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Post by bostoniandragon on Jun 28, 2016 4:42:38 GMT
My understanding was each tier wasn't cumulative. Like the team has earned 12.5M, 8M for being there, 2M for winning group games, and 2.5M for reaching the quarters. That would be changed to 4M if they won and reached the semi but not just adding 4M. |
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Post by readingfcwelshman on Jun 28, 2016 9:33:45 GMT
I'm not sure - checking the prize money section on the Wikipedia page for the tournament suggests that it is cumulative. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016#Prize_money reckons the highest possible prize would be 27 million, which you can only reach by adding all the tiers together. |
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Post by majorraglan on Jun 28, 2016 12:40:00 GMT
In comparison to what is up for grabs in the Premier League the prize money is "modest", but it's not bad for a short tournament. The prize money on offer is tiered and a big chunk will end up in the players back pocket, but there will still be enough for the FAW to invest and develop the game in Wales. For a long time, media exposure of international football in Wales has always been second to rugby, that is starting to change but I don't think we have fully emerged from the shadow of rugby yet. If we can give a really strong performance on Friday and get a result, then media exposure and interest will go up a few notches again, we become more attractive commercially that will draw in more supporters, sponsors etc which means we can further develop the grass roots. There is an interesting article on this forum regarding the Icelandic Model, I don't think we will ever achieve what they have that but the FAW should look at how we can further improve the way we develop young children.It's really important that we have a strong vibrant club scene, a few years ago Cardiff City were turning out some really good young players, that rich vein of talent seems to have dried up, Swansea City have produced a couple of good young players and have recently invested heavily in their academy, we need both of these clubs to turn out more Allens, Ledleys, Ramsey's and Bales which will make the national team stronger. We also need the tiers under them producing high quality products which strengthens the national team. I would like to see Wrexham back in the league and Cardiff City and Swansea City working with Wrexham and Newport to ensure they achieve/maintain football league status. Schools program is a very good idea, my wife's school previously participated in it, but the interest was limited in what was a predominantly rugby orientated environment. Prize money info as per link. Cmon Wales. www.sportslivekick.com/euro-2016/uefa-euro-prize-money-winner |
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Post by northerndragon on Jun 28, 2016 12:58:04 GMT
I'm not sure this has been mentioned but one huge impact of this tournament is the amount of Welsh fans who used to follow England's progress in tournaments, now fully supporting Wales. I have seen on facebook Welsh Liverpool fans who a couple of years ago would comment on, for example, Sterling's performance for England (when he played for Liverpool) now going to Paris to watch Wales in the fanzone there and ripping England for their current campaign. People may say their not proper welsh supporters because they used to be interested in England more than Wales, but they are people who are now buying Welsh shirts and contributing to our wealth. It's also given the nation more of a cohesive identity as a whole, which i think is even more important than what its done for welsh football.
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Post by jenko on Jun 28, 2016 13:03:24 GMT
The N. Ireland game was the first game I watched in Wales. Ended up spending the day in Llangollen, Ruthin and Wrexham and almost everyone I saw, of all generations, was wearing a Welsh top, was magnificent to see.
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Post by bostoniandragon on Jun 28, 2016 15:42:24 GMT
I will say I was able to get three generations of my family watching the last game and we were all interested, including my father who does not really like soccer (football). Mind you we are way more distant from our Welsh roots then any of you but it was fun for us to watch.
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Post by toshfan on Jul 4, 2016 11:03:09 GMT
The excitement and anticipation about what is happening is off the scale. A small indicator, I know, but I was at the annual Ysgol Gymraeg Llundain BBQ on Saturday and a majority of the kids were wearing something Welsh Football related.
On twitter, an increasing amount of schools are uploading songs about the national side.
Memories have been created that will last a lifetime. Once the tournament is over, there will be incredible opportunities to leave a lasting legacy and I will be fascinated with how the monies from this tournament will be invested in Welsh Football e.g. more 3G, indoor football, increasing the amount of coaches etc.
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Post by texan on Jul 4, 2016 11:09:33 GMT
The excitement and anticipation about what is happening is off the scale. A small indicator, I know, but I was at the annual Ysgol Gymraeg Llundain BBQ on Saturday and a majority of the kids were wearing something Welsh Football related. On twitter, an increasing amount of schools are uploading songs about the national side. Memories have been created that will last a lifetime. Once the tournament is over, there will be incredible opportunities to leave a lasting legacy and I will be fascinated with how the monies from this tournament will be invested in Welsh Football e.g. more 3G, indoor football, increasing the amount of coaches etc. Interesting to note what the Trust told Chris Wathan when he was researching his book, that they're not interested in legacy, as they do legacy all the time. They're hoping this tournament is rather a catalyst, an awakening if you like. The Welsh populous are bloody wide-awake now after Friday night! |
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Post by toshfan on Jul 4, 2016 11:14:22 GMT
Interesting to note what the Trust told Chris Wathan when he was researching his book, that they're not interested in legacy, as they do legacy all the time. They're hoping this tournament is rather a catalyst, an awakening if you like. I have thought about it in those terms (not read the book yet), and whilst the Trust have done incredible things, it would be a shame if they really view it in those terms. There must be a list of things that they would like to see to take us to the next level. A large proportion of last season was washed out and that suits no child that needs to be developed. |
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Post by bdintokyo on Jul 4, 2016 11:24:24 GMT
Friday was the biggest TV audience for ANY sport event in Welsh history... Well, until Wednesday, no doubt! That could be one hell of a catalyst.
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Post by dai on Jul 4, 2016 11:37:37 GMT
1 week ago the FAW merchandise in Carmarthen's Tesco was pretty well stocked, went there yesterday and nearly all the tops were gone!
Also I saw more people wearing welsh football tops in Tesco in 1 hour than I've done over the past year around and about Carmarthen, amazing.
I hate bring up the whole rugby football debate, but this surpasses any grand slam or whatever the rugby team have achieved. Loving it.
I hope the interest continues way beyond this, and that football now gets an equal share of the publicity within Wales and the media. I'm looking forward to seeing the public reactions to the qualifiers in September!
Does anyone know if the FAW have any plans to bring out a DVD after this Euro's? Game highlights, behind the scenes in the camp, interview etc. Would be great.
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Post by welshiron on Jul 4, 2016 11:45:49 GMT
The TV audience in Wales was higher than any other welsh sporting event showing how uch interest has been buried under the surface for so long.
Time for the FAW to close the membership scheme to new members to ensure TT holders from the last campaign are guaranteed tickets
This may also lead to a return to the Millenium stadium which I am not totally adverse to (tin hat on!)
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Post by texan on Jul 4, 2016 12:54:06 GMT
I hate bring up the whole rugby football debate, but this surpasses any grand slam or whatever the rugby team have achieved. Loving it. I discussed this with a friend last Friday night, he's a massive rugby fan...not so much football, but he was openly admitting rugby cannot compete in any way with the impact of football. He said Wales reaching the semis of the RWC in 2011 was excellent at the time for Welsh exposure but pales into comparison with what's currently happening. The Welsh football side is currently reaching a truly global audience on a scale impossible for Welsh rugby to achieve. From massive juggernaut international brands such as Adidas and Budweiser tweeting in Welsh to the New York Times issuing a glossary of Welsh language terms within its pages and a Brazilian tv station having a featurette on Welsh castles...and everything in between. Its amazing, everyone seems to be falling in love with Wales and the Welsh, we seem to be everyone's 2nd team! The Barry Horns said it best though...the longer we stay in this tournament the less chance there is in future of us having to explain we're not English, we're Welsh! |
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Post by bostoniandragon on Jul 4, 2016 16:01:46 GMT
This is probably a little US-centric, but Wales and Iceland were the media darlings here on ESPN. The fact that Wales is still alive is boosting their popularity big time over here, Friends that have always given me grief for supporting Wales and Italy ( I am also Italian) have ben pretty uniform in rooting for Wales this tournament. This is a fun team to watch. As has been reiterated a few times here one can only hope that they use this to propel themselves further unlike the US has done growing stagnant at the level we are at.
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Post by bale-droed on Jul 5, 2016 5:42:48 GMT
This is probably a little US-centric, but Wales and Iceland were the media darlings here on ESPN. The fact that Wales is still alive is boosting their popularity big time over here, Friends that have always given me grief for supporting Wales and Italy ( I am also Italian) have ben pretty uniform in rooting for Wales this tournament. This is a fun team to watch. As has been reiterated a few times here one can only hope that they use this to propel themselves further unlike the US has done growing stagnant at the level we are at. I'm in Canada so I'm watching the euros on TSN and I have a different view. They seem to be all for France or maybe they have to seem that way because of Quebec |
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Post by bale-droed on Jul 5, 2016 5:52:00 GMT
You know I have always been a guy who is 60/40 football over rugby but that still makes me the biggest football fan I know and the second biggest rugby fan I know. I only realized this about 2 years ago but rugby in Wales is a dinasour that needs to stop being shoved down our throats. I have had 2 Dragons season tickets in my time and a blues season ticket. I don't know anyone else who has ever had one so how big is our so called national sport according to walesonine? I mean since I was 19 in 2009 the 6 Nations has sickened me. It's an excuse for middle aged women to get and get hammered and for girls to bag a rugby boy on the dancefloor there's no fucking pride it's pantomine. only i'd say 10% of people truly care so much that the outcome of a game would bother them for the next day. We have 4 regions with an average attendece of less that 10,000 (that could be fixed slightly if they created a league of 8 or 10 teams in Wales but that's a different debate) and whenever a Welsh player such as Cuthbert is being slammed on social media if you ask someone who the would pick from the regions they haven't got a clue! That's because no one apart from IMO an even smaller minority than rugby even cares about the regions. I played rugby until I was 23 and I swear if you take a team of 25 guys only 7 know what's happening in the regions. Rugby in Wales for boys is like Circumsition for the jewish people your playing/having it done even if you don't want it because it's viewed as some 1920's right to manhood that your grandad and dad did so you have to play or your a wimp. My school didn't even have a football team. So yeah as much as walesonline might hate it this tournament might actually now mean that boys especially in the Valleys might actually have a fairer chance of playing football. When you think about say Rhondda Cynon Taf and the players they've produced for the national team over the years....Haven't been able to pull their weight really compared to other areas of Wales have they?
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Post by richierich333 on Jul 5, 2016 7:30:05 GMT
This is probably a little US-centric, but Wales and Iceland were the media darlings here on ESPN. The fact that Wales is still alive is boosting their popularity big time over here, Friends that have always given me grief for supporting Wales and Italy ( I am also Italian) have ben pretty uniform in rooting for Wales this tournament. This is a fun team to watch. As has been reiterated a few times here one can only hope that they use this to propel themselves further unlike the US has done growing stagnant at the level we are at. So what is your story Bostoniandragon in terms of the link to Wales? Are there many welsh in Boston as I believe this city to have a strong Irish (or italian) connection. |
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Post by dai on Jul 5, 2016 9:41:54 GMT
I wonder if one of our players, or even Chris Coleman will be up for the BBC Sport Personality of the Year now. I think the BBC Wales version is a given for either Coleman or one of the players, and the team prize of course.
Imagine the scenes if Dan Biggar or another rugby player won this time round!
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Post by bostoniandragon on Jul 6, 2016 6:06:32 GMT
This is probably a little US-centric, but Wales and Iceland were the media darlings here on ESPN. The fact that Wales is still alive is boosting their popularity big time over here, Friends that have always given me grief for supporting Wales and Italy ( I am also Italian) have ben pretty uniform in rooting for Wales this tournament. This is a fun team to watch. As has been reiterated a few times here one can only hope that they use this to propel themselves further unlike the US has done growing stagnant at the level we are at. So what is your story Bostoniandragon in terms of the link to Wales? Are there many welsh in Boston as I believe this city to have a strong Irish (or italian) connection. To be honest it's a bit distance at this point. My surname is Welsh and my family has always been proud of this fact, we link it back to an earl I guess (no clue which one my ancestor was the 7th son). He came over to Boston in colonial times, then they moved up to Canada and became a big deal, then came back here to Boston after the Halifax explosion. As for Boston there is a decent Welsh allocation I don't really know much about it? Would love to find out more. Boston was a major hub for the immigration like when my ancestor came over. |
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Post by richierich333 on Jul 6, 2016 13:22:49 GMT
I see a lot of Welsh surnames in film credits and with sports stars so we must have gotten around quite a bit!
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Post by toshfan on Jul 8, 2016 11:18:49 GMT
I received the following today from someone I knew in Primary School:
"Hi Mark, hope you had some memorable trips to France? [Name Removed] has really got into football and would like to go to some WC qualifiers, do you have to become a member of FAW to buy tickets? Cheers"
I answered his question. He is a rugby fan (but Liverpool football too).
But for me this is a positive. I expect many of these messages are being exchanged at the moment. Of course I understand that it is frustrating for some when people we know who love rugby are getting tickets over football fans etc but if this young kid goes to on follow us regularly it is in the positive legacy column for me!
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Post by sleepy on Jul 8, 2016 11:22:16 GMT
I received the following today from someone I knew in Primary School: "Hi Mark, hope you had some memorable trips to France? [Name Removed] has really got into football and would like to go to some WC qualifiers, do you have to become a member of FAW to buy tickets? Cheers" I answered his question. He is a rugby fan (but Liverpool football too). But for me this is a positive. I expect many of these messages are being exchanged at the moment. Of course I understand that it is frustrating for some when people we know who love rugby are getting tickets over football fans etc but if this young kid goes to on follow us regularly it is in the positive legacy column for me! Agree totally. Everyone has to start somewhere. Everyone just needs to make sure they are on the ball now when it comes to buying tickets/memberships. |
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Post by cadno on Jul 8, 2016 11:56:50 GMT
I've been asked to go into my primary school and talk to the children about my experience following Wales at the Euros! The euros will certainly leave an incredible legacy and this is just the beginning  . |
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Post by jenko on Jul 8, 2016 12:10:25 GMT
I've been asked to go into my primary school and talk to the children about my experience following Wales at the Euros! The euros will certainly leave an incredible legacy and this is just the beginning . I'd start with driving up to the school in a citroen, stopping at every child you see yelling 'Pays de Galles, Garet Bel huh" in your best french accent. Then, neck a couple of pints of Leffe, start singing 'don't take me home' then end it with a stirring rendition of the national anthem. |
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Post by dai on Jul 8, 2016 12:20:58 GMT
I've been asked to go into my primary school and talk to the children about my experience following Wales at the Euros! The euros will certainly leave an incredible legacy and this is just the beginning . I'd start with driving up to the school in a citroen, stopping at every child you see yelling 'Pays de Galles, Garet Bel huh" in your best french accent. Then, neck a couple of pints of Leffe, start singing 'don't take me home' then end it with a stirring rendition of the national anthem. And the chants, remember to perform ALL the chants! |
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Post by scoop76 on Jul 9, 2016 4:58:29 GMT
I wonder if one of our players, or even Chris Coleman will be up for the BBC Sport Personality of the Year now. I think the BBC Wales version is a given for either Coleman or one of the players, and the team prize of course. Imagine the scenes if Dan Biggar or another rugby player won this time round! I think Wales will be a front runner for Team of the Year - but so will Leicester City and -if Britain does well at the Olympics - Team GB. Coleman will be in the running for coachim of the year after losing out to N Ireland last time. The Wales awards could well be dominated by the football team... |
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Post by gwernybwch on Jul 9, 2016 9:09:36 GMT
I've been asked to go into my primary school and talk to the children about my experience following Wales at the Euros! The euros will certainly leave an incredible legacy and this is just the beginning . I'd start with driving up to the school in a citroen, stopping at every child you see yelling 'Pays de Galles, Garet Bel huh" in your best french accent. Then, neck a couple of pints of Leffe, start singing 'don't take me home' then end it with a stirring rendition of the national anthem. Followed by a long queue / wait to get on public transport after the game? |
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Post by gwernybwch on Jul 9, 2016 9:15:06 GMT
Memories have been created that will last a lifetime. Once the tournament is over, there will be incredible opportunities to leave a lasting legacy and I will be fascinated with how the monies from this tournament will be invested in Welsh Football e.g. more 3G, indoor football, increasing the amount of coaches etc. I don't know if it is possible, but I would love to see some of that cash being spent on bringing the Racecourse ground up to International standard so that we can play international games in North Wales again.
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Post by ae15 on Jul 9, 2016 14:34:18 GMT
I wonder if one of our players, or even Chris Coleman will be up for the BBC Sport Personality of the Year now. I think the BBC Wales version is a given for either Coleman or one of the players, and the team prize of course. Imagine the scenes if Dan Biggar or another rugby player won this time round! I think Wales will be a front runner for Team of the Year - but so will Leicester City and -if Britain does well at the Olympics - Team GB. Coleman will be in the running for coachim of the year after losing out to N Ireland last time. The Wales awards could well be dominated by the football team... I think that Leicester will deservedly still win Team of the Year. Remember we were about 80/1 to win the Euros and Leicester were 5000/1 to win the Premier League. If we had made it to the final or won I think it might have been shared. Coleman will win Coach of the Year I think however. |
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Post by Tommy32 on Jul 9, 2016 14:36:15 GMT
I'd start with driving up to the school in a citroen, stopping at every child you see yelling 'Pays de Galles, Garet Bel huh" in your best french accent. Then, neck a couple of pints of Leffe, start singing 'don't take me home' then end it with a stirring rendition of the national anthem. Followed by a long queue / wait to get on public transport after the game? And then standing in the middle of town looking for a taxi for a few hours |
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