverpool and United aren't playing. Perhaps if you all showed more interest in your local clubs and less interest in the EPL you wouldn't feel the need to keep making suggestions that we should change our whole make up just to suit you Saes arseole suckers. Unless you are going to get down to a WPL ground each week and pay your money keep your fucking nose out of our affairs. You condesending wankers. What you are failing to see is the big picture. Yes or no - do you want a better WPL product? If you do, then you need to put aside your distaste for Welsh people that support english clubs (something that I have come to understand, and agree with, over the last couple of years) and accept that the WPL simply cannot improve much more until it moves to summer. |
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Post by Tim P on Jun 6, 2011 14:38:31 GMT
Rather than a 'B' side, I would like to see independent Cardiff and Swansea clubs set up...naturally, strong links to the 'other' Cardiff and Swansea teams would be encouraged.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 14:43:06 GMT
As usual its the old duffers in charge of the WPL holding back progress just like in the FAW. During the winter the pitches get trashed by the snow or the rain, plus loads of games get called off. It just makes sense. They should look at the Irish league and see how standards have improved there because of the summer move. Didn't TNS hammer Bohemians 5-1!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 17:23:17 GMT
@gloriachesterfan Your the one who's named after a Saes team you fucking hypocrit. And you're the one who's named after the Patron Saint of England so what does that make you? |
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Post by saints19 on Jun 6, 2011 17:26:53 GMT
@ cliff: Yes, but apart from that one result Irish teams have generally done much better than they did before the switch to summer. This year, Sligo Rovers are starting from the third round in the Europa League - that shows how much progress they've made. Their league is ranked in the early 30s out of 52 in Europe (Liechtenstein don't have a league). Ten years ago or thereabouts they were below the League of Wales in about 45th place.
I think the WPL should follow their lead, it can't be total coincidence that their results have suddenly picked up with the switch to summer football. If there are short-term complications they will be more than outweighed by the benefits in the long-term. But as I've said, plenty of clubs oppose the switch, mostly clubs in the northern heartlands of the league, for various reasons. It is disappointing and personally I think clubs like Bangor City are rather backward-looking in general, but there will not be a change unless the clubs agree to it.
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Post by stu on Jun 6, 2011 19:11:58 GMT
I'm sure I read something a while back that the FAW were looking into having reserve teams from the exiled clubs in the Welsh system. But there is the issue over ownership.
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Post by georgetm1 on Jun 6, 2011 19:57:30 GMT
@gloriachesterfan Your the one who's named after a Saes team you fucking hypocrit. And you're the one who's named after the Patron Saint of England so what does that make you? Thats my actual name you fucking mong. And no im not English, just like St George. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 20:42:00 GMT
And you're the one who's named after the Patron Saint of England so what does that make you? Thats my actual name you fucking mong. And no im not English, just like St George. (In true Facebook style) Storm likes this |
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Post by saints19 on Jun 6, 2011 21:41:06 GMT
St George wasn't English? How dare anyone say such obvious liez ! !1111
But seriously, I have no idea where GCF's outburst came from. Nothing in flynnfan's post implied what he said.
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Post by flynnfan on Jun 6, 2011 22:21:52 GMT
Diolch saints. I thought gloria's outburst was uncalled for too...but then, what do you expect from Chester fans? Was just trying to start a discussion about how Welsh football could be taken forward and improved at all levels.
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Post by flynnfan on Jun 6, 2011 22:37:22 GMT
Don't let them compete in Europe, don't let them play in the Welsh cup. I'm sure there are ways around it. It just seems to me that the B team system works wonders for player development in places like Spain and Germany, so its well worth looking at.
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Post by idiot on Jun 7, 2011 10:46:28 GMT
Rather than a 'B' side, I would like to see independent Cardiff and Swansea clubs set up...naturally, strong links to the 'other' Cardiff and Swansea teams would be encouraged. yeah i agree with this,i cant help but think that it would de-value the league having anyone's B-side in it i can see why people are suggesting it though but id rather the clubs loaned out their players to low sides rather than have a B-side there's also the fact that the madrid/barca/bayern etc B-sides play in the same countries league system..where as you'd have a english league side's B-side playing in a welsh league,which im sure would have some complications |
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Post by idiot on Jun 7, 2011 11:34:17 GMT
i can see what gloria's saying,i watch a fair share of LOW but i also watch wrexham...if you dont pay any attention to the LOW during the season then who are you/me to demand it change its format to suit the bored english club fans
that said,the benefits of summer football for the clubs are obvious
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Post by stu on Jun 7, 2011 14:12:23 GMT
The thing is though, there are probably far more bored fans of exiled clubs than there are of LOW clubs.
I'm sure Barry Town could benefit from some of the bored Cardiff fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2011 20:29:10 GMT
Diolch saints. I thought gloria's outburst was uncalled for too...but then, what do you expect from Chester fans? Was just trying to start a discussion about how Welsh football could be taken forward and improved at all levels. Incorrect assumption Flynnfan, I actually support a WPL club, thought my post would have gave that away. The name is just a name but does not mean I an a Chester fan no more than Storm indicates that he is a strong wind with some rain thrown in or that Idiot is well an Idiot. They are just names people choose on boards like this. |
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Post by stu on Jun 9, 2011 14:20:23 GMT
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Post by llannerch on Jun 12, 2011 8:14:34 GMT
Diolch saints. I thought gloria's outburst was uncalled for too...but then, what do you expect from Chester fans? Was just trying to start a discussion about how Welsh football could be taken forward and improved at all levels. Incorrect assumption Flynnfan, I actually support a WPL club, thought my post would have gave that away. The name is just a name but does not mean I an a Chester fan no more than Storm indicates that he is a strong wind with some rain thrown in or that Idiot is well an Idiot. They are just names people choose on boards like this. I'm quite surprised anyone thought you were genuinely a Chester fan |
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 2, 2011 19:04:05 GMT
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Post by bale-droed on Jul 2, 2011 20:05:32 GMT
call me crazy, but make some sort of regional football as ive said before. rhondda team,powys, west glamorgan etc etc 10 of them to play each other 4 times top 8 qualify for a welsh knockout cup competition. that would help
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Post by stu on Jul 2, 2011 20:41:18 GMT
It should be for Welsh players. There is no point getting foreigners in to do a job that someone on the books of another club could do.
Maybe it would require a system where by there is no relegation penalty.
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Post by saints19 on Jul 3, 2011 1:47:48 GMT
If you forced clubs to have just Welsh players the league would lose a lot of its best players. Take players like Richard Partridge, former Liverpool and ROI under-21. It's simply the case that many of the best players available to WPL teams are not Welsh, and it is surely better for these clubs to have these players and the league to benefit as a whole. There are good numbers of Welsh players in every squad (if not majorities in every squad). There's no need for change.
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Post by stu on Jul 3, 2011 9:11:40 GMT
Yes but if clubs had to field Welsh players then it would mean that they would have to actually go out and find / develop Welsh players.
Instead of just taking the cheaper and easier option of getting foreigners in.
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Post by raptor on Jul 3, 2011 9:37:58 GMT
Something ought to happen with the WPL. I couldn't tell you who the current champions are who won it last year or the year before (but could make an educated guess).
All I know is that there are some ex County players down at Neath plus Trundle.
I can't get interested in it I'm afraid.
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Post by saints19 on Jul 3, 2011 11:02:46 GMT
Yes but if clubs had to field Welsh players then it would mean that they would have to actually go out and find / develop Welsh players. Instead of just taking the cheaper and easier option of getting foreigners in. There is one major problem with that, being that local talent often just isn't there to the standard of the best semi-pro foreigners. It is worth noting that all WPL clubs have academies which comparable-level clubs in England often lack and they must field Welsh players in underage competitions. Introducing a blanket ban on foreigners would be a terrible idea. |
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 3, 2011 13:27:41 GMT
Not a blanket ban saints. The idea in that article for 5 homegrown players in each match day squad seems a good one though.
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Post by saints19 on Jul 3, 2011 13:57:34 GMT
That is almost certainly already the case at the moment. Bringing in the rule would only formalise it and make it a requirement, which could adversely affect the clubs in future.
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Post by cymrupenybont on Jul 4, 2011 6:37:05 GMT
I think it needs to be made a lot easier for locally based players to move up to the WPL.
Nobody can say there arent players good enough to do it - from the Bridgend area recently one boy has gone from Caerau football club (welsh div 3) to Hereford and one from Lewistown (Bridgend league i believe maybe senior league!!?) to Rangers?!?
Would think this isnt just some incredible standard in the Bridgend area but the same exists everywhere - why havent Bridgend Town or Bryntirion picked up on either of these? Why havent Port Talbot or Neath (arguably our two local top teams...)
If a boy is good enough to go to Rangers then a) someone at his club should have been getting him moved up the ranks - there needs to be some sort of affiliation link perhaps - and b) how the hell was he unnoticed? what else exists out there???
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Post by flynnfan on Aug 11, 2011 18:53:03 GMT
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Post by flynnfan on Aug 26, 2011 16:38:16 GMT
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