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Post by jimexotic on Mar 8, 2022 15:58:08 GMT
13 from 30 this season, it seems the more he plays the better he gets, more of the same tonight please!
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Post by iot on Apr 18, 2022 17:56:03 GMT
He obviously has great technique and has an eye for goal, but what does the rest of his game look like? I've only watched him a couple of times, so would be interested in any insights from Wrexham fans. Does he get stuck in / heavily involved in distribution and setting the tempo, or is he more of a luxury midfielder who doesn't do much but comes up with the goals? By luxury midfielder, I'm thinking the likes of Leroy Fer or Andy King
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 26, 2022 20:27:04 GMT
Scored another cracker tonight
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Post by robin1864 on Apr 26, 2022 20:46:37 GMT
It won't ever happen, lads. He could still be at Brighton in the PL, but Page would still give preference to Morrell.
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Post by evans1282 on Apr 27, 2022 3:15:25 GMT
It won't ever happen, lads. He could still be at Brighton in the PL, but Page would still give preference to Morrell. Just don't get the Morrell haters like you! |
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Post by robin1864 on Apr 27, 2022 4:36:36 GMT
It won't ever happen, lads. He could still be at Brighton in the PL, but Page would still give preference to Morrell. Just don't get the Morrell haters like you! There are other reasons too; the continual denial of Maxwell, for instance, even when he's been the only Welsh keeper playing regular football at times. At times it's felt as if Wales has a begrudging attitude towards Wrexham graduates. |
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Post by Dubai Reds on Apr 27, 2022 4:44:14 GMT
If Wrexham get promoted into League 2, he will have a chance of a call up if he continues the current form. He's clearly too good for non-league.
We have in the past called up Josh Sheehan & Tom King at Newport, and currently Jonny Williams at Swindon - all League 2 players when called-up so that's the recent precedent.
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 27, 2022 5:56:53 GMT
Just don't get the Morrell haters like you! There are other reasons too; the continual denial of Maxwell, for instance, even when he's been the only Welsh keeper playing regular football at times. At times it's felt as if Wales has a begrudging attitude towards Wrexham graduates. Yeah, the hypothetical theory that Page ‘would probably pick Morrell even if Davies was In the Premier League with Brighton’ and the non selection of Maxwell as third or fourth choice reserve keeper is clear evidence of Wales having a thing against Wrexham. |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 27, 2022 6:12:39 GMT
There are other reasons too; the continual denial of Maxwell, for instance, even when he's been the only Welsh keeper playing regular football at times. At times it's felt as if Wales has a begrudging attitude towards Wrexham graduates. Yeah, the hypothetical theory that Page ‘would probably pick Morrell even if James was In the Premier League with Brighton’ and the non selection of Maxwell as third or fourth choice reserve keeper is clear evidence of Wales having a thing against Wrexham. Didn't Danny Ward start at Wrexham? |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 27, 2022 6:47:22 GMT
If Davies continues this form into next season and Wrexham have been promoted I think he might get a look, same with a few of those lads.
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 27, 2022 7:33:14 GMT
Yeah, the hypothetical theory that Page ‘would probably pick Morrell even if James was In the Premier League with Brighton’ and the non selection of Maxwell as third or fourth choice reserve keeper is clear evidence of Wales having a thing against Wrexham. Didn't Danny Ward start at Wrexham? Ha ha. I think he means that Page has something against players who started at Wrexham except for the times he picks players who started at Wrexham. |
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Post by iot on Apr 27, 2022 7:41:36 GMT
I have doubts about him personally. I accept that a 20-goal return is brilliant from midfield, and he clearly has a lot of talent and fantastic technical ability. But from the few times I've seen him, his all-round game as a midfielder seems to be severely lacking. For a midfielder that's "far too good" for that level, you would expect him to be dominating games and pulling the strings. But he has usually been very quiet 90% of the time in games I've watched, and then he just pulls out a piece of brilliance with a freekick or strike from the edge of the box. I've seen wrexham fans making similar comments - I believe he got a bit of stick after the woking loss and someone commented after the game yesterday that he can be quiet for 70-75mins and then pops up with a goal. The issue is that his goal return is likely to decline as he goes up the leagues, and so the deficiencies in the rest of his game will likely be exposed.
Having said all that, I have only seen him a few times and reading in between the lines from some Wrexham fans' comments and the fact he never came close to senior football at Brighton. I would love to hear Wrexham fans say I've totally misjudged it, and that he does in fact have a lot more to him, that he is capable of running games and applying the hard graft. At the moment, he just comes across as a luxury player that gets away with it at this level, but would struggle to establish himself higher up if his goal return dries up.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 28, 2022 10:26:43 GMT
I have doubts about him personally. I accept that a 20-goal return is brilliant from midfield, and he clearly has a lot of talent and fantastic technical ability. But from the few times I've seen him, his all-round game as a midfielder seems to be severely lacking. For a midfielder that's "far too good" for that level, you would expect him to be dominating games and pulling the strings. But he has usually been very quiet 90% of the time in games I've watched, and then he just pulls out a piece of brilliance with a freekick or strike from the edge of the box. I've seen wrexham fans making similar comments - I believe he got a bit of stick after the woking loss and someone commented after the game yesterday that he can be quiet for 70-75mins and then pops up with a goal. The issue is that his goal return is likely to decline as he goes up the leagues, and so the deficiencies in the rest of his game will likely be exposed. Having said all that, I have only seen him a few times and reading in between the lines from some Wrexham fans' comments and the fact he never came close to senior football at Brighton. I would love to hear Wrexham fans say I've totally misjudged it, and that he does in fact have a lot more to him, that he is capable of running games and applying the hard graft. At the moment, he just comes across as a luxury player that gets away with it at this level, but would struggle to establish himself higher up if his goal return dries up. Interesting points. I've never watched him so can't really comment on his ability It's a valid thing to be sceptical about, as I doubt he'd get a look in as a number 10 for us, and sounds like the attacking side of his game is best. It .ight be that he kicks on as he moves upwards, but like you say it's less likely that he could maintain that level of goalscoring All that being said, a 10 goal a season midfielder in League Two is worth looking at IMO. He and Mullin should be invited to the EFL Camp in the summer, and perhaps they can shine? Would personally love to have Wrecsam back contributing players to the National setup |
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Post by iot on Apr 28, 2022 11:21:08 GMT
I have doubts about him personally. I accept that a 20-goal return is brilliant from midfield, and he clearly has a lot of talent and fantastic technical ability. But from the few times I've seen him, his all-round game as a midfielder seems to be severely lacking. For a midfielder that's "far too good" for that level, you would expect him to be dominating games and pulling the strings. But he has usually been very quiet 90% of the time in games I've watched, and then he just pulls out a piece of brilliance with a freekick or strike from the edge of the box. I've seen wrexham fans making similar comments - I believe he got a bit of stick after the woking loss and someone commented after the game yesterday that he can be quiet for 70-75mins and then pops up with a goal. The issue is that his goal return is likely to decline as he goes up the leagues, and so the deficiencies in the rest of his game will likely be exposed. Having said all that, I have only seen him a few times and reading in between the lines from some Wrexham fans' comments and the fact he never came close to senior football at Brighton. I would love to hear Wrexham fans say I've totally misjudged it, and that he does in fact have a lot more to him, that he is capable of running games and applying the hard graft. At the moment, he just comes across as a luxury player that gets away with it at this level, but would struggle to establish himself higher up if his goal return dries up. Interesting points. I've never watched him so can't really comment on his ability It's a valid thing to be sceptical about, as I doubt he'd get a look in as a number 10 for us, and sounds like the attacking side of his game is best. It .ight be that he kicks on as he moves upwards, but like you say it's less likely that he could maintain that level of goalscoring All that being said, a 10 goal a season midfielder in League Two is worth looking at IMO. He and Mullin should be invited to the EFL Camp in the summer, and perhaps they can shine? Would personally love to have Wrecsam back contributing players to the National setup Obviously Wrexham fans have a far better insight, I still haven't seen someone articulate what type of midfielder he is. But yeah, no harm the Welsh setup having a closer look, we are desperate in that area after all! |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 28, 2022 11:41:33 GMT
Interesting points. I've never watched him so can't really comment on his ability It's a valid thing to be sceptical about, as I doubt he'd get a look in as a number 10 for us, and sounds like the attacking side of his game is best. It .ight be that he kicks on as he moves upwards, but like you say it's less likely that he could maintain that level of goalscoring All that being said, a 10 goal a season midfielder in League Two is worth looking at IMO. He and Mullin should be invited to the EFL Camp in the summer, and perhaps they can shine? Would personally love to have Wrecsam back contributing players to the National setup Obviously Wrexham fans have a far better insight, I still haven't seen someone articulate what type of midfielder he is. But yeah, no harm the Welsh setup having a closer look, we are desperate in that area after all! He splits opinion of many, but I'd say most agree that he's among the most talented players in our team. He does tend to drift out of games at times but when he does, the whole team feels it. His passing ability is amongst the best of any player I've seen at this level, and his number of goals this season from outside the box is comfortably in double figures. His attitude is outstanding as well, the lad went through one of the worst things imaginable earlier this season in his personal life yet kept his performances to a great level. Always has time for community work too. I fear that if Page gets in his ear about a potential international call-up in the future, he'll look for a move higher up. Other than that he'll remain at Wrexham, his hometown club who will pay him more. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 28, 2022 11:45:04 GMT
As for what type of midfielder he is, I'd say his best role is sitting behind the strikers but not too far forward. He can thread through that killer pass, dribble past players and he can finish from pretty much anywhere. Not the best tackler though I've found, so needs a couple of ball winners with him. Since Luke Young and James Jones started working better together, Davies has flourished.
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Post by iot on Apr 28, 2022 12:07:47 GMT
Obviously Wrexham fans have a far better insight, I still haven't seen someone articulate what type of midfielder he is. But yeah, no harm the Welsh setup having a closer look, we are desperate in that area after all! He splits opinion of many, but I'd say most agree that he's among the most talented players in our team. He does tend to drift out of games at times but when he does, the whole team feels it. His passing ability is amongst the best of any player I've seen at this level, and his number of goals this season from outside the box is comfortably in double figures. His attitude is outstanding as well, the lad went through one of the worst things imaginable earlier this season in his personal life yet kept his performances to a great level. Always has time for community work too. I fear that if Page gets in his ear about a potential international call-up in the future, he'll look for a move higher up. Other than that he'll remain at Wrexham, his hometown club who will pay him more. Interesting, thank you! The drifting in and out of games is the thing that would concern me most, as we really can't afford to carry any passengers. But it sounds like he could be an option if he improves that side of his game |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 28, 2022 13:29:45 GMT
He splits opinion of many, but I'd say most agree that he's among the most talented players in our team. He does tend to drift out of games at times but when he does, the whole team feels it. His passing ability is amongst the best of any player I've seen at this level, and his number of goals this season from outside the box is comfortably in double figures. His attitude is outstanding as well, the lad went through one of the worst things imaginable earlier this season in his personal life yet kept his performances to a great level. Always has time for community work too. I fear that if Page gets in his ear about a potential international call-up in the future, he'll look for a move higher up. Other than that he'll remain at Wrexham, his hometown club who will pay him more. Interesting, thank you! The drifting in and out of games is the thing that would concern me most, as we really can't afford to carry any passengers. But it sounds like he could be an option if he improves that side of his game I'd say it's not often that he does, but when it happens we feel it. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on May 2, 2022 7:16:40 GMT
Set up the winner yesterday with a perfect cross to Palmer.
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Post by erasedcitizen on May 9, 2022 11:42:23 GMT
2 assists for him yesterday, this was his first.
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Post by erasedcitizen on May 9, 2022 11:48:32 GMT
Another view:
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Post by insertname on May 9, 2022 14:11:20 GMT
Again that goal by Mullin is agnostic of the level he plays at- the keeper seems very well positioned and he’s hit it plum on the only trajectory where the keeper won’t get a hand on it and yet it will creep inside the post. He looks every inch a better player than the NL.
By way of contrast there was a lad on another thread who was arguing for a call up for Vokes if Moore is injured, yesterday I watched Vokes through on goal with the chance to put Wycombe through to Wembley, his first touch to go round the keeper nearly took the ball out of the ground, he chased after it like an overweight dog chasing a stick and ended up taking it so wide he had a job not to concede a throw in in the end. Sorry, but it was laughable and then you compare that at league one level to what Mullin is doing in the conference….there’s only one player out of the pair of them I’d be calling up….and it isn’t Vokes!
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Post by iot on May 9, 2022 15:19:41 GMT
Again that goal by Mullin is agnostic of the level he plays at- the keeper seems very well positioned and he’s hit it plum on the only trajectory where the keeper won’t get a hand on it and yet it will creep inside the post. He looks every inch a better player than the NL. By way of contrast there was a lad on another thread who was arguing for a call up for Vokes if Moore is injured, yesterday I watched Vokes through on goal with the chance to put Wycombe through to Wembley, his first touch to go round the keeper nearly took the ball out of the ground, he chased after it like an overweight dog chasing a stick and ended up taking it so wide he had a job not to concede a throw in in the end. Sorry, but it was laughable and then you compare that at league one level to what Mullin is doing in the conference….there’s only one player out of the pair of them I’d be calling up….and it isn’t Vokes! I watched the first half of the game, which was a great watch btw. I really don't want to be a debbie downer, but I think there are a lot of unknowns here with Mullin and Davies. For the first 30mins I thought Davies was poor. I felt Stockport were completely on top, and watching the Welsh boys closely, I thought Davies was partly to blame for that because their midfield were given free rein. Young and Jones are hardworkers and did a decent enough job in closing people down, but I never saw Davies get close to anyone which gave their midfield all the time in the world. But then he made about three class balls over the top and around the corner for Mullin to run onto, and the quality on the assist was superb. My main concern is he wouldn't get away with the lack of positional sense and defensive work rate at a higher level, and certainly not in a midfield 2. He often wasn't able to find spaces to get on the ball and dictate play too - might have been different in the second half mind, I only caught the first. Mullin was great at those runs in behind, every time Davies gets on the ball he seems to make those runs and it seems to be a massive part of Wrexham's game. Again, the big question is whether better defences would succumb so easily to those runs. It remains to be seen. His finishing does seem to be absolutely top class though! |
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Post by insertname on May 9, 2022 16:23:12 GMT
Again that goal by Mullin is agnostic of the level he plays at- the keeper seems very well positioned and he’s hit it plum on the only trajectory where the keeper won’t get a hand on it and yet it will creep inside the post. He looks every inch a better player than the NL. By way of contrast there was a lad on another thread who was arguing for a call up for Vokes if Moore is injured, yesterday I watched Vokes through on goal with the chance to put Wycombe through to Wembley, his first touch to go round the keeper nearly took the ball out of the ground, he chased after it like an overweight dog chasing a stick and ended up taking it so wide he had a job not to concede a throw in in the end. Sorry, but it was laughable and then you compare that at league one level to what Mullin is doing in the conference….there’s only one player out of the pair of them I’d be calling up….and it isn’t Vokes! I watched the first half of the game, which was a great watch btw. I really don't want to be a debbie downer, but I think there are a lot of unknowns here with Mullin and Davies. For the first 30mins I thought Davies was poor. I felt Stockport were completely on top, and watching the Welsh boys closely, I thought Davies was partly to blame for that because their midfield were given free rein. Young and Jones are hardworkers and did a decent enough job in closing people down, but I never saw Davies get close to anyone which gave their midfield all the time in the world. But then he made about three class balls over the top and around the corner for Mullin to run onto, and the quality on the assist was superb. My main concern is he wouldn't get away with the lack of positional sense and defensive work rate at a higher level, and certainly not in a midfield 2. He often wasn't able to find spaces to get on the ball and dictate play too - might have been different in the second half mind, I only caught the first. Mullin was great at those runs in behind, every time Davies gets on the ball he seems to make those runs and it seems to be a massive part of Wrexham's game. Again, the big question is whether better defences would succumb so easily to those runs. It remains to be seen. His finishing does seem to be absolutely top class though! Sounds like this Davies might possibly be playing below his level too then. It would be great to see them getting looked at for the seniors. Like you say with Mullin the issue is pretty much how he can find space because his shooting ability looks to be totally on point. Once again it’s hard not to bemoan the drawback of the international calendar being “tightened” with the nations league removing friendlies, would really like to have seen a low key game against a pot 4 or good pot 5 side to have a look at some of the fringe players we are unsure about. As it is I really don’t know how these guys will get an opportunity at the moment apart from a training camp with players of similar calibre but I’m not sure if that is really the best way to rule on them. I wonder how Wrexham will keep hold of Mullin at this rate if they don’t go up, obviously he is paid bloody well to make him leave a promoted team and drop down a level but there will be decently sized league one clubs willing to take a punt on him based on the quality of his finishing let alone his goal scoring numbers. |
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