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Post by conwy10 on Dec 4, 2022 21:00:00 GMT
I think a big problem is we build these pitches for clubs, they rent them out for really large prices, the funding rarely goes back into the clubs its usually to pay pretty terrible players in the context of things to play for the senior team.
Llandudno for example can't play on their 3G as it's damaged, despite renting it out at a large cost are looking at go fund me to pay for it. How much will their players be on?
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Post by garynysmon on Dec 4, 2022 23:35:44 GMT
Worth reiterating how hamstrung we are by Wales’ biggest teams playing in another country. Take the top 4/5 teams out of any country’s pyramid and the impact would be massive.
Imagine the SPL without the Old Firm and both Edinburgh clubs?
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 5, 2022 7:32:11 GMT
The English based teams are a problem, but we can't do anything about it. We have to essentially ignore them and come up with a strategy with what we've got.
1. Clubs training miles away from where they're based to accommodate English players. Even Rhuddlan Town in tier 5 train in Holywell to cut the travel time for their players over the border. Their player's won't affect the national team but its a huge problem we need to remove from Welsh football. It is common but its sank to tier 5, it's sad for Welsh football.
2. Put a quota on the amount of U21's in our domestic match day squads. Let's get some academy lads playing regularly and clubs opening pathways for them.
3. Make it easier for kids to play. I wanted to get a little team going in my village. It's too small to have a permanent team, no facilities so can't train in the winter. Just wanted to arrange 5/6 matches a year. To do so we need DBS checks (completely agree and already got), we would need to affiliate with the local FA at a cost, affiliate with the junior league we have no intention of joining at a cost, all players must be registered to COMET.
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Post by talyfan on Dec 5, 2022 11:39:01 GMT
On point 2.
Only thing I would add is get rid of the under 19's league and just put these teams within the mens domestic system. Similar to how most countries do it on the continent. Produces players accustomed to mens football but clubs retain the players so they're able to be coached at a decent level. As opposed to a quota where it might get abused and players just used as a token to tick the box.
Do agree wholeheartedly with point three there was a junior side in one of the villages who established themselves but did not affiliate with the league. However, the league and North Wales Coast FA put a stop to it by saying if any team within the league or NWCFA played against them they would be punished. I get there are protocols to follow and they're likely adhering to it which is fair enough but we need a bit more flexibility. Only thing I would suggest is maybe joining tournaments in the summer? As long as not affiliated to the league there isn't much they can do by the looks of it.
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 5, 2022 18:06:16 GMT
It's just annoying you can't do things with good intentions without going down official channels. The locals here have got nothing and as we couldn't play games no one wanted to carry on. I have other roles so can't risk that to test them unfortunately. It seems likely charity football will meet its end if the rumoured one club rule for adults comes in.
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Post by rushy on Dec 5, 2022 19:50:31 GMT
NWCFA have always looked after themselves , looks like that hasn't changed much for the better.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 5, 2022 21:29:29 GMT
It'll take a long long time, but the long term aim has to be getting the Cymru Premier up to the standard of "average" within the UEFA coefficient ranks Then our league will be able to develop players who can step up to the English based clubs and hopefully top flight clubs in England. So then loans to the Cymru Premier will become more viable, especially if some players could get experience in Europe I admire your thought process but unfortunately Wales simply does not have the population areas to provide a “ decent level/average league” due to complete lack of support. Without wading through average attendances I doubt the likes of TNS ( our best team by far) can compare to Englands tenth or 11th type divisions. Yes we have to start somewhere but the leagues been going for years and it’s still a pitiful existence unfortunately. There's a few problems with your thought process here. Firstly that you think population is the issue. Here are some other countries populations with their UEFA coefficients... 9th Scotland (5.4 million) 15th Norway (5.4 million) 18th Croatia (3.9 million) 21st Cyprus (1.2 million) 27th Slovakia (5.4 million) 31st Slovenia (2.1 million) In terms of population we are average within this list, therefore we could expect to aim to be a top 30 league at the very least The big issue we have compared to the countries mentioned here is that our top 5 clubs don't play in our pyramid. Imagine the Croatian league without Dinamo Zagreb, Hajduk Split, Osijek, Rijeka and Istra. You'd be left with clubs you've never heard of. If we had Cardiff, Swansea, Newport, Wrecsam & Merthyr we'd be much higher up the coefficients In regards to what we actually have at our disposal you're wrong about the quality of the league. Wales C 4-0 England C was this year, just goes to show our top division is equally as good as the National League in reality. The main difference is attendances and money, which is what we need to work on here in Wales |
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