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Post by dai on Apr 8, 2022 20:44:19 GMT
Decent performance again, thought we were the better team in the second half and had a few good attacks. Felt like we deserved a draw on the whole, but just lack that cutting edge and natural goal scorers. Lots of the younger players played well.
To be able to compete with the 3rd ranked team in the world shows the women's team have come a long, long way.
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Post by iot on Apr 8, 2022 20:48:11 GMT
Decent performance again, thought we were the better team in the second half and had a few good attacks. Felt like we deserved a draw on the whole, but just lack that cutting edge and natural goal scorers. Lots of the younger players played well. To be able to compete with the 3rd ranked team in the world shows the women's team have come a long, long way. Just a shame the two goals we conceded were so poor. On the balance of chances created, the score is probably a fair result, but we should never have conceded those goals. We did well to create so many chances, but just let down by too many avoidable errors.
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Post by quetzal on Apr 8, 2022 23:38:15 GMT
Decent performance again, thought we were the better team in the second half and had a few good attacks. Felt like we deserved a draw on the whole, but just lack that cutting edge and natural goal scorers. Lots of the younger players played well. To be able to compete with the 3rd ranked team in the world shows the women's team have come a long, long way. Just a shame the two goals we conceded were so poor. On the balance of chances created, the score is probably a fair result, but we should never have conceded those goals. We did well to create so many chances, but just let down by too many avoidable errors. 2-1 loss to France. French #3 in world. Wales giving away bad goals fair enough but the one we scored what were the French up too? They’d feel it was poor defending. Wales need to get 2nd in the group
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Post by aberbeeg on Apr 9, 2022 6:26:36 GMT
Guess your happy with the quality of both goals conceded?
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Post by iot on Apr 9, 2022 7:05:31 GMT
Just a shame the two goals we conceded were so poor. On the balance of chances created, the score is probably a fair result, but we should never have conceded those goals. We did well to create so many chances, but just let down by too many avoidable errors. 2-1 loss to France. French #3 in world. Wales giving away bad goals fair enough but the one we scored what were the French up too? They’d feel it was poor defending. Wales need to get 2nd in the group All three goals were terrible ones to concede but both sides had other chances that they should have put away. Particularly disappointed with the one Fishlock sliced on her left foot in the first half as she has the quality to easily put that one away. Could have even taken a touch and finish with her right foot, but she seemed to lose a bit of composure
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Post by hooky on Apr 9, 2022 8:52:41 GMT
Unfortunately our goalkeeper always has a mistake in her. She nearly let a second slip through her fingers too and used to be extremely poor at corners too.
I think women’s football has seen a massive technical improvement in recent years across the better teams but goalkeeping remains the one area where there remains scope for substantially more improvement.
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Post by aberbeeg on Apr 9, 2022 14:14:26 GMT
Spot on,our goalkeeper was terrible and the one that actually flew straight through her hands was just very very basic goalkeeping.
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Post by evans1282 on Apr 9, 2022 15:04:40 GMT
Is it me or does anyone else think it’s like watching an under 11s match? Goalposts too big for goalkeepers , mistakes that are so basic it’s embarrassing etc It's you , arsehole comment actually
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 10, 2022 15:00:40 GMT
Is it me or does anyone else think it’s like watching an under 11s match? Goalposts too big for goalkeepers , mistakes that are so basic it’s embarrassing etc You would never say this about male keepers who make equally poor errors
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Post by welshrover on Apr 12, 2022 16:13:06 GMT
Won 3-0 today.
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Post by rangers15 on Apr 12, 2022 16:28:37 GMT
need France to see off Slovenia this evening now
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Post by dai on Apr 12, 2022 16:31:55 GMT
Caught some of the game today, played very well, but we should have put more than 3 on them! Hope that doesn't come back to bite us if it comes down to goal difference, and Kazakhstan don't finish bottom.
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Post by quetzal on Apr 12, 2022 16:44:13 GMT
need France to see off Slovenia this evening now Yes 👍🏻 Hopefully a 9-0 job
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Post by quetzal on Apr 12, 2022 19:20:15 GMT
Cymru in trouble. France losing
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Post by quetzal on Apr 12, 2022 19:21:21 GMT
Cymru in trouble. France losing *edit. Still 0-0
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Post by bringbackelmo on Apr 13, 2022 9:51:48 GMT
Results just about going our way but looks like it'll be a tough one v Slovenia coming up.
O'Sullivan (I'm not sure why you're all incapable of using her actual name?) was pretty shocking the other night. The second goal in particular was pretty unforgivable.
Female keepers will always play differently to men because they don't typically have the height and more importantly the reach that men do. So a direct comparison is unfair.
But they should still be open to criticism, her mistakes in the France game were poor and it wasn't the first time she has arguably cost us points. It'd be nice to see someone else get a chance if it continues.
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Post by aberbeeg on Apr 13, 2022 9:52:39 GMT
Finished 1-0
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Post by aberbeeg on Apr 13, 2022 9:54:12 GMT
Results just about going our way but looks like it'll be a tough one v Slovenia coming up. O'Sullivan (I'm not sure why you're all incapable of using her actual name?) was pretty shocking the other night. The second goal in particular was pretty unforgivable. Female keepers will always play differently to men because they don't typically have the height and more importantly the reach that men do. So a direct comparison is unfair. But they should still be open to criticism, her mistakes in the France game were poor and it wasn't the first time she has arguably cost us points. It'd be nice to see someone else get a chance if it continues. To say she was poor is a bit of an understatement tbh.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 14, 2022 9:17:25 GMT
Gender bias brilliantly highlighted through this remark
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 14, 2022 16:56:05 GMT
Results just about going our way but looks like it'll be a tough one v Slovenia coming up. O'Sullivan (I'm not sure why you're all incapable of using her actual name?) was pretty shocking the other night. The second goal in particular was pretty unforgivable. Female keepers will always play differently to men because they don't typically have the height and more importantly the reach that men do. So a direct comparison is unfair. But they should still be open to criticism, her mistakes in the France game were poor and it wasn't the first time she has arguably cost us points. It'd be nice to see someone else get a chance if it continues. Smaller goals. It's absolutely ridiculous that this still hasn't been put in place, women are naturally smaller than men, that's not a sly dig at women or anything, it's scientific fact. With that should come smaller goals to benefit the female keepers that can't reach the angles that the male keepers can.
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Post by redsaint on Apr 15, 2022 20:24:10 GMT
Results just about going our way but looks like it'll be a tough one v Slovenia coming up. O'Sullivan (I'm not sure why you're all incapable of using her actual name?) was pretty shocking the other night. The second goal in particular was pretty unforgivable. Female keepers will always play differently to men because they don't typically have the height and more importantly the reach that men do. So a direct comparison is unfair. But they should still be open to criticism, her mistakes in the France game were poor and it wasn't the first time she has arguably cost us points. It'd be nice to see someone else get a chance if it continues. Smaller goals. It's absolutely ridiculous that this still hasn't been put in place, women are naturally smaller than men, that's not a sly dig at women or anything, it's scientific fact. With that should come smaller goals to benefit the female keepers that can't reach the angles that the male keepers can. Smaller goals are a good shout actually. Women’s teams are getting better every year and with greater participation and investment but there’s currently a physical deficit where goalkeepers don’t have the same size or agility as the male equivalents and I think it needs something to level it like you say. I guess there’s practical difficulties though when it comes to public pitches all over the country. Not easy to have more sets of goals available.
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Post by rhys on Jul 6, 2022 17:44:11 GMT
I hope you’ve all got your tickets.
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Post by jimbo82 on Jul 6, 2022 20:16:17 GMT
Just realised that if we'd managed to score one more goal against Northern Ireland in qualifying, we'd have been in a playoff against..... Ukraine!
And if we'd won that we'd be in NI's slot in England's group. Playing tomorrow at Southampton.
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Post by insertname on Aug 1, 2022 8:37:23 GMT
So this is what it feels like when England win something in football. It’s in no way comparable to the men winning anything but dear God it’s trying to be.
There’s no acknowledgement of the differing challenges between men’s and women’s football, especially at England’s level. There are only about 5 or 6 good teams in women’s football and then the quality drops off a cliff. You don’t have a chasing pack of dark horses who pull off upsets like you get in men’s football. In fact I don’t think there was one upset in the whole tournament. The big teams won and then knocked each other out until England, one of the best resourced teams in the competition won. Big bloody deal. And now they think their success is more valid than the men’s team’s
As for the reaction from Wales- I get the vibe that some people put gender above nationality. A win for England women in football is going to lead to more Welsh women becoming CEO’s or something. I don’t really get the link the BBC is trying to make between England women winning a cup and a seismic change for women in British society.
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Post by rico on Aug 1, 2022 9:00:47 GMT
Record crowd, massive engagement - just have to look at TV figures alone. More funding and support for womens game can only be a good thing and even if its uncomfortable to acknowledge for some, England's success will have a knock on positive effect for the Welsh setup, definately at international level. Slovenia game will likely break another attendance record.
It's a seismic shift in society because it's a sport which has been laughed at / ridiculed every step of the way by a lot of people, purely because of the gender of the people playing it - it's seen millions taking it seriously and seeing beyond the players sex. Societal sexism exists everywhere not just in football, any steps towards combatting the issue helps. Playing down the significance of it benefits nobody.
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Post by bobbyghoul on Aug 1, 2022 9:10:17 GMT
Record crowd, massive engagement - just have to look at TV figures alone. More funding and support for womens game can only be a good thing and even if its uncomfortable to acknowledge for some, England's success will have a knock on positive effect for the Welsh setup, definately at international level. Slovenia game will likely break another attendance record. It's a seismic shift in society because it's a sport which has been laughed at / ridiculed every step of the way by a lot of people, purely because of the gender of the people playing it - it's seen millions taking it seriously and seeing beyond the players sex. Societal sexism exists everywhere not just in football, any steps towards combatting the issue helps. Playing down the significance of it benefits nobody. I welcome anything that increases women's participation and engagement in football in Wales. I think it's sad that it takes an England win to drive it.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Aug 1, 2022 9:31:31 GMT
I think it was getting that way regardless of England winning this tournament, the attendances were already record breaking in this tournament before England got to the later stages, and we've seen recently all the record breaking crowds in all sorts of competitions from the WSL, to Barcelona in the Champions League, Newcastle relatively recently and Wales.
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 1, 2022 9:45:50 GMT
Time to pack out the CCS in September. I'll be there.
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Post by insertname on Aug 1, 2022 10:09:29 GMT
Record crowd, massive engagement - just have to look at TV figures alone. More funding and support for womens game can only be a good thing and even if its uncomfortable to acknowledge for some, England's success will have a knock on positive effect for the Welsh setup, definately at international level. Slovenia game will likely break another attendance record. It's a seismic shift in society because it's a sport which has been laughed at / ridiculed every step of the way by a lot of people, purely because of the gender of the people playing it - it's seen millions taking it seriously and seeing beyond the players sex. Societal sexism exists everywhere not just in football, any steps towards combatting the issue helps. Playing down the significance of it benefits nobody. I have no issue with the game being grown as long as it’s being done without insulting people’s intelligence, but the BBC can’t seem to be trusted to do that, hence comparisons with men’s football and being clever with their headlines (eg they trumpeted about 90,000 sell out for Barcelona but when you read the small print 50,000 tickets were given away free). That’s only going to lead to more ridicule and we are seeing as much today.
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Post by insertname on Aug 1, 2022 10:14:37 GMT
I think it was getting that way regardless of England winning this tournament, the attendances were already record breaking in this tournament before England got to the later stages, and we've seen recently all the record breaking crowds in all sorts of competitions from the WSL, to Barcelona in the Champions League, Newcastle relatively recently and Wales. Those crowds are being fuelled by free and cheap tickets- 50,000 in Barcelona’s case. Getting people to attend for a token amount is seemingly not difficult but if women want to paid the same as men and for the game to really get the investment that it needs to make European competition more competitive will people be willing to pay the sort of ticket prices seen in the men’s game? That’s going to be the real acid test of the product.
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