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Post by abwales on Aug 11, 2018 18:57:37 GMT
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Bale
Aug 11, 2018 19:09:58 GMT
Post by manulike on Aug 11, 2018 19:09:58 GMT
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Bale
Aug 14, 2018 12:29:44 GMT
Post by rushlegend on Aug 14, 2018 12:29:44 GMT
Cristiano Ronaldo and England duo among contenders for Uefa goal of the season (BBC Football) Ronaldo's goal has been chosen ahead of Real forward Gareth Bale's spectacular overhead kick in the Champions League final win over Liverpool. WTF? That was easily goal of the season as Bale's over head kick was outside the box - UEFA biased gits yet again!!!!!
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Bale
Aug 14, 2018 12:44:45 GMT
Post by zenith on Aug 14, 2018 12:44:45 GMT
Cristiano Ronaldo and England duo among contenders for Uefa goal of the season (BBC Football) Ronaldo's goal has been chosen ahead of Real forward Gareth Bale's spectacular overhead kick in the Champions League final win over Liverpool. WTF? That was easily goal of the season as Bale's over head kick was outside the box - UEFA biased gits yet again!!!!! Incredible, in the circumstances it was the best ever goal in a Champions League game.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Aug 14, 2018 12:57:19 GMT
They had to make room for the women and futsal! Not about the best goal, but about "equality".
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Post by foxmulder on Aug 14, 2018 13:00:30 GMT
Personally, I'd say Ramsey's goal in the Europa League semi final (?) was better than both of them. He lobbed the keeper with his studs!!
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Bale
Aug 14, 2018 16:20:03 GMT
Post by melynwy on Aug 14, 2018 16:20:03 GMT
Bale's over head kick was outside the box No it wasn't. Also, Ronaldo's overhead seemed to be higher off the ground. Both goals were wonderful, and - apart from from the fact that Bale's was at the final - there's nothing conclusive to claim one as better than the other. It's certainly not incredulous enough to warrant accusations of bias nor an 'WTF' that Ronaldo's goal should be picked ahead of Bale's.
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Bale
Aug 14, 2018 16:51:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 16:51:10 GMT
Bale's over head kick was outside the box No it wasn't. Also, Ronaldo's overhead seemed to be higher off the ground. Both goals were wonderful, and - apart from from the fact that Bale's was at the final - there's nothing conclusive to claim one as better than the other. It's certainly not incredulous enough to warrant accusations of bias nor an 'WTF' that Ronaldo's goal should be picked ahead of Bale's. Yeah and I was initially annoyed but it’s bollocks - at the end of the day bale scored an immortal goal that got rid of Zidane and ronaldo at RM.
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Post by Griff105 on Aug 14, 2018 16:58:54 GMT
What a load of bollocks
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Bale
Aug 15, 2018 9:50:30 GMT
Post by 1gwaunview on Aug 15, 2018 9:50:30 GMT
If Ronaldo had farted out loud he'd have got on that list. Special entry for harmonious melody. UEFA love the arrogant so and so.
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Post by foxmulder on Aug 15, 2018 10:19:43 GMT
If Ronaldo had farted out loud he'd have got on that list. Special entry for harmonious melody. UEFA love the arrogant so and so. Ronaldo does not fart.
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Bale
Aug 15, 2018 11:20:54 GMT
Post by zenith on Aug 15, 2018 11:20:54 GMT
Let's hope Bale scores another screamer in the Super Cup final tonight!
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Bale
Aug 15, 2018 14:54:50 GMT
Post by abwales on Aug 15, 2018 14:54:50 GMT
First big game without Ronaldo. Bale needs to make an impact tonight!
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Bale
Aug 15, 2018 19:48:10 GMT
Post by iot on Aug 15, 2018 19:48:10 GMT
Great assist for Madrid's goal!
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Post by insertname on Aug 15, 2018 20:45:01 GMT
Barely had a touch apart from the cross for the goal.
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Bale
Aug 15, 2018 20:57:55 GMT
Post by foxmulder on Aug 15, 2018 20:57:55 GMT
Really? He's been very involved.
His body language is a big improvement too.
Interesting to see the whole Madrid bench jump up in anticipation for when Bale set up Arsenio. I don't remember seeing them so anticipated when Ronaldo was there.
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Bale
Aug 15, 2018 21:06:22 GMT
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Post by insertname on Aug 15, 2018 21:06:22 GMT
Really? He's been very involved. His body language is a big improvement too. Interesting to see the whole Madrid bench jump up in anticipation for when Bale set up Arsenio. I don't remember seeing them so anticipated when Ronaldo was there. The celebration seemed more 'tight-knit' but apart from the cross and the time he initially looked to be fouled (bit actually wasn't) in the D I am not sure what else he has added to the game.
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Bale
Aug 15, 2018 21:14:58 GMT
Post by iot on Aug 15, 2018 21:14:58 GMT
I agree with foxmulder, he's been their best attacker and played really well. He's made three absolutely brilliant crosses, putting it on a plate for benzema, who scored, and Asensio and Marcelo who should have socred. Also been heavily involved in the general play when Madrid have been on the ball. It's just a shame he hasn't had an opportunity to go for goal himself
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Post by alarch on Aug 15, 2018 21:29:05 GMT
Bale's hardly been involved at all in the latter stages. His movement off the ball has always disappointed me, and tonight's no exception.
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Bale
Aug 15, 2018 21:30:49 GMT
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Post by insertname on Aug 15, 2018 21:30:49 GMT
I agree with foxmulder, he's been their best attacker and played really well. He's made three absolutely brilliant crosses, putting it on a plate for benzema, who scored, and Asensio and Marcelo who should have socred. Also been heavily involved in the general play when Madrid have been on the ball. It's just a shame he hasn't had an opportunity to go for goal himself I forgot about the cross for Marcelo, although saying a full back should score from there is egging it on just a touch! If he really has been their best attacker, well...that explains why they are 4-2 down, quite frankly.
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 0:08:09 GMT
Post by pendragon on Aug 16, 2018 0:08:09 GMT
Whichever way you slice it, very disappointing night for Real last night 😡 Just hope it's a case of, "you win some, you lose some" for Bale. But even the holy Ronaldo doesn't score in every game!
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 7:19:38 GMT
Post by foxmulder on Aug 16, 2018 7:19:38 GMT
I still think the criticism of him during the 90 is still harsh. I will agree that he did nothing during extra time, but saying that Athletico REALLY stepped up.
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 8:22:19 GMT
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Post by insertname on Aug 16, 2018 8:22:19 GMT
I still think the criticism of him during the 90 is still harsh. I will agree that he did nothing during extra time, but saying that Athletico REALLY stepped up. I wasn't criticising, just pointing out that in their first actual competitive game without Ronaldo they haven't been looking to utilise him more than they usually do. If nobody gives him the ball he can't do anything with it.
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 10:00:23 GMT
Post by 1gwaunview on Aug 16, 2018 10:00:23 GMT
I still think the criticism of him during the 90 is still harsh. I will agree that he did nothing during extra time, but saying that Athletico REALLY stepped up. I wasn't criticising, just pointing out that in their first actual competitive game without Ronaldo they haven't been looking to utilise him more than they usually do. If nobody gives him the ball he can't do anything with it. Exactly, if team-mates don't pass he can't do anything. Good cross for the goal though.
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 11:33:19 GMT
Post by foxmulder on Aug 16, 2018 11:33:19 GMT
Ah OK, sorry. I thought you were going to go all Piers Morgan on him.
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 11:40:14 GMT
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Post by cymro on Aug 16, 2018 11:40:14 GMT
Thought he looked great during 90 minutes. Once it went to extra time I think real were focusing on the first game of the season, whereas winning that game probably meant more to atletico.
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 11:42:14 GMT
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Post by insertname on Aug 16, 2018 11:42:14 GMT
Ah OK, sorry. I thought you were going to go all Piers Morgan on him. No that's me with Ramsey Bale did as much as he could I thought. Benzema still had a bit to do but the cross was practically on his nose, brilliant accuracy. Good ball in to Marcelo, a bit unfortunate with the long ball to him from Modric, apart from that I'm struggling with his contribution. I would have thought that Real might play through him more without Ronaldo, especially as he was scoring goals in pre-season yet when it came to the crunch he was left on the periphery again. Maybe his movement needs some work? It also probably doesn't help that Marcelo's attacking nature means that he often links the defence with attack on the other side of the pitch, if he played on the same side as Bale the situation would be much improved.
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 11:46:38 GMT
Post by alarch on Aug 16, 2018 11:46:38 GMT
Last night's performance was in so many respects vintage Bale. Capable of lung-busting runs, assists, and moments of brilliance. But equally, large sections of the game passed him by. The easy criticism is to say that his team-mates aren't passing to him, but although there may be an element of truth to this I also think there is a flaw in Bale's game. His movement off the ball whether Real Madrid are on the offence, or defensively, is pretty poor. Defensively, he's very reactive rather than pro-active - hard to believe that he was ever considered a defender (then again Spurs' terrible run results-wise when Bale played at left-back is perhaps telling). As a consequence a lot of his defensive efforts are too little and too late. But it's lack of movement off the ball in attack that disappoints the most. Which begs the question, why would his teammates pass to him if he doesn't do enough to get away from his markers?
Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on Bale. That may be down to frustration - because for me in so many respects he's up there with the very best in the world. Explosive pace, tick, technical ability tick, goalscoring and assist making capability tick. But then he falls short on pretty mundane things like work-rate.
I don't expect things to change for Bale - he will continue to do exceptional things from time to time, and he'll continue to flatter to deceive. I think we'll look back on his career as a great one, but perhaps not quite as great as his talent would suggest he's capable of.
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 12:15:46 GMT
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Post by insertname on Aug 16, 2018 12:15:46 GMT
Last night's performance was in so many respects vintage Bale. Capable of lung-busting runs, assists, and moments of brilliance. But equally, large sections of the game passed him by. The easy criticism is to say that his team-mates aren't passing to him, but although there may be an element of truth to this I also think there is a flaw in Bale's game. His movement off the ball whether Real Madrid are on the offence, or defensively, is pretty poor. Defensively, he's very reactive rather than pro-active - hard to believe that he was ever considered a defender (then again Spurs' terrible run results-wise when Bale played at left-back is perhaps telling). As a consequence a lot of his defensive efforts are too little and too late. But it's lack of movement off the ball in attack that disappoints the most. Which begs the question, why would his teammates pass to him if he doesn't do enough to get away from his markers? Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on Bale. That may be down to frustration - because for me in so many respects he's up there with the very best in the world. Explosive pace, tick, technical ability tick, goalscoring and assist making capability tick. But then he falls short on pretty mundane things like work-rate. I don't expect things to change for Bale - he will continue to do exceptional things from time to time, and he'll continue to flatter to deceive. I think we'll look back on his career as a great one, but perhaps not quite as great as his talent would suggest he's capable of. If his movement was that much of a problem though you would think that is entirely fixable and it would be a priority to fix it for someone who has so many other abilities in his favour, so why has nobody got him by the scruff of the neck and drilled it into him to get more involved?
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Bale
Aug 16, 2018 12:18:06 GMT
Post by iot on Aug 16, 2018 12:18:06 GMT
Last night's performance was in so many respects vintage Bale. Capable of lung-busting runs, assists, and moments of brilliance. But equally, large sections of the game passed him by. The easy criticism is to say that his team-mates aren't passing to him, but although there may be an element of truth to this I also think there is a flaw in Bale's game. His movement off the ball whether Real Madrid are on the offence, or defensively, is pretty poor. Defensively, he's very reactive rather than pro-active - hard to believe that he was ever considered a defender (then again Spurs' terrible run results-wise when Bale played at left-back is perhaps telling). As a consequence a lot of his defensive efforts are too little and too late. But it's lack of movement off the ball in attack that disappoints the most. Which begs the question, why would his teammates pass to him if he doesn't do enough to get away from his markers? Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on Bale. That may be down to frustration - because for me in so many respects he's up there with the very best in the world. Explosive pace, tick, technical ability tick, goalscoring and assist making capability tick. But then he falls short on pretty mundane things like work-rate. I don't expect things to change for Bale - he will continue to do exceptional things from time to time, and he'll continue to flatter to deceive. I think we'll look back on his career as a great one, but perhaps not quite as great as his talent would suggest he's capable of. While I agree with some of those points, I do think you're misunderstanding his role slightly. Ronaldo would often go through games without doing hardly anything other than score a couple of tap-ins. He provided the decisive moments without doing much by way of general play. Bale is the same sort of player, creating three opportunities with pinpoint crossing. I do agree with you however that his movement should be better and is what seperates him from Ronaldo, although I don't think it's as bad as you suggest.
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