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Post by dragon64 on Aug 28, 2024 19:02:36 GMT
He well start one of the games surely as what was the point in again chasing him to sit on the bench This clears that up Bellamy said- "I was aware he could play for Wales," Bellamy said. "I don't know the conversations he had with previous managers. I like to stay clear of that. "I don't know what went on with those conversations, but I had the opportunity to talk to him and he was really keen. Usually at his age they maybe pull away from international football, and maybe concentrate on family and club football. "But he was the reverse. He felt he needed to do this for him. He had the aim of going to a World Cup. He wanted to be part of that. "He was under no illusions that he wouldn't automatically start. He's going to have to compete for his place like everyone else is. But his leadership roles and his experience, he is able to handle that. I believe he'll be a big asset with his leadership values, and someone with that experience will be a big benefit to the group." |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 28, 2024 21:15:18 GMT
Think if he gets himself regular Championship football then the fans will forgive him. Being a regularly playing keeper at that level gives us something we haven't had for quite a while now, and really patches up a key weakness in our squad
If he stays as a no.2 then I will be underwhelmed by his inclusion
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 28, 2024 22:50:45 GMT
Think if he gets himself regular Championship football then the fans will forgive him. Being a regularly playing keeper at that level gives us something we haven't had for quite a while now, and really patches up a key weakness in our squad If he stays as a no.2 then I will be underwhelmed by his inclusion just listened to the Feast of football[not the same without Elis James] and there was a section they played with Bellamy hinting Darlow's situation might change shortly at club level, so I take that he is going for a loan/transfer where he will be getting regular game time |
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Post by spiritof16 on Aug 29, 2024 0:47:19 GMT
I’m Welsh through and through but would qualify to play for another country through a grandparent, I would hold on to that dream of playing for Wales as long as possible. If it then got to a point where I thought that a Wales call up was definitely not going to happen anymore, but the other country were still interested, I would still be honoured to represent them.
I personally dont blame Darlow for doing exactly the same.
I actually admire his self belief that he clung on to the dream of making it into the England team for so long.
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Post by njdragon on Aug 29, 2024 7:53:03 GMT
I wonder if the introduction of Martyn Margetson from England camp has anything to do with this.
Anyway our goal keeping situation looks already far healthier than it did the past 2 years, Davies, ward getting games already and darlow I imagine looking for a loan more. That’s got to be healthy for wales!!
Personally I’d like this competition to push ward for a loan move as I still see him as a top championship keeper. To be fair to him he’s done well with us in the past
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2024 8:05:36 GMT
Think if he gets himself regular Championship football then the fans will forgive him. Being a regularly playing keeper at that level gives us something we haven't had for quite a while now, and really patches up a key weakness in our squad If he stays as a no.2 then I will be underwhelmed by his inclusion just listened to the Feast of football[not the same without Elis James] and there was a section they played with Bellamy hinting Darlow's situation might change shortly at club level, so I take that he is going for a loan/transfer where he will be getting regular game time He hinted at something similar when speaking to Sioned on Sgorio too. Feel Darlow will probably end up being our number 1 for the season |
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Post by melynwy on Aug 29, 2024 8:19:13 GMT
Is there a slight chance that a subset of fans in the stadium will boo Darlow if he starts, or when his name is announced? That would be hugely disappointing.
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Post by vvm on Aug 29, 2024 9:38:43 GMT
Is there a slight chance that a subset of fans in the stadium will boo Darlow if he starts, or when his name is announced? That would be hugely disappointing. I'd say unlikely, can't rule it out but we're not generally the kind to boo our own players. |
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Post by hooky on Aug 29, 2024 9:56:57 GMT
Is there a slight chance that a subset of fans in the stadium will boo Darlow if he starts, or when his name is announced? That would be hugely disappointing. I'd say unlikely, can't rule it out but we're not generally the kind to boo our own players. If you hear that then escort them out and tell them to support England. |
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 30, 2024 19:52:05 GMT
Think if he gets himself regular Championship football then the fans will forgive him. Being a regularly playing keeper at that level gives us something we haven't had for quite a while now, and really patches up a key weakness in our squad If he stays as a no.2 then I will be underwhelmed by his inclusion just listened to the Feast of football[not the same without Elis James] and there was a section they played with Bellamy hinting Darlow's situation might change shortly at club level, so I take that he is going for a loan/transfer where he will be getting regular game timewell that doesnt look as if it is happening so that means another keeper who isnt getting game time |
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Post by dai on Aug 30, 2024 20:00:53 GMT
Anyone fancy him to actually start vs Turkey?? Wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 30, 2024 20:08:06 GMT
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Post by melynwy on Aug 31, 2024 10:02:51 GMT
just listened to the Feast of football[not the same without Elis James] and there was a section they played with Bellamy hinting Darlow's situation might change shortly at club level, so I take that he is going for a loan/transfer where he will be getting regular game timewell that doesnt look as if it is happening so that means another keeper who isnt getting game time Yes. It's a funny one isn't it - it's a bold move by Bellamy. On one hand it seems a bit incongruous calling up a player who'n unlikely to be popular with the fans (unless he performs, of course) and who seems to in the exact same position as our other main goalkeepers - on the bench at around the same level. On the other hand, it's a very strong statement that he's not happy with the situation, and he's bringing more competition in at the same level (which, as it is, is the highest level we have available for us) - so he's coming in to compete for the starting spot. And if our best GKs are not playing for their clubs, they at least need competition for the Wales spot in the hope that it drives/focuses them. On balance, I'm happy with it, and I don't really have any beef with Darlow having refused us in the past. If he'd had my uprbringing, then playing for anyone other than Wales wouldn't be up for consideration, but these things are very different for different people! |
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Post by talyfan on Aug 31, 2024 10:19:46 GMT
Still a number of countries with their transfer window open. However, not holding my breath he'll get a move or any other of our keepers will.
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Post by wirralwelsh on Sept 1, 2024 2:32:59 GMT
I like how he's waited until his England cal-up prospects declined to absolute zero before declaring for us. At least he'll never die wondering if he could have made it with them!
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Post by melynwy on Sept 9, 2024 21:15:58 GMT
Did alright didn't he? A couple of good saves.
It was probably the worst possible pitch to try and gauge his footwork, but he did seem to want to play a few more progressive passes than Ward does (maybe not a great call in those conditions though!).
It'll be interesting to see who plays next. Ward did nothing to deserve losing place, and Darlow did enough to deserve keeping his place.
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Post by cadno on Sept 9, 2024 21:17:33 GMT
Agree good saves, but I actually thought Ward took more risks and had better distribution / tried passing it out more, but the bad conditions might’ve forced Darlow to go route 1 more often
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Post by hooky on Sept 9, 2024 21:37:59 GMT
I think Darlow is more decisive and has better reflexes than Ward?
Think when he closed down the striker who was 1 on 1 close to the goal is an example of that - sometimes Ward is a bit on his heels where Darlow makes a decision and hurries the striker
Anyway - competition is always a good thing - may the best main win
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Post by melynwy on Sept 9, 2024 21:42:15 GMT
I think Darlow is more decisive and has better reflexes than Ward? Think when he closed down the striker who was 1 on 1 close to the goal is an example of that - sometimes Ward is a bit on his heels where Darlow makes a decision and hurries the striker Anyway - competition is always a good thing - may the best main win Yes, very possibly. Ward does some very flat-footed at times. |
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Post by melynwy on Sept 9, 2024 21:55:32 GMT
Just looked again, and that double save just before Davies’ block is absolutely incredible. I think it happened so quickly and looked so chaotic that it wasn’t picked up on by the commentators for being so good.
The first comes off our own player, and it looks unstoppable. It looks a bit of a lucky one and that Darlow doesn’t know much about it, yet he makes a conscious effort to move his leg to save it. The follow up block is also brilliant.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 9, 2024 22:47:18 GMT
That's a litmus test of a debut, and he came out of it well. Thought his command of the box, reactions and shot stopping were all better than Ward's. Very difficult to gauge distribution but feel he did okay
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Post by insertname on Sept 9, 2024 22:48:37 GMT
Did alright didn't he? A couple of good saves. It was probably the worst possible pitch to try and gauge his footwork, but he did seem to want to play a few more progressive passes than Ward does (maybe not a great call in those conditions though!). It'll be interesting to see who plays next. Ward did nothing to deserve losing place, and Darlow did enough to deserve keeping his place. “Did nothing to deserve losing his place” Apart from the small matter of taking playing for Wales for granted by not seeking first team football. I won’t be crying any tears on his behalf if he never plays for Wales again because Darlow or whoever keeps him out of the side |
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2024 23:08:42 GMT
Is he the first keeper we’ve had that opts for short sleeves instead of long? Just an observation tonight.
Did well though. A much better keeper than Ward.
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 10, 2024 4:23:06 GMT
Did alright didn't he? A couple of good saves. It was probably the worst possible pitch to try and gauge his footwork, but he did seem to want to play a few more progressive passes than Ward does (maybe not a great call in those conditions though!). It'll be interesting to see who plays next. Ward did nothing to deserve losing place, and Darlow did enough to deserve keeping his place. “Did nothing to deserve losing his place” Apart from the small matter of taking playing for Wales for granted by not seeking first team football. I won’t be crying any tears on his behalf if he never plays for Wales again because Darlow or whoever keeps him out of the side Wait until you see Darlow’s playing stats over the last few years. I take it you aren’t aware of Darlow’s almost identical situation? |
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Post by melynwy on Sept 10, 2024 6:25:30 GMT
Did alright didn't he? A couple of good saves. It was probably the worst possible pitch to try and gauge his footwork, but he did seem to want to play a few more progressive passes than Ward does (maybe not a great call in those conditions though!). It'll be interesting to see who plays next. Ward did nothing to deserve losing place, and Darlow did enough to deserve keeping his place. “Did nothing to deserve losing his place” Apart from the small matter of taking playing for Wales for granted by not seeking first team football. I won’t be crying any tears on his behalf if he never plays for Wales again because Darlow or whoever keeps him out of the side I was referring to the Turkey game. |
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Post by dai on Sept 10, 2024 7:31:31 GMT
“Did nothing to deserve losing his place” Apart from the small matter of taking playing for Wales for granted by not seeking first team football. I won’t be crying any tears on his behalf if he never plays for Wales again because Darlow or whoever keeps him out of the side Wait until you see Darlow’s playing stats over the last few years. I take it you aren’t aware of Darlow’s almost identical situation? FWIW, I looked at the stats, and yeah it's a similar situation in recent years. However Darlow has like 250 league appearances since his career began, while Ward has around 100. |
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 10, 2024 7:35:50 GMT
Some good saves last night on a really dodgy pitch, he did very well, just a shame he left it so late before giving his career a bit more meaning.
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 10, 2024 8:19:01 GMT
Wait until you see Darlow’s playing stats over the last few years. I take it you aren’t aware of Darlow’s almost identical situation? FWIW, I looked at the stats, and yeah it's a similar situation in recent years. However Darlow has like 250 league appearances since his career began, while Ward has around 100. They’ve had more or less the same in the last 10 years though so very similar situations (except of course for the fact that Danny Ward has an extra 40 odd Wales appearances in that time haha). Either way, the unfortunate fact remains is that both of them have spent the bulk of the 10 years or so on the bench |
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Post by rushy on Sept 10, 2024 8:48:09 GMT
That was a real test for your first cap under the conditions, no sign of nerves or hesitancy, have to say he coped very well.
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Post by garynysmon on Sept 10, 2024 9:26:03 GMT
He may not be playing regularly either, but he's a better keeper than Ward in all honesty.
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