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Post by iot on Jan 9, 2021 21:39:04 GMT
Forgotten man Maxwell the hero saving 3 pens in the shoot out as Blackpool dump West Brom out of the cup. Still can’t work out why he wasn’t in the last squad with Hennessey and Davies out. Presumably because he expressed interest in representing Scotland? |
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Post by robwrecsam on Jan 10, 2021 20:59:05 GMT
Was a good keeper when he was at Wrexham in his youth, but always thought his height would hold him back from being a top keeper.
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Post by gimli on May 5, 2021 12:35:44 GMT
Golden Glove for League One this season.
Very strange that he's never really been given a chance with Wales. Especially over King who isn't even a regular at League Two level.
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Post by dvk on May 5, 2021 12:55:33 GMT
Agreed. This is strange as we’ve never had an explanation and it was particularly surprising when King and OFW were called up ahead of him earlier this season. Is it about the Scottish rumour when he was with Hibernian ? Has he made himself unavailable for Wales ? Did he have enough travelling to China, USA etc without the hope of a game ? A fallout with Giggs ? By his own admission he has sometimes been ‘acerbic’ in the past but he was made captain at Blackpool because of his leadership skills and recently manager Critchley spoke highly of him as “a goalkeeper, captain and man”. In a year when he has played more games than all the main contenders put together with 50% clean sheets it’s strange he seems to be overlooked
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Post by paj on May 5, 2021 21:38:22 GMT
Clearly should be in squad on merit.
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Post by dragonsoccer on May 5, 2021 21:58:23 GMT
He will be playing in the play offs, so doubt he will make the EFL camp on the 19th
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Post by CrackityJones on May 30, 2021 15:57:43 GMT
He’ll be in the championship next year, Blackpool have won the play off final
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Post by robin1864 on May 31, 2021 10:18:33 GMT
Shambles how he's become Welsh football's forgotten man. He's had more clean sheets than Hennessey, Davies and Ward have had appearances.
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 31, 2021 13:54:22 GMT
Do we know if he's been outcast by us, or if he's wanted to keep his options open for a Scotland call up?
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Post by dvk on Jun 5, 2021 6:20:14 GMT
Nothing against our three Euros goalkeepers but as many on other threads are questioning the selection of several players who do not play regularly for their clubs, I just wonder as to our monitoring of players throughout the season.
Maxwell 43 league games (Ward 0, Hennessy 0, Davies 17, King 9)
L1 Golden Glove Award (21 clean sheets)
Captained Blackpool to promotion
PFA League 1 Team of the Year
Blackpool Player of the Year
Blackpool Sponsors Player of the Year
PFA player in the Community Award
I’m not suggesting Maxwell should be our Number 1 ( I’m a big Wayne fan and impressed with Danny against France) but without a reason for his omission, especially with his being overlooked earlier this season in favour of King/OFW, I do wonder whether our squad choices are too entrenched and often made on non footballing criteria ?
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Post by spiritof16 on Jun 5, 2021 6:53:20 GMT
He’s unlucky not have had many games for Wales so far and maybe his time will come. But the question for who should be in the squad should not be who’s had the better season it should be who is the better goalkeeper. Danny Ward was bought by Liverpool, played a great season on loan in the championship, and then was bought by another top premier league side for £10 million (iirc).
Wayne has spent pretty much his entire career at premier league clubs and has nearly 100 caps for Wales and Adam Davies has already matched Maxwell in league 1 (promoted twice I think) and also got a move to one of the bigger championship teams. There are goalkeeper experts that watch these players in training and reserve games etc, and whether they are playing regularly or not, their level of ability has obviously been seen hence the level of clubs they are at.
Maybe this example is extreme, but say Ramsey hadn’t played much this season, would people be calling for Vaulks to be in the squad instead because he played a great season at a lower level? No, because we know Ramsey is a far superior player. The same logic can be applied to the Ward, Hennessy and Davies.
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Post by talyfan on Jun 5, 2021 7:16:32 GMT
To echo spiritof16 If taking the run up to the immediate EUROS. He'd only be third choice, very unlikely to be relied upon. He's also had very little involvement in previous camps and qualfiiers for this tournament buildup. We don't need to rock the boat if the squad is already setttled. The next cycle, definitely should be in contention. Yes, we can argue players should be their on merit and form but again I'd argue the three ahead of him albeit featured in patches due to injury (Davies) and other didn't play much at all (Hennesey and Ward), it's not as if they were able to get first team minutes for their respective sides. It's a bit different for goalkeepers. In Hennesey and Ward's case they just had better goalkeepers ahead of them. Unfortunately for goalkeepers they don't have a second position unlike a winger for instance where a player might tradiotnally play out on the left, they could get the odd game on the right hand side or elsehwere. Also, they aren't very often rotated unless there is an injury which will sideline your first choice keeper. |
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Post by dvk on Jun 5, 2021 7:57:04 GMT
Two well argued posts which I generally agree with. Certainly Adam Davies would have been rightly disappointed to be omitted from the squad following injury as he was ahead of Ward when Hennessy got injured against Bulgaria.. There’s much to be said for showing loyalty to players featuring in previous squads in the build up to major tournaments. What I don’t understand is why King/OFW we’re called up earlier in the season ahead of Maxwell and wonder whether there’s an issue with Maxwell in the eyes of Wales management ? Would just like to know ! Similarly with other positions is it easier to remain in the squad based on past involvement/form rather than current form/ merit. That would be worrying.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Jun 5, 2021 11:48:36 GMT
I'm fine with Adam Davies in ahead of him.
I'd echo that I can't really understand why Tom King's seen as the fourth choice. Chris Maxwell's playing at a higher level, more regularly, at a higher standard. He should be playing regularly next season in the Championship, and if Tom King isn't a regular at League 2 then hopefully that will change.
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Post by caeboy on Aug 14, 2021 16:40:05 GMT
Maxwell the only Welsh keeper to start in the top 2 divisions.
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Post by robin1864 on Aug 14, 2021 18:54:21 GMT
Maxwell the only Welsh keeper to start in the top 2 divisions. Weird, isn't it? |
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Post by dvk on Aug 21, 2021 20:59:28 GMT
A good start in the Championship after an excellent captains role in Blackpool’s promotion year in League 1 last year. Another positive performance against Bournemouth today. Surely must be included as Number 3 (or2) in the next squad or it will seem that sitting on the bench not making mistakes has priority over consistent performances week in week out ?
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Post by talyfan on Aug 22, 2021 7:19:48 GMT
Should be out of principle at the very least.
Page mentioned that lads getting game time was vital during his post match interview against the Danes.
Goalkeeper is a different position to most as you don't get rotated often or able to play in a different position but at the same time the message should be to prioritise those playing regularly
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Post by robin1864 on Aug 27, 2021 18:07:15 GMT
He should be getting opportunities for us on merit alone, he's the only Welsh keeper who's a nailed-on starter.
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Post by insertname on Aug 28, 2021 12:05:08 GMT
Should be out of principle at the very least. Page mentioned that lads getting game time was vital during his post match interview against the Danes. Goalkeeper is a different position to most as you don't get rotated often or able to play in a different position but at the same time the message should be to prioritise those playing regularly Page says stuff that he thinks sounds good. If we judge him by his actions then the latest squad is basically a continuation of the Euros one. I could imagine picking Colwill as an extra man as we had a bigger quota for the finals and to give some experience etc but he didn’t play a minute and most likely won’t play much this time around so why bother ahead of Lawrence? It looks like a return to the closed shop Coleman presided over, where the managers favourites will always have a place if they are fit over players playing first team football at a decent standard. Say what you like about Giggs, he was never afraid to bring new names in to have a look at and as such his squads were never predictable and to me that’s a very good hallmark of an international manager. We should have broader horizons than the same old faces come rain or shine. |
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Post by dai on Aug 28, 2021 12:10:04 GMT
Should be out of principle at the very least. Page mentioned that lads getting game time was vital during his post match interview against the Danes. Goalkeeper is a different position to most as you don't get rotated often or able to play in a different position but at the same time the message should be to prioritise those playing regularly Page says stuff that he thinks sounds good. If we judge him by his actions then the latest squad is basically a continuation of the Euros one. I could imagine picking Colwill as an extra man as we had a bigger quota for the finals and to give some experience etc but he didn’t play a minute and most likely won’t play much this time around so why bother ahead of Lawrence? It looks like a return to the closed shop Coleman presided over, where the managers favourites will always have a place if they are fit over players playing first team football at a decent standard.Say what you like about Giggs, he was never afraid to bring new names in to have a look at and as such his squads were never predictable and to me that’s a very good hallmark of an international manager. We should have broader horizons than the same old faces come rain or shine. Mentioned this before myself. It will be interesting to see who plays in the upcoming games. Matt Smith and Joe Allen are the only regular playing midfielders, yet I have no doubt we'll see Ampadu or Morrell starting in the qualifier. I like Morrell, but who should no way in hell be a guaranteed starter now, which by looking at Page's decisions, almost certainly is. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 28, 2021 10:52:27 GMT
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Post by gimli on Sept 28, 2021 10:57:02 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 28, 2021 11:00:58 GMT
Very strange, but yes there is next to no chance of him getting a call-up with the current setup.
The same man who sacrificed his starting spot at Wrexham back in 2011 to play for the Welsh youth setup.
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Post by talyfan on Oct 5, 2022 14:55:50 GMT
Back in the fold for Blackpool, started last two games.
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Post by talyfan on Nov 29, 2022 21:39:29 GMT
Get him involved
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 27, 2023 20:18:42 GMT
I'm no stats whizz but this seems to suggest Maxwell is a good Championship keeper, worth another shot?
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Post by captainhaddock on Feb 27, 2023 20:35:00 GMT
Forgotten man Maxwell the hero saving 3 pens in the shoot out as Blackpool dump West Brom out of the cup. Still can’t work out why he wasn’t in the last squad with Hennessey and Davies out. Presumably because he expressed interest in representing Scotland? not heard that before, he has been in previous welsh squads |
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Post by talyfan on Feb 27, 2023 21:37:50 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 27, 2023 21:43:58 GMT
I think with Maxwell the issue is - is he willing to come along and be 3rd choice for a bit, and then be 2nd choice after Hennessey retires?
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