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Post by TheWelshWay on Nov 21, 2019 9:40:59 GMT
My understanding is we're definite in A or B, that's been confirmed by reliable journalists on twitter. I think you're confusing things here jbt95 Not so sure anymore - think that is what people understood but its a bit more complicated
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 21, 2019 9:48:18 GMT
We are the smallest country to qualify automatically. The only countries that could qualify through the playoffs that are smaller than us are Iceland, NI, Kosovo and North Macedonia.
Highlights what an achievement this is for us.
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Post by TheWelshWay on Nov 21, 2019 9:49:09 GMT
reading that i think it makes sense that we can be in at least 3 groups as the League D route haven't got a pre determined group (only that they must avoid Russia for political reasons)
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 21, 2019 9:55:32 GMT
My understanding is we're definite in A or B, that's been confirmed by reliable journalists on twitter. I think you're confusing things here jbt95 Not so sure anymore - think that is what people understood but its a bit more complicated
Really hope we avoid the England group! Other than that I’d be happy to play in any of the others open to us.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 10:50:10 GMT
Not so sure anymore - think that is what people understood but its a bit more complicated
Really hope we avoid the England group! Other than that I’d be happy to play in any of the others open to us. I'd prefer englands group We aren't there to win the tournament I want as much hype as possible. Anything other than that Belgian Russia snooze fest
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Post by 1gwaunview on Nov 21, 2019 10:56:59 GMT
If we get drawn against Italy in Rome, to those of you who are lucky enough to get tickets for the game, the Stadio Olympico's sight-lines leave a lot to be desired in parts, with the running track around the pitch perimeter. I would say the first dozen or so rows of seats behind the goals offer a poor viewing experience. Strange that in this day and age UEFA in their wisdom should select multi purpose sports stadiums with a running track for a finals tournament (I know Baku stadium is similar but more modern, perhaps the lower rows there raised above the pitch level?).
More modern stadiums like Stade de France have retractable seats that come over the running tracks, but don't think Rome has that facility.
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Post by superunknown on Nov 21, 2019 10:57:11 GMT
My understanding is we're definite in A or B, that's been confirmed by reliable journalists on twitter. I think you're confusing things here jbt95 Not so sure anymore - think that is what people understood but its a bit more complicated
Mate made a good point that if we were in any group but A or B then isn't there the possibility we could be moved to another group in the scenario where a playoff host ends up qualifying. So if we were placed in London/Glasgow and Scotland qualified wouldn't we have to move as there'd be two teams from Pot 4? The same goes for if we ended up in Budapest/Munich or Bucharest/Amsterdam and Hungary or Romania qualified respectively.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Nov 21, 2019 11:04:34 GMT
What a dog's dinner UEFA/Platini have made of this tournament.
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Post by superunknown on Nov 21, 2019 12:10:40 GMT
Probably worth considering that Russia are in trouble with the Anti Doping authorities and risk expulsion from major sporting events including hosting the Euros. They meet on 9th December to discuss.
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Post by manulike on Nov 21, 2019 12:39:36 GMT
Probably worth considering that Russia are in trouble with the Anti Doping authorities and risk expulsion from major sporting events including hosting the Euros. They meet on 9th December to discuss. I wonder if the FAW have put Cardiff forward as a last minute step in ;-) Annoyingly, just like with Baku/Rome, St Petersbug and Copenhagen DO NOT HAVE DIRECT FLIGHTS ;-(
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 21, 2019 12:42:50 GMT
Probably worth considering that Russia are in trouble with the Anti Doping authorities and risk expulsion from major sporting events including hosting the Euros. They meet on 9th December to discuss. I didn’t know this. Would that mean Scotland could be pushed up to second in that group and qualify automatically?
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Post by superunknown on Nov 21, 2019 12:44:22 GMT
Probably worth considering that Russia are in trouble with the Anti Doping authorities and risk expulsion from major sporting events including hosting the Euros. They meet on 9th December to discuss. I wonder if the FAW have put Cardiff forward as a last minute step in ;-) Annoyingly, just like with Baku/Rome, St Petersbug and Copenhagen DO NOT HAVE DIRECT FLIGHTS ;-( SAS run a direct flight from Copenhagen - St Petersburg but it's like £200.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 21, 2019 12:44:26 GMT
I think we can all agree that this format is a joke
What utter prick thought Baku-Rome-Baku was feasible?
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Post by superunknown on Nov 21, 2019 12:45:08 GMT
Probably worth considering that Russia are in trouble with the Anti Doping authorities and risk expulsion from major sporting events including hosting the Euros. They meet on 9th December to discuss. I didn’t know this. Would that mean Scotland could be pushed up to second in that group and qualify automatically? Yeah that's what's being reported. Would then presumably mean we're bumped up to Pot 3 as we're ranked 19th currently.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 21, 2019 12:46:08 GMT
How have they fucked it up this badly?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 21, 2019 12:55:14 GMT
I bet you anything the extra games go to Wembley if Russia are to be eliminated.
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Post by texan on Nov 21, 2019 12:58:11 GMT
How have they fucked it up this badly? Money... "How can we open it up so as many people as humanly possible will want to buy tickets?" ...its logistical hell for us, imagine how it is for the poor bastards organising the thing! 60th anniversary celebration or not, I doubt we'll ever see this format again!
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 21, 2019 13:03:53 GMT
Apparently England's fans are only getting 11,000 tickets at Wembley, that would be 12%. Surely that can't be true?
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Post by selsigdeganwy on Nov 21, 2019 13:22:26 GMT
www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10379100/euro-2020-russia-anti-doping-toyko-olympic/Russia are one of 12 host countries for next summer's Euro 2020 tournament - which kicks off on June 12. The St Petersburg Stadium will be used for three Group B matches and a quarter-final on July 3. Russia's potential punishment comes as the country's anti-doping agency is expected to be declared non-compliant when the World Anti-Doping Agency's executive committee meet on December 9 to discuss the issue. The data in question comes from January 2012 to August 2015 and was obtained by WADA in January. "The ExCo is scheduled to meet on 9 December to discuss the recommendation." If the executive agrees with the findings, Russia could be banned from participating in major sporting events and have hosting rights removed. Should Russia appeal, the case would be taken to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.
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Post by insertname on Nov 21, 2019 13:28:08 GMT
I think we can all agree that this format is a joke What utter prick thought Baku-Rome-Baku was feasible? Platini told us flights were cheap these days.
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Post by insertname on Nov 21, 2019 13:31:18 GMT
I bet you anything the extra games go to Wembley if Russia are to be eliminated. Nothing will happen to Russia, trust me. If Uefa cared about controversy they would have taken the world cup off Qatar long before now. They also won't want to be in Putin's bad books. Uefa (and football in general), exists in a moral vacuum so while you might find Olympic sports keen to protect their image football will always follow the money first and worry about morals later.
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Post by superunknown on Nov 21, 2019 13:45:35 GMT
I bet you anything the extra games go to Wembley if Russia are to be eliminated. Nothing will happen to Russia, trust me. If Uefa cared about controversy they would have taken the world cup off Qatar long before now. They also won't want to be in Putin's bad books. Uefa (and football in general), exists in a moral vacuum so while you might find Olympic sports keen to protect their image football will always follow the money first and worry about morals later. I don't think this decision is down to UEFA though.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 21, 2019 15:24:28 GMT
I didn’t know this. Would that mean Scotland could be pushed up to second in that group and qualify automatically? Yeah that's what's being reported. Would then presumably mean we're bumped up to Pot 3 as we're ranked 19th currently. The draw's on the 30th November, so I doubt they'd redo the whole draw.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 21, 2019 15:46:58 GMT
I think we can all agree that this format is a joke What utter prick thought Baku-Rome-Baku was feasible? No one thought that it ever was, the last people to be considered when deciding the format were the fans. The main priority for UEFA for this tournament was consolidating their own power in European football, by ensuring the support of the twelve host countries, and with that the happy sponsors and corporate lot from each of the host cities. If were to get to the semi finals again, having finished runners up in our group our journey would be: Wales > Baku > Rome > Baku > Amsterdam > Baku > London By road that's a total of 26,903 km in 25 days. No journey between each game would be shorter than 4186km, and some of the games are just three days apart. In the months of June or July, I can find no direct flights between Baku and Western Europe, and certainly not to the UK, Italy or the Netherlands. Comparatively if you did the games for 2016 by road, it was a combined total of 3243km for all the games. The fact that's possible clearly shows that the fans are their last consideration.
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Post by impeachabull on Nov 21, 2019 16:06:51 GMT
I think we can all agree that this format is a joke What utter prick thought Baku-Rome-Baku was feasible? No one thought that it ever was, the last people to be considered when deciding the format were the fans. The main priority for UEFA for this tournament was consolidating their own power in European football, by ensuring the support of the twelve host countries, and with that the happy sponsors and corporate lot from each of the host cities. If were to get to the semi finals again, having finished runners up in our group our journey would be: Wales > Baku > Rome > Baku > Amsterdam > Baku > London By road that's a total of 26,903 km in 25 days. No journey between each game would be shorter than 4186km, and some of the games are just three days apart. In the months of June or July, I can find no direct flights between Baku and Western Europe, and certainly not to the UK, Italy or the Netherlands.Comparatively if you did the games for 2016 by road, it was a combined total of 3243km for all the games. The fact that's possible clearly shows that the fans are their last consideration. I agree wholeheartedly with the spirit of your post, but just in case we end up in Baku, you can get direct flights between Baku and London, Milan, and Paris or Frankfurt (for Amsterdam).
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Post by manulike on Nov 21, 2019 17:44:55 GMT
I think we can all agree that this format is a joke What utter prick thought Baku-Rome-Baku was feasible? More than likely, if we finish second in the group AND we get to the 1/4 final it will be ...
Baku-Rome-Baku-Amsterdam-Baku
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Post by alarch on Nov 21, 2019 18:12:57 GMT
I've wondering what it will take to get through the group stages. In 2016, the best 4 out of the 6 third placed teams qualified for the round of 16 along with the 6 group winners and runners-up. The contest between those four 3rd placed teams was very tight with two teams managing 4 points, and the 4 remaining teams all managing 3 points. Portugal (3 draws) and Northern Ireland (1 win and two defeats) qualified thanks to both having a zero goal difference. Albania and Northern Ireland fell short thanks to both having a -2 goal difference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016In 2020 the groups may well be less tight than last time, given the presence of two weak 4th seeds from leagues C and D of the Nations League (although if Kosovo make it I fancy them to manage a result). For context, in 2106 of the 4th placed sides, 5 managed a single point, with only Ukraine losing all games. The chances are that one good win and two narrow defeats will be enough for us to make the round of 16. In that context who we draw as 3rd seeds is the most important consideration in determining our prospects. Any country apart from Portugal would be OK, as I would fancy our chances against any of the other 5. At the outset of the draw the one team that all other nations will want to avoid will be Cymru - as there is no other 4th placed seed that will come close to being as strong as ourselves, assuming decent luck with injuries, and the absence of a weak fourth team will challenge the default assumption of progress for even the strongest countries. In fact, apart from Portugal, I don't think any of the third seeds are better than being of similar standing to ourselves - so our prospects (with that all important caveat of having most of our best players being available) for reaching the knock-out phase are pretty decent.
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Post by helipad138 on Nov 21, 2019 18:20:13 GMT
I think we can all agree that this format is a joke What utter prick thought Baku-Rome-Baku was feasible? More than likely, if we finish second in the group AND we get to the 1/4 final it will be ...
Baku-Rome-Baku-Amsterdam-Baku
The runners up in the two groups we can be in play each other in the last 16, with the winner heading to Baku...
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Post by alarch on Nov 21, 2019 18:33:43 GMT
If I've understood the sequencing of the matches correctly then it looks as if we'll be playing the third seeds first, then the second seeds second and the first seeds in the last game. If we're in Group B that would mean that we'd be playing Belgium last - who I would fancy to have beaten both Russia and Denmark and be already qualified by the time they play us. Could work in our favour.
From the Euro 2020 Wiki article:
Group stage schedule Matchday Dates Matches Matchday 1 12–16 June 2020 1 v 2, 3 v 4 Matchday 2 17–20 June 2020 1 v 3, 2 v 4 Matchday 3 21–24 June 2020 4 v 1, 2 v 3
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Post by alf on Nov 21, 2019 18:53:52 GMT
If we get drawn against Italy in Rome, to those of you who are lucky enough to get tickets for the game, the Stadio Olympico's sight-lines leave a lot to be desired in parts, with the running track around the pitch perimeter. I would say the first dozen or so rows of seats behind the goals offer a poor viewing experience. Strange that in this day and age UEFA in their wisdom should select multi purpose sports stadiums with a running track for a finals tournament (I know Baku stadium is similar but more modern, perhaps the lower rows there raised above the pitch level?). More modern stadiums like Stade de France have retractable seats that come over the running tracks, but don't think Rome has that facility. Talking about modern stadia with terrible views look no further than Aviva in Dublin. The away section we were in most seats were below the level of the pitch!
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