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Post by robin1864 on Oct 24, 2019 13:23:52 GMT
I do think people are being a bit pessimistic about Roberts though. He played really well for Leeds before his injury, and was one of the first off the bench for us regularly. His versatility means he's almost a certainty to make the squad. Vokes vs Bradshaw is another question entirely though, and tbh I'm leaning towards Bradshaw at this point in time. All in all though I think Vokes will still go along as well as Bradshaw, for the squad morale rather than anything else. I'd like to see Roberts as our main striker in a few years time, he's fast and can finish well which is something we've lacked since Bellamy retired, but Bradshaw is scoring goals and I think it would help the cohesion of that future team better if they played together in the U21's and gelled first. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 24, 2019 14:29:51 GMT
Roberts doesn't strike me a natural number 9 unfortunately and seems to be developing away from that role as he matures.
Bradshaw on the other hand is steadily improving as a striker and could play a part if given a chance. |
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Post by richierich333 on Oct 24, 2019 19:02:10 GMT
Roberts doesn't strike me a natural number 9 unfortunately and seems to be developing away from that role as he matures.
Bradshaw on the other hand is steadily improving as a striker and could play a part if given a chance. He's not a 9 and we've tried him there it didn't work. I know some don't like him but Moore is our only viable 9 and has been a breath of fresh air to be honest. He needs to start. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 14, 2019 15:29:38 GMT
GÔÔÔÔÔL BRADSHAW
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Post by cadno on Dec 15, 2019 10:21:02 GMT
7th goal of the season.
Class finish too.
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Post by welshiron on Dec 15, 2019 10:32:35 GMT
First goal in 7 games I think
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Post by cadno on Dec 15, 2019 10:50:11 GMT
And he's still got more than any other Welsh player in the Championship :-)
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Post by welshiron on Dec 15, 2019 12:08:38 GMT
And he's still got more than any other Welsh player in the Championship :-) 1st goal in 7. You said on another thread put Bradshaw on the pitch and he will score. Total bollox. |
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Post by cadno on Dec 15, 2019 12:29:20 GMT
And he's still got more than any other Welsh player in the Championship :-) 1st goal in 7. You said on another thread put Bradshaw on the pitch and he will score. Total bollox. Correct  7 goals from 19 shots this season, compared to someone like Weimann who has 7 goals from 38 shots, or Ayew 7 goals 42 shots. Stats suggest that Millwall create less opportunities than at least half the other teams in the league, so Bradshaw isn't doing too badly! 176 minutes per goal. Create the opportunities and 9/10 times Bradshaw will score! |
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Post by welshiron on Dec 15, 2019 12:49:06 GMT
1st goal in 7. You said on another thread put Bradshaw on the pitch and he will score. Total bollox. Correct 7 goals from 19 shots this season, compared to someone like Weimann who has 7 goals from 38 shots, or Ayew 7 goals 42 shots. Stats suggest that Millwall create less opportunities than at least half the other teams in the league, so Bradshaw isn't doing too badly! 176 minutes per goal. Create the opportunities and 9/10 times Bradshaw will score! If he conveted 90% of chances he wouldnt be playing for Millwall. Ask yourself why no epl team or decent championship team have ever signed him. |
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Post by cadno on Dec 15, 2019 13:44:42 GMT
Correct 7 goals from 19 shots this season, compared to someone like Weimann who has 7 goals from 38 shots, or Ayew 7 goals 42 shots. Stats suggest that Millwall create less opportunities than at least half the other teams in the league, so Bradshaw isn't doing too badly! 176 minutes per goal. Create the opportunities and 9/10 times Bradshaw will score! If he conveted 90% of chances he wouldnt be playing for Millwall. Ask yourself why no epl team or decent championship team have ever signed him. He'll get 15+ goals this season! |
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Post by cadno on Dec 15, 2019 14:41:42 GMT
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Post by iot on Dec 15, 2019 15:01:50 GMT
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Post by robin1864 on Dec 15, 2019 18:00:10 GMT
Only in Wales could we have a decent out-and-out striker who's scoring goals but have fans arguing against his selection.
Really makes you wonder why we rarely get nice things.
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Post by cadno on Jan 1, 2020 14:20:07 GMT
Off the bench to get on the scoresheet again
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 4, 2020 14:16:31 GMT
...and again in the cup against Newport
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 4, 2020 14:31:09 GMT
Doesn't score frequently enough.. one-dimensional striker.. isn't 8ft tall.. insert other excuses to overlook him for Wales.. In a way I feel sorry for him that Wales is his only option, at least Chris Maxwell can play for Scotland and pull some "fuck you" performances out of the bag to spite us. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 4, 2020 15:04:16 GMT
Doesn't score frequently enough.. one-dimensional striker.. isn't 8ft tall.. insert other excuses to overlook him for Wales.. In a way I feel sorry for him that Wales is his only option, at least Chris Maxwell can play for Scotland and pull some "fuck you" performances out of the bag to spite us. I don't get why Maxwell never got more of a look in, played a lot for the youth teams, solid Football League goalkeeper but overlooked for a guitarist and now Tom King |
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Post by iot on Jan 4, 2020 16:05:01 GMT
Doesn't score frequently enough.. one-dimensional striker.. isn't 8ft tall.. insert other excuses to overlook him for Wales.. In a way I feel sorry for him that Wales is his only option, at least Chris Maxwell can play for Scotland and pull some "fuck you" performances out of the bag to spite us. I don't get why Maxwell never got more of a look in, played a lot for the youth teams, solid Football League goalkeeper but overlooked for a guitarist and now Tom King Maxwell was involved in around 5-10 squads, King has been involved in one. Presumably the coaching setup were not all that impressed with maxwell, it remains to be seen what they think of king. It's hardly a shocking omission, he played a fair bit in the championship for preston before being dropped. If Ward has only played around three times these last five years, Maxwell wouldn't have got near starting anyway, so why are people getting hung up on it? Bradshaw seems to go on goalscoring runs more than your typical striker, he'll score five goals in a month and won't score again for another couple of months. That inconsistency may be hampering his chances. But I suspect it's more to do with what we want from our CF - i.e. someone who can bring the best out of our top forwards, not just a 1 in 3 championship goalscorer. Again, Bradshaw's been in and out of the Millwall team this season so it would hardly be a major omission. |
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Post by welshiron on Feb 10, 2020 8:31:38 GMT
Gone a little quiet on Bradshaw our saviour.
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Post by cadno on Feb 10, 2020 13:34:52 GMT
Gone a little quiet on Bradshaw our saviour. Yes he seriously needs to step it up in order to get the 15+ goals I said he'll end up with 😂 |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 10, 2020 19:08:07 GMT
Gone a little quiet on Bradshaw our saviour. Yes he seriously needs to step it up in order to get the 15+ goals I said he'll end up with 😂 How many is he on now? |
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Post by cadno on Feb 10, 2020 20:36:28 GMT
Yes he seriously needs to step it up in order to get the 15+ goals I said he'll end up with 😂 How many is he on now? I think it's 8 in the championship, 9 in all competitions. I think the manager that left for Cardiff could get good performances out of him. |
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Post by iot on Feb 10, 2020 21:02:16 GMT
I think it's 8 in the championship, 9 in all competitions. I think the manager that left for Cardiff could get good performances out of him. I wouldn't bet against him getting 15, but will that be enough from 45-50 games? He'll probably go a month with no goals, then score 5 or 6 in march, and fail to score any in April/may. If you look at his record, he's always scored in fits and starts. Not good enough for me |
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Post by cadno on Feb 10, 2020 21:15:04 GMT
I think it's 8 in the championship, 9 in all competitions. I think the manager that left for Cardiff could get good performances out of him. I wouldn't bet against him getting 15, but will that be enough from 45-50 games? He'll probably go a month with no goals, then score 5 or 6 in march, and fail to score any in April/may. If you look at his record, he's always scored in fits and starts. Not good enough for me I like him, he's a good finisher. He's more like Robert Earnshaw, but our attack is built around Kieffer Moore now. If we're chasing a goal with 15 to go, I wouldn't be against lumping it up to Moore or Vokes and have Bradshaw feed off scraps. Old school, but not a terrible option! |
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Post by iot on Feb 10, 2020 22:58:05 GMT
I wouldn't bet against him getting 15, but will that be enough from 45-50 games? He'll probably go a month with no goals, then score 5 or 6 in march, and fail to score any in April/may. If you look at his record, he's always scored in fits and starts. Not good enough for me I like him, he's a good finisher. He's more like Robert Earnshaw, but our attack is built around Kieffer Moore now. If we're chasing a goal with 15 to go, I wouldn't be against lumping it up to Moore or Vokes and have Bradshaw feed off scraps. Old school, but not a terrible option! So pulling off a James or brooks to put Bradshaw up top when chasing an equaliser? No thanks, I think the Italian defense would laugh themselves silly |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 10, 2020 23:05:29 GMT
I think poacher type strikers typically perform better in teams that keep the majority of possession, create lots of chances, and generally get the ball into the box loads. Javier Hernandez was never an unbelievable striker, but because he was a poacher he would get goals for United courtesy of the fact that United would always be putting teams under pressure and therefore chances would fall to Hernandez.
I don't really think we are that team, and we certainly won't be that team at Euro 2020. Against a team like Andorra I think playing with Moore-Bradshaw would be a perfect combination as we'd be guaranteed 70% possession even with a flat 4 in midfield, and they'd be camped up having to deal with Moore in the air, and having Bradshaw sniping around for knockdowns in danger areas. Aside from games like that I can't see Bradshaw being of much use to us unfortunately. That is unless he really does hit outstanding form. I think Championship is is level though, in my opinion. Years gone by he would likely have had 20-30 caps, but I don't think that time is now.
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Post by cadno on Feb 11, 2020 8:40:34 GMT
I like him, he's a good finisher. He's more like Robert Earnshaw, but our attack is built around Kieffer Moore now. If we're chasing a goal with 15 to go, I wouldn't be against lumping it up to Moore or Vokes and have Bradshaw feed off scraps. Old school, but not a terrible option! So pulling off a James or brooks to put Bradshaw up top when chasing an equaliser? No thanks, I think the Italian defense would laugh themselves silly Yeah or Bale. He offers something different. Bradshaw ahead of Doidge, Matondo and Tyler Roberts for me. |
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Post by richierich333 on Feb 11, 2020 8:41:41 GMT
I think poacher type strikers typically perform better in teams that keep the majority of possession, create lots of chances, and generally get the ball into the box loads. Javier Hernandez was never an unbelievable striker, but because he was a poacher he would get goals for United courtesy of the fact that United would always be putting teams under pressure and therefore chances would fall to Hernandez. I don't really think we are that team, and we certainly won't be that team at Euro 2020. Against a team like Andorra I think playing with Moore-Bradshaw would be a perfect combination as we'd be guaranteed 70% possession even with a flat 4 in midfield, and they'd be camped up having to deal with Moore in the air, and having Bradshaw sniping around for knockdowns in danger areas. Aside from games like that I can't see Bradshaw being of much use to us unfortunately. That is unless he really does hit outstanding form. I think Championship is is level though, in my opinion. Years gone by he would likely have had 20-30 caps, but I don't think that time is now. This is true I cannot see where he would fit in to our system or how we would benefit from his presence in the XI as it stands. Deserves another friendly and a squad place IF we have withdrawals. |
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Post by cadno on Feb 11, 2020 8:42:42 GMT
I think poacher type strikers typically perform better in teams that keep the majority of possession, create lots of chances, and generally get the ball into the box loads. Javier Hernandez was never an unbelievable striker, but because he was a poacher he would get goals for United courtesy of the fact that United would always be putting teams under pressure and therefore chances would fall to Hernandez. I don't really think we are that team, and we certainly won't be that team at Euro 2020. Against a team like Andorra I think playing with Moore-Bradshaw would be a perfect combination as we'd be guaranteed 70% possession even with a flat 4 in midfield, and they'd be camped up having to deal with Moore in the air, and having Bradshaw sniping around for knockdowns in danger areas. Aside from games like that I can't see Bradshaw being of much use to us unfortunately. That is unless he really does hit outstanding form. I think Championship is is level though, in my opinion. Years gone by he would likely have had 20-30 caps, but I don't think that time is now. Good point! I think if he was Northern Irish he would have a few international goals to his name! |
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