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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Oct 23, 2020 17:07:48 GMT
Agree that they won’t be pushovers, they’ve a host of good players- but i’d like to see the fringe players tbh: Davies (to get used to int footy)
Gunter Cabango Lockyer RND
Vaulks Ampadu
Woodburn Johnson Rabbi Tyro
Ampadu and RND and possibly Tyler to play 45”. Levitt and Davies, Amps and RND, with Tyro making way for Rodon and switch to the 3-4-3. Don’t mind about the other subs.
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Post by dai on Oct 23, 2020 17:10:12 GMT
Is Chester likely to be back though? Also I think we should deffo win with 12 players! Either 5 or 4 at the back should be fine for this one. Davies Roberts - Lockyer - Cabango - Davies Smith - Morrell Lawrence - Wilson - Matondo B Johnson B Davies to play 60 mins ish then Ampadu can come on to captain the team. Keep the man of the moment Joniesta fresh for Ireland!
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Post by cymru98 on Oct 23, 2020 17:11:37 GMT
Would play fringe players myself, can’t risk injuries with the following games being so important
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Post by cadno on Oct 23, 2020 17:29:44 GMT
Davies Lockyer Mepham RND Roberts Ampadu Huws James Wilson Bale Doidge
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 23, 2020 21:05:45 GMT
Is there much point in doing it in the Liberty if there are no fans? I'd rather they took an actual friendly to Swansea when fans can come along. Otherwise might it be better to build up more familiarity with the CCS? I don't think it makes much difference without fans at the moment, and maybe this is just a test run for possible future friendlies away from the CCS. I personally think it would be nice to rotate friendlies between Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham. Agreed
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Post by turkpower on Oct 24, 2020 11:09:13 GMT
Maybe an opportunity to get around 15,000 into the Principality stadium.
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Post by jbt95 on Oct 24, 2020 18:33:18 GMT
I think nearly all friendlies should be away from the CCS, but all competitive fixtures should be played there without question. And the Millennium Stadium should be consigned to Welsh Football history thanks. I think all friendlies should be at Swansea or Wrexham. I wouldn't be against playing one or two Nations League matches at the Millennium/Principality Stadium next time out if we are in League A, especially as 4 of the 6 matches are in June. If we played somebody like France or Portugal etc at 5pm on a June Saturday that's a huge chance to get a big crowd and introduce new fans etc. Might be in our interests to get relegated from League A if the chance of promotion from League B again would put us in the World Cup play-offs (if we do go up next month). Being in League A pretty much gives us a Euro play-off and Pot 2 for the qualifiers anyway.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Nov 3, 2020 11:05:52 GMT
Interestingly, USA have called up Yunus Musah, 17 year old Valencia winger. Last played for England Youth and is somewhat of a hot property- scored on the weekend, playing regularly for Valencia’s first team. Let’s hope he has a poor game for us, but sticks with the US thereafter!
They should be a good team on paper- but perhaps a bit inexperienced and unfamiliar with each other.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 3, 2020 17:12:48 GMT
Very inexperienced look on the US squad, 10 uncapped players and only 3 players over 25! Some very talented young players in there, especially McKennie and Adams in midfield and of course Pulisic going forward
Should be a good game
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 3, 2020 17:16:41 GMT
It is inexperienced from them, I think every players is European based which explains why. It'll allow us to experiment as well.
Their kids are very talented, a lot of them at top European clubs. Owen Otasowie is on the fringes of things at Wolves, playing in the same youth side as Chem Campbell and Terry Taylor, and looks really good. I think a lot of this side will end up playing next year in the Olympics for them, although they've yet to qualify just yet.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 5, 2020 11:57:37 GMT
Looks like back 5 will be used again. Here's what I'd go for in this friendly;
Ward Gunter-Cabango-Davies Neco-Sheehan-Smith-James Roberts-Wilson-Matondo
Davies only in there to test the James LWB option. Would sub him at HT for Lockyer
Neco hasn't played much since the last break and it sound like Roberts is in really good form for Swansea. I'd give Neco this game & give Roberts the Ireland game, we can then see where we are against Finland
Given Sheehan is getting regular senior minutes I don't think it would be a problem to throw him in there and see how he does. Certainly less of a risk than throwing someone like Levitt in is
Would like to see Brennan given a debut finally. Feels strange to leave Jonny out given his recent performances but given Wilson can't play against Ireland I'd use him here
Also feel like Bale/Brooks may need cameos for fitness reasons
I think we should have enough to get a win in this friendly - not that it matters of course
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Post by dylanjunecymru on Nov 5, 2020 12:14:10 GMT
Ward Cabango Ampadu Davies Roberts Smith Jonny James Wilson Moore Matondo
Think we could see something like this, personally i’d like to see james tested as a wing back. also using ampadu in the david luiz role in which season chelsea won the league under conte, bringing the ball out and utilising his passing range. jonny the creativity aswell as the fullbacks, hopefully we see more progressive passes from smith.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 5, 2020 12:14:44 GMT
Looking at the squad, a back five will surely be played in this game, even if it isn't necessarily what's played in both Nations League games. Provided everyone's fit here's what I'd go for. WardGunter (C) - Cabango - LockyerN. Williams - J. Williams - Smith - D. JamesT. Roberts - H. Wilson - MatondoSubs:
'45 - T. Lawrence > T. Roberts '60 - Norrington-Davies > James '60 - Levitt > J. Williams '60 - Sheehan > Smith '60 - B. Johnson > H. Wilson '80 - C. Roberts > N. Williams
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 5, 2020 12:27:39 GMT
Looking at the squad, a back five will surely be played in this game, even if it isn't necessarily what's played in both Nations League games. Provided everyone's fit here's what I'd go for. WardGunter (C) - Cabango - LockyerN. Williams - J. Williams - Smith - D. JamesT. Roberts - H. Wilson - MatondoSubs:
'45 - T. Lawrence > T. Roberts '60 - Norrington-Davies > James '60 - Levitt > J. Williams '60 - Sheehan > Smith '60 - B. Johnson > H. Wilson '80 - C. Roberts > N. Williams
No Bale at all? I'd say it's in our interests to bring him on for 30. Then give him an hour against Ireland.
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Post by TheWelshWay on Nov 5, 2020 12:34:45 GMT
-------------------Ward------------------
C.Roberts - Gunter (C)- Cabango - Lockleyr - RND
-------------------Morrell --------------------
J.Williams ----------Wilson-----------T.Lawrence
--------------------Moore---------------------
Subs
Neco > C.Roberts (45) Rodon > Cabango (45) Matondo > T.Lawrence (60) B.Johnson or Rambo > J.Williams (70) Bale or T.Roberts > Moore (70) OFW > Ward (final 5 minute sub - Yes please!!!!)
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Nov 5, 2020 12:40:39 GMT
Looking at the squad, a back five will surely be played in this game, even if it isn't necessarily what's played in both Nations League games. Provided everyone's fit here's what I'd go for. WardGunter (C) - Cabango - LockyerN. Williams - J. Williams - Smith - D. JamesT. Roberts - H. Wilson - MatondoSubs:
'45 - T. Lawrence > T. Roberts '60 - Norrington-Davies > James '60 - Levitt > J. Williams '60 - Sheehan > Smith '60 - B. Johnson > H. Wilson '80 - C. Roberts > N. Williams
No Bale at all? I'd say it's in our interests to bring him on for 30. Then give him an hour against Ireland. Purely just from the perspective of resting him to start the Ireland game, but obviously the physios and sport scientists will know exactly how much competitive football they'd want him to be playing before the game and I'd want him to play exactly how many minutes they think is best for him.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 5, 2020 13:58:49 GMT
I don’t think Bale or Ramsey need to be involved in the friendly. Give them an hour against ROI then full game against Finland if needed.
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Post by iot on Nov 5, 2020 14:47:50 GMT
I would go for:
Ward Neco Gunts Rodon Davies James Morrell Smith Jonny Roberts Wilson
As others have mentioned, Connor Roberts has been in great form so he deserves to start the competitive games and get a rest here. I wouldn't mind seeing Cabango ahead of Gunts, with the latter coming on for James. Otherwise, I'd bring Cabango on for Rodon around the 60' mark. Rodon's barely played for Spurs, and he was playing three games a week no problem for Swans, so this will get his sharpness up and allow us to test James at LWB without the rest of the defence too weakened - same reasoning for starting Davies. I think we need to strike a slightly better balance than some have suggested above re how much we experiment. If we do too much and have the likes of sheehan in midfield and a second choice defence, we won't really be able to test how james can do as a LWB in an otherwise solid team. Morrell has had limited playing time at Luton (any idea why he was subbed off at half time yesterday) so I'd prefer that he starts in a fairly solid midfield with smith, before we bring sheehan on. I'm undecided on what we do up front, I wouldn't seeing matondo or johnson even in there, but thin kwe should rest moore given he seems to play every single minute for cardiff
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Post by dai on Nov 5, 2020 23:30:23 GMT
Crikey, I checked out the USA squad just now - it's a lot more impressive than I thought. They have quite a few players in the PL, as well as top flight teams across Europe. Lot of uncapped players, but most of them are at top clubs.
This could be a lot tougher than I thought.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 5, 2020 23:43:54 GMT
Here's a bit of context about their squad and the potential team they could field with their club - all of these players are seniors for their club and playing regularly this season (aside from the GK);
Steffen/Man City
Dest/Barcelona - Brooks/Wolfsburg - Ream/Fulham - Robinson/Fulham
McKennie/Juventus - Adams/Leipzig
Reyna/Dortmund - Musah/Valencia - Pulisic/Chelsea
Sargent/Werder Bremen
Also they have several young uncapped players in their squad playing for the youth teams of some good clubs, including; Odunze/Leicester, Richards/Bayern Munich, Ledezma/PSV, Otasowie/Wolves, Weah/Lille, de la Fuente/Barcelona. They certainly have a side that looked well placed for the future and could even make an impact by Qatar 2022
Side discussion This has got me thinking about football in the Americas, and I'm reading about the centenary Copa America tournament in 2016 which was held in the USA and included 6 teams from CONCACAF (USA, Mexico, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Panama, Haiti) - apparently there were talks at the time of merging the Gold Cup and the Copa America into a Pan-American tournament but nothing came of it. When you consider you also have countries like Honduras (WC regulars) & Canada (some talented players like A.Davies, Hoilett & J.David) - you realise that it would end up being a quite exciting tournament with all those teams competing with the South American teams
I think something like this will end up happening eventually as the 'American' answer to our European Championships. The problem with the Copa America just being South American teams is that they play each other as a round robin in WC qualifiers anyway, so it feels a bit samey. For the next edition they've invited Australia & Qatar as guests, and I know they invited Japan before too - although including the Asian teams seems to make less sense than the North American ones to me
Having the 10 CONMEBOL teams plus USA, Mexico, Canada, Jamaica, Costa Rica & Honduras (and leaving qualification for this open to give teams like Trinidad & Tobago, Panama, Haiti & Curacao a chance to qualify would be good too) would make a great 16 team Pan-American tournament that would be marketable, have potential for growth with those North American teams seemingly on an upward trajectory, be an interesting watch that I'd certainly want to follow. I'd certainly be more interested watching this than watching the Copa America on it's own, and certainly the Gold Cup on it's own. Mexico are too good to not be playing the likes of Brazil/Argentina regularly, and I feel the same could become true of the USA
Anyway, it's an interesting thought. Afro-asian tournament the next to consider, then you could have 3 large scale tournaments (European, Pan-American, Afro-Asian) along with the World Cup & I feel they'd all be interesting to watch. Each association could still have it's own 'Nations League' that they link to qualifying for these larger tournaments, and then the association retain their own individual tournament. That, along with the larger tournaments, I feel you'd see a great growth in the game worldwide. The Nations League has done so much to help the smaller European nations improve, I feel as though if that happened in each continent global standards of football would really start to soar
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Post by hal on Nov 6, 2020 15:00:11 GMT
My team giving the relevant people minutes
Ward (Full 90)
Neco Lockyer Rodon Lawrence Gunter
Levitt Morrell
Jonny Matondo
Tyler
Cabango>Rodon Smith>Morrell Johnson>Jonny D.James>Matondo Sheehan>Levitt
Kieffer, Mepham, Bale, Davies, Ampadu, Wilson, Brooks should not be anywhere near this game.
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Post by dai on Nov 8, 2020 10:38:56 GMT
Do we have a bit of an issue with the LWB role if we are to play 5 at the back for all three games?
The only left sided defenders we have are B Davies and N-Davies. Some have argued that Davies cannot play a WB role, so that leaves only N-Davies to play all three games.
I'd imagine B-Davies must start against the USA because we need him for the captain role.
Although it's an interesting idea I can't see us giving D James a go at LWB, his temperament isn't there for a defensive role imo.
Roberts or Williams could play over there, but then one of those will have to play two physically demanding roles for two games on the trot.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 8, 2020 11:13:50 GMT
Do we have a bit of an issue with the LWB role if we are to play 5 at the back for all three games? The only left sided defenders we have are B Davies and N-Davies. Some have argued that Davies cannot play a WB role, so that leaves only N-Davies to play all three games. I'd imagine B-Davies must start against the USA because we need him for the captain role. Although it's an interesting idea I can't see us giving D James a go at LWB, his temperament isn't there for a defensive role imo. Roberts or Williams could play over there, but then one of those will have to play two physically demanding roles for two games on the trot. Why do you think James' defensive temperament isn't there for a defensive role but is there to play as a defensive winger, whereby he'd need to get into basically the same positions and still have Davies behind him like he would if Davies were a LB I think he could do the role as I don't really think he'd have to change much from what he already does Also Davies CAN play LWB I just think his best position is LCB
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 8, 2020 11:23:59 GMT
Ward
N.Williams Gunter Rodon Lockyer RND
Smith Morrell
Matondo T.Roberts Johnson
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Post by dai on Nov 8, 2020 12:24:24 GMT
Do we have a bit of an issue with the LWB role if we are to play 5 at the back for all three games? The only left sided defenders we have are B Davies and N-Davies. Some have argued that Davies cannot play a WB role, so that leaves only N-Davies to play all three games. I'd imagine B-Davies must start against the USA because we need him for the captain role. Although it's an interesting idea I can't see us giving D James a go at LWB, his temperament isn't there for a defensive role imo. Roberts or Williams could play over there, but then one of those will have to play two physically demanding roles for two games on the trot. Why do you think James' defensive temperament isn't there for a defensive role but is there to play as a defensive winger, whereby he'd need to get into basically the same positions and still have Davies behind him like he would if Davies were a LB I think he could do the role as I don't really think he'd have to change much from what he already does Also Davies CAN play LWB I just think his best position is LCB Well tbh, he has questionable temperament anyway - he lost his head against Finland after a tackle on J Williams and could (should?) have seen red for a terrible follow through on the Bulgarian left back in the last match. But you may be right that both roles are reasonably similar.
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Post by dai on Nov 9, 2020 10:12:52 GMT
I think I'd start Ben Davies at LB in this one, then he can revert back to LCB for a less demanding role in the Nations League games.
Would like to T Lawrence start to bring him back in to the fold.
Ward
Roberts - Lockyer - Rodon - B Davies
Smith - Morrell
Johnson - Wilson - T Lawrence
Roberts
I'd probably sub B Davies half time and bring on Gunter to captain the team, either switching with C Roberts or bringing off both Roberts and Davies for Gunter and N-Davies.
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Post by bale-droed on Nov 11, 2020 9:47:56 GMT
Is this game on s4c?
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Post by dai on Nov 11, 2020 9:51:37 GMT
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Post by TheWelshWay on Nov 11, 2020 11:18:55 GMT
My team giving the relevant people minutes Ward (Full 90) Neco Lockyer Rodon Lawrence Gunter Levitt Morrell Jonny Matondo Tyler Cabango>Rodon Smith>Morrell Johnson>Jonny D.James>Matondo Sheehan>Levitt Kieffer, Mepham, Bale, Davies, Ampadu, Wilson, Brooks should not be anywhere near this game. Wilson is suspended from the RoI match, so makes sense to play him for 90 mins in this.
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Post by hal on Nov 11, 2020 12:12:46 GMT
My team giving the relevant people minutes Ward (Full 90) Neco Lockyer Rodon Lawrence Gunter Levitt Morrell Jonny Matondo Tyler Cabango>Rodon Smith>Morrell Johnson>Jonny D.James>Matondo Sheehan>Levitt Kieffer, Mepham, Bale, Davies, Ampadu, Wilson, Brooks should not be anywhere near this game. Wilson is suspended from the RoI match, so makes sense to play him for 90 mins in this. He’s just come back from an injury playing for Cardiff. Doesn’t need to be played in a friendly that could mean he is out of Finland. Especially when we have so many options in his position.
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