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Post by muaythai on Sept 27, 2010 13:52:37 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Sept 27, 2010 13:58:36 GMT
Dave jones has never and will never try and help Wales, I bet some posters will blame Toshack for this as well.
He will not play Bellamy before the internationals to try and make a case for him not playing in the 2 games.
Hopefully craig will decide himself as he has in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 13:59:22 GMT
the welsh doctors will decide that flynn needs to put his foot down and demand everyone turns up!
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Post by muaythai on Sept 27, 2010 14:00:46 GMT
Dave jones has never and will never try and help Wales, I bet some posters will blame Toshack for this as well. He will not play Bellamy before the internationals to try and make a case for him not playing in the 2 games. Hopefully craig will decide himself as he has in the past. i read another article which says if bellars wants to play jones wont stand a chance because bigger and better managers have tried to stop him in the past playing for wales and failed. |
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Post by matty on Sept 27, 2010 14:35:06 GMT
Be realistic. He's missed 4 games on the bounce, unlikely to play tomorrow, same on Saturday....that'll be 6 games prior to Bulgaria he's missed, then to be selected for Wales? Unfortunately it doesn't look like he'll be fit, but it'll be the Welsh doctors that come to that decision, nobody else. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 27, 2010 14:38:02 GMT
I think he'll play at CCS but not travel to Switzerland.
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Post by muaythai on Sept 27, 2010 14:40:33 GMT
be better off using him away for the counter attacking football against the swiss
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 27, 2010 14:43:18 GMT
I agree, but I'm sure CCFC would prefer him to play in Cardiff than away.
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 27, 2010 14:56:05 GMT
i tend to agree that if hes only going to play one game, then get him and bale counter attacking in switzerland,
we could afford to draw with bulgaria, and beat swiss,
if 4 points was guranteed id prefer this option
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Post by muaythai on Sept 27, 2010 15:21:24 GMT
i gotta feeling we will be without bale and bellamy, ive got really bad vibes about the next squad i think theres gonna be a few drop outs after the media about redknapp wantin bale not to play etc
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Post by rhysage on Sept 27, 2010 15:22:16 GMT
At the end of the day, the FAW doctors have the final say, they all have to release the players to come to the camp. It's about time the FAW showed some balls and enforced this.
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Post by raptor on Sept 27, 2010 16:27:05 GMT
This is a bigger issue than just Bulgaria and Switzerland. If that w*nker Jones can get away with stopping Bellars playing when fit then we might as well just give up.
I trust Bellamy though, he's only only had one blip so far for us, whilst at Man City with that other w*nker Mark Hughes.
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Post by Tim P on Sept 27, 2010 16:31:52 GMT
if bellamy does not play it will be for one reason alone: craig bellamy doesn't think craig bellamy is fit.
no manager on earth, and they've all tried, can stop bellamy playing for Wales.
complete non-story.
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Post by raptor on Sept 27, 2010 16:34:17 GMT
Prob right. Bellars may be a bit of a nob but he's extremely patriotic.
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Post by saints19 on Sept 27, 2010 16:45:41 GMT
I trust Bellamy but really hope Jones doesn't manage to convince him not to turn up. Bellamy, left to his own devices, would always choose to turn up but I wouldn't put it past Jones to persuade him out of it.
Flynn should make clear that it is our right to demand to be able to assess Bellamy ourselves, and Jones has no right to make such comments.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 17:32:36 GMT
Cant see anyone stopping bellars if he wants to play!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2010 22:14:47 GMT
Have you read the comments by those Cardiff supporting tarts? Fair enough they are after success for Cardiff but the sheer disdain in which they talk about their national team is shocking. Is that the prevalent attitude amongst the majority of Cardiff and Swans fans? Talking about us like we are a joke? No wonder crowds are non-existant, not only are these people not interested, they are also against international football.
I would like to see Bellamy play against Switzerland, we should have the tools to beat Bulgaria without him, but we would need him against Switzerland to stand a chance of a result.
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Post by walrus on Sept 28, 2010 0:40:56 GMT
I must protest against the use of tosser and wanker on this board. These people have families too. They might be reading these comments. If these words are to be used then perhaps consider saving them for comments about Mr Savage who is lower than the devils buttocks when it comes to disrespecting the welsh badge.
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 28, 2010 6:45:38 GMT
Have you read the comments by those Cardiff supporting tarts? Fair enough they are after success for Cardiff but the sheer disdain in which they talk about their national team is shocking. Is that the prevalent attitude amongst the majority of Cardiff and Swans fans? Talking about us like we are a joke? No wonder crowds are non-existant, not only are these people not interested, they are also against international football. I would like to see Bellamy play against Switzerland, we should have the tools to beat Bulgaria without him, but we would need him against Switzerland to stand a chance of a result. I would not say it's the view of the majority of Cardiff fans. The majority of Wales fans who travel are Cardiff fans. Swansea fans I can't comment about because they are such a rare species at Wales games anyway. |
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Post by 1870magpie on Sept 28, 2010 18:13:17 GMT
Agreed Jones is a tosser!!! Bellamy came out with a comment the other day stating that as far as he's concerened Cardiff is Wales....sais it all!! He can barely sing the national anthem, as he probably doesn't even know all the words?! Not that is uncomon amongst the squad!! Awesome player on-song, but is he too much of a 'star' for our squad anyway? Would we be better off without him, in terms of team spirit?  I agree that the majority of fans going to the wales away games are from cardiff, although i know there are plenty of fans from swansea,west wales and north wales who follow regularly...... |
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 29, 2010 7:31:18 GMT
DAVE JONES? WHO THS FUCK IS DAVE JONES, TOTAL TWAT SAW HIM LAST NIGHT ON SKY SPORTSN EWS GIVING A PRE-MATCH INTERVIEW, AND HE SAID... BELLAMY COULD BE FIT FOR BARNSLEY, BUT RULED OUT FOR WALES A FUCKIGN WEEK LATER? DAVE JONES IS A CUNT I HOPE CARDIFF FINISH 7TH  ALSORANS. IF BELLAMY IS NOT EVEN IN THE SQUAD, I.E FOR SWITZERLAND AWAY, THEN I THINK HE SHOULD CALL IT A DAY. |
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Post by saints19 on Sept 29, 2010 9:38:07 GMT
I must protest against the use of tosser and wanker on this board. These people have families too. They might be reading these comments. If these words are to be used then perhaps consider saving them for comments about Mr Savage who is lower than the devils buttocks when it comes to disrespecting the welsh badge. Dave Jones puts himself in the public eye with his job and accepts it as part and parcel. If he didn't want to run the risk of being labelled a tosser by someone on a message board, then he would have declined to make the comments about Bellamy and Matthews that have disaffected some Wales fans lately. Use of 'tosser' is justified after what he's said in my opinion. |
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