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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 27, 2010 11:46:06 GMT
If all show up / potential returns from a silly *Retirement*.
Myhill (i would drop hennesey as he was at fault for a crucial goal)
RB = Rickets. ( drop gunter, he needs more games, and somethings lacking. also eardly playing ok in prem league. could be option.
CB = Williams (played good in montenegro)
CB = Gabbidon (playing well / collins needs a rest as he was also at fault for goal. To show competition we should drop players, just like england do, when the're players are at fault for goals. shows competitive squad.
LB, = Danny collins (Playing decent for a mid table prem club, holding his own, doesnt seem to make major mistakes. is a better footballer at the moment than gunter.
Left wing = Gareth bale, picks himself, class.
Right wing = Captain Bellamy, picks himself class act, fingers crossed fit.
Midfield three
Simon davies, i hope, hes only 30. fell out with Tosh behind closed doors. really improved the last year or so, and slightly heading back to his old self. we need him back.
Joe ledley / dave edwards. Both were terrible in mont i'd pick one of them however, which one do you guys think?
Id put Dave Vaugahn in a holding pembridge type role for this game, even though he needs to show more to his game, his passing is quite good, and hes a die-hard. he would need to shine in this game, and its at home.
Striker, Simon Church, Passey / lively / in the 15 mins on the pitch v montengro, he made some good runs, looked sharp / hit bar etcc...
Morrison for me, just didnt look up to it. nothing against the guy, who im sure is a good guy / player, however its all about competition for places, and church i would hope would do some sharp runs to link up with bellars and bale.
What does everyone think?
this is mearly my opinion,
others opinions would be appreciated however make them opinions not critisisms.
Cheers..
P.s lets hope we get 4 points from next 2 games,!
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Post by saints19 on Sept 27, 2010 11:51:26 GMT
GK: Hennessey
CB: Collins
CB: Williams
RB: Gunter
LB: Bale
CM: Ledley
CM: King
CM: Edwards
LM: Vaughan
RM: Bellamy
CF: Morison/Church
Still think a 4-5-1 would be our best bet. I'd bak most of the side that failed in Montenegro for one more game, then make changes for the Switzerland game if we lose again.
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 27, 2010 11:59:31 GMT
Gunter needs to sit this game out, he always runs down the wing half decentish, then fails with the final ball.
20 plus caps now, shame as when he went to spurs i thought him and bale, would have been an amazing pairing.
needless to say hes not as good as danny collins, he needs a recall.
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 27, 2010 12:04:56 GMT
So would leave Danny Gabbidon out?
who over the years has been our best defender?
when has he made major clanngers? (not just after his major injuries either).
James collins fuck ups against northern ireland home and montengro away arent good enough if we wish to get 2nd place in the group. make him fight for his place / want the shirt more.
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Post by ericyoung on Sept 27, 2010 12:34:10 GMT
GK: Myhill
CB: Gabbidon
CB: J. Collins
LB: D. Collins
RB: Ricketts
CM: King
CM: Vaughan
CM: Davies
RM: Bellamy
LM: Bale
CF: Church
Bench: Hennessy, Eardley, Gunter, Williams, Ledley, Edwards, Morison
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 27, 2010 12:41:10 GMT
Not a bad bench. Would be nice to add giggs and savage to the bench
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 13:00:40 GMT
Vaughan? Didn't we learn anything in Montenegro?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 13:12:34 GMT
Gunter needs to sit this game out, he always runs down the wing half decentish, then fails with the final ball. 20 plus caps now, shame as when he went to spurs i thought him and bale, would have been an amazing pairing. needless to say hes not as good as danny collins, he needs a recall. Gunter is twice the player Danny Collins is and three times the man. Collins will never play for Wales again. Davies has been hopless for years at international level. His return would be a backward step. Let him rest his poor feet in the international breaks. Ricketts is a liability and always has been- can't believe so few people realise this, especially following his most recent performance in Montenegro. Team should be as follows: (4-3-3) Hennessey Gunter J.Collins Ribeiro Bale King Williams Allen Bellamy Cotterill Evans |
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Post by matty on Sept 27, 2010 13:22:40 GMT
Gunter needs to sit this game out, he always runs down the wing half decentish, then fails with the final ball. 20 plus caps now, shame as when he went to spurs i thought him and bale, would have been an amazing pairing. needless to say hes not as good as danny collins, he needs a recall. Gunter is twice the player Danny Collins is and three times the man. Collins will never play for Wales again. Davies has been hopless for years at international level. His return would be a backward step. Let him rest his poor feet in the international breaks. Ricketts is a liability and always has been- can't believe so few people realise this, especially following his most recent performance in Montenegro. Team should be as follows: (4-3-3) Hennessey Gunter J.Collins Ribeiro Bale King Williams Allen Bellamy Cotterill Evans How about "I think the team should be....", or "in my opinion....is a liability". You come across as very arrogant, argumentative and quite frankly pompous. This is a place to express opinions, yours is no better than the next. And leading on from that...."in my opinion" the team should be:  Myhill Gunter Collins Williams Ricketts Cotterill Allen King Blake Bale Morison |
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 27, 2010 13:22:49 GMT
Vaughan is at least playing premier league football,
if gunnter is twice the player danny collins is? howcome he failed at premier league level?, and danny collins hasnt? gunnter is not ready yet. hes over rated.
Davies is a very good player and needs to be in the team.
your picking children over expereinced players...
allen? hes in the championship and isnt ready.. king seems decent.
williams midfeild are you on drugs?
cotteril up front ? yet another failed prem player.
evans? cant hit the goal if you made it 20 yards wide at the moment.
wake up and smell the coffee
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 13:56:16 GMT
Matty: Go change your tampon. Vaughan is at least playing premier league football, if gunnter is twice the player danny collins is? howcome he failed at premier league level?, and danny collins hasnt? gunnter is not ready yet. hes over rated. Davies is a very good player and needs to be in the team. your picking children over expereinced players... allen? hes in the championship and isnt ready.. king seems decent. williams midfeild are you on drugs? cotteril up front ? yet another failed prem player. evans? cant hit the goal if you made it 20 yards wide at the moment. wake up and smell the coffee Davies is not a good player for Wales and hasn't been for years. - Perhaps you should try some of that coffee you reccomended. Allen is in the Championship (barely relevant) and is ready by virtue of the fact he is far better than the alternatives. He is certainly infinitely better than David Vaughan. I just knew that Blackpool's promotion would be the worst thing to happen to Welsh football- 3 of our least talented players elevated to the most overrated league in the planet, invariably meaning the army of Murdoch zombies will assume that this now makes them better than infinitely more gifted players playing anywhere else. Williams in midfield? What, you mean the position he played where he has produced his best performances in a Wales shirt? Yes- in midfield. Partially because he can't mark, but also he has the power and distribution to protect the back four. And since there are NO OTHER DEFENSIVE MIDFIELD PLAYERS, that makes him the least worst option for that position. The players I have chosen are not "children"- they are young, and product of the youth-system we have spent nearly 6 years developing and should now take advantage of. "Experience" is useless if you don't learn anything from it, and it has plainly taught you nothing- the last 6 years have demonstrated that at international level Ledley, Vaughan and Edwards do not possess the ability required to enable Wales to challenge for qualification- so we either look elsewhere or give up- which would you prefer? As for puerile comments about Gunter and Cotterill being "failed Premiership players" I will answer in just two words: BAD MANAGEMENT. You can fill in the details for yourself. Finally, Ched Evans has scored 2 goals so far this season- which is more than Simon Church, the player you selected. It is also half the current number of league goals scored by his club whose manager has admitted the team possess NO creativity. Might I recommend you switch to tea? |
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Post by welshiron on Sept 27, 2010 14:02:49 GMT
The team for me would be
Hennasey
Gunter
Williams
Collins
Gabbidon (LB)
Davies (RM)
Bale (LM)
Ledley
King
Edwards
Morrison
I am assuming Bellers won't be fit and wouldn't pick Danny Collins above myself (little twat that he is)
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Post by muaythai on Sept 27, 2010 14:17:11 GMT
do u think davies will be back then mate?
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Post by matty on Sept 27, 2010 14:31:05 GMT
Matty: Go change your tampon. NO OTHER DEFENSIVE MIDFIELD PLAYERS, that makes him the least worst option for that position. Up your own arse is the term that springs to mind. You could run a government with your attitude problem. And no other defensive midfield players? Look no further than Darcy James Blake. |
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 27, 2010 14:34:28 GMT
might i recomend to stop bitting like a salmon you spanner!
do one
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 27, 2010 14:41:58 GMT
Bellamyforever, I was interested until you said to have Savage on the bench then lost all credability. Even Derby fans think his legs have gone this year.
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 27, 2010 14:43:42 GMT
maybe sav was a step to far, i still would like a big squad.
as the morale is low , and people like him at least could tell the youngsters to breath some fire, there was no spirit in montenegro.,
shame.
and there are some total bellends who come on here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 14:59:56 GMT
might i recomend to stop bitting like a salmon you spanner! do one A spanner can't bite like a salmon. It would sink. |
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 27, 2010 15:02:09 GMT
yawn
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 15:07:16 GMT
I'd ask for your money back on that coffee if I were you. Loved the inclusion of Sav, however. It's good to have a bit of a giggle. |
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