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Post by gwernybwch on Aug 9, 2016 8:52:30 GMT
richierich333 As I see it the Attoloyah isn't purely related to Cardiff City. I've given examples of Cardiff fans expecting non-Cardiff players to do it. I've seen a Welsh rugby player, South Glamorgan cricket player do it, Barry born Olympians do it. It might have started off as something as purely to do with Cardiff City, but now it seems that when anybody from South Glamorgan wishes to celebrate something (sporting wise), the Attoloyah is expected to and / or is done. Conversely when was the last time that someone from outside of South Glamorgan did it? I would say the chances are never. Therefore I see if as much more a regional thing now and he - as a West Glamorgan boy - was expecting to do a motion which celebrates South Glamorgan. It would be akin to a Yorkshire man playing in Manchester doing something which celebrated Lancashire.
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Post by bracklablue72 on Aug 9, 2016 9:47:01 GMT
richierich333 As I see it the Attoloyah isn't purely related to Cardiff City. I've given examples of Cardiff fans expecting non-Cardiff players to do it. I've seen a Welsh rugby player, South Glamorgan cricket player do it, Barry born Olympians do it. It might have started off as something as purely to do with Cardiff City, but now it seems that when anybody from South Glamorgan wishes to celebrate something (sporting wise), the Attoloyah is expected to and / or is done. Conversely when was the last time that someone from outside of South Glamorgan did it? I would say the chances are never. Therefore I see if as much more a regional thing now and he - as a West Glamorgan boy - was expecting to do a motion which celebrates South Glamorgan. It would be akin to a Yorkshire man playing in Manchester doing something which celebrated Lancashire. With all due respect mate you have no point here whatsoever. It is a Cardiff city thing always has been and if it upsets his 'west Glamorgan ' sensibilities (Swansea) then that says far more about the area he's from than anything negative that can be pinned on 'south glamorgan' (cardiff) people surely?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 10:17:40 GMT
richierich333 As I see it the Attoloyah isn't purely related to Cardiff City. I've given examples of Cardiff fans expecting non-Cardiff players to do it. I've seen a Welsh rugby player, South Glamorgan cricket player do it, Barry born Olympians do it. It might have started off as something as purely to do with Cardiff City, but now it seems that when anybody from South Glamorgan wishes to celebrate something (sporting wise), the Attoloyah is expected to and / or is done. Conversely when was the last time that someone from outside of South Glamorgan did it? I would say the chances are never. Therefore I see if as much more a regional thing now and he - as a West Glamorgan boy - was expecting to do a motion which celebrates South Glamorgan. It would be akin to a Yorkshire man playing in Manchester doing something which celebrated Lancashire. With all due respect mate you have no point here whatsoever. It is a Cardiff city thing always has been and if it upsets his 'west Glamorgan ' sensibilities (Swansea) then that says far more about the area he's from than anything negative that can be pinned on 'south glamorgan' (cardiff) people surely? We have had none of this Cardiff / Swansea shit on here for years, real Wales fans don't give a flying fuck about your club rivalry and don't want to see it on here or at the games. When following Wales I mingle with fans from all clubs (in fact fans of other Welsh clubs (Cardiff included) have even come to Euro away games with me to support my team) without any mither or bitching. Not fucking interested in this shit, confine it to history, my last say on this matter and if this is a portent of things to come on this board following a bit of success I think i'll just fuck off.
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 9, 2016 10:24:52 GMT
With all due respect mate you have no point here whatsoever. It is a Cardiff city thing always has been and if it upsets his 'west Glamorgan ' sensibilities (Swansea) then that says far more about the area he's from than anything negative that can be pinned on 'south glamorgan' (cardiff) people surely? We have had none of this Cardiff / Swansea shit on here for years, real Wales fans don't give a flying fuck about your club rivalry and don't want to see it on here or at the games. When following Wales I mingle with fans from all clubs (in fact fans of other Welsh clubs (Cardiff included) have even come to Euro away games with me to support my team) without any mither or bitching. Not fucking interested in this shit, confine it to history, my last say on this matter and if this is a portent of things to come on this board following a bit of success I think i'll just fuck off. Just a difference of opinion on a specific match involving a Welsh player, It's hardly a Cardiff v Swansea bust up. I like ALL the Welsh clubs and always have. I am from Cardiff but want Swansea to do well. I am entitled to comment on this and so is everyone else. I haven't seen any malicious comments as yet.
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Post by bracklablue72 on Aug 9, 2016 10:29:20 GMT
With all due respect mate you have no point here whatsoever. It is a Cardiff city thing always has been and if it upsets his 'west Glamorgan ' sensibilities (Swansea) then that says far more about the area he's from than anything negative that can be pinned on 'south glamorgan' (cardiff) people surely? We have had none of this Cardiff / Swansea shit on here for years, real Wales fans don't give a flying fuck about your club rivalry and don't want to see it on here or at the games. When following Wales I mingle with fans from all clubs (in fact fans of other Welsh clubs (Cardiff included) have even come to Euro away games with me to support my team) without any mither or bitching. Not fucking interested in this shit, confine it to history, my last say on this matter and if this is a portent of things to come on this board following a bit of success I think i'll just fuck off. Hang on a minute.. I've been defending my club from people spuriously attacking it over the point in question. I've got no time for the inter club bollocks particularly with regards to the national side, but I'm not going to roll over and accept some of this criticism when it's uncalled for.. I'm sure you'd feel the same if it were your football club friend. I'm happy to let this go as I see no mileage in this whatsoever neither
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Post by gwernybwch on Aug 9, 2016 10:32:13 GMT
richierich333 As I see it the Attoloyah isn't purely related to Cardiff City. I've given examples of Cardiff fans expecting non-Cardiff players to do it. I've seen a Welsh rugby player, South Glamorgan cricket player do it, Barry born Olympians do it. It might have started off as something as purely to do with Cardiff City, but now it seems that when anybody from South Glamorgan wishes to celebrate something (sporting wise), the Attoloyah is expected to and / or is done. Conversely when was the last time that someone from outside of South Glamorgan did it? I would say the chances are never. Therefore I see if as much more a regional thing now and he - as a West Glamorgan boy - was expecting to do a motion which celebrates South Glamorgan. It would be akin to a Yorkshire man playing in Manchester doing something which celebrated Lancashire. With all due respect mate you have no point here whatsoever. It is a Cardiff city thing always has been and if it upsets his 'west Glamorgan ' sensibilities (Swansea) then that says far more about the area he's from than anything negative that can be pinned on 'south glamorgan' (cardiff) people surely?
My point was I thought that it is strange that Cardiff fans are kicking off that a player didn't do a motion which is associated with SE Wales / South Glamorgan but at the same time it was disrespecting the club and it's players. I thought that the ayatollah had moved on from being something which was purely related to the club and was now related to the region.
OK if several posters are suggesting it is, it must be purely a Cardiff City thing then. Although I still find it strange that if it is purely a football CLUB thing that Rugby players, Cricketers, Darts Players and Swimmers all do it.
Which then brings me onto another point. Danny Gabbidon has openly done a motion which is purely associated with a club side, when he was still a Welsh international, at half-time at a Wales game. I wonder why that didn't get people phoning to 'call Rob' at BBC Wales or an article on WoL?
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Post by bracklablue72 on Aug 9, 2016 10:39:51 GMT
With all due respect mate you have no point here whatsoever. It is a Cardiff city thing always has been and if it upsets his 'west Glamorgan ' sensibilities (Swansea) then that says far more about the area he's from than anything negative that can be pinned on 'south glamorgan' (cardiff) people surely?
My point was I thought that it is strange that Cardiff fans are kicking off that a player didn't do a motion which is associated with SE Wales / South Glamorgan but at the same time it was disrespecting the club and it's players. I thought that the ayatollah had moved on from being something which was purely related to the club and was now related to the region.
OK if several posters are suggesting it is, it must be purely a Cardiff City thing then. Although I still find it strange that if it is purely a football CLUB thing that Rugby players, Cricketers, Darts Players and Swimmers all do it.
Which then brings me onto another point. Danny Gabbidon has openly done a motion which is purely associated with a club side, when he was still a Welsh international, at half-time at a Wales game. I wonder why that didn't get people phoning to 'call Rob' at BBC Wales or an article on WoL?
As I said above , I'm willing to let this go, this is going nowhere really. One final point , it is a Cardiff city thing. Other sportsmen who support Cardiff have also done it, David Davies, Gareth Thomas etc.. Showing their affiliation to the football club they support I guess.. You'd have to ask them . A healthy debate on the whole though which given the potential route this could have gone down (and considering the route it would have gone down ten years ago perhaps) , a sign of how the inter club rivalry thing has been largely replaced with a bit of respect. Cheers
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Post by squatter1 on Aug 9, 2016 11:16:46 GMT
So it's a parody of a Shia muslim expression of grief? Lucky ISIS are Shiites, or else I'd be a bit worried about going to watch Cardiff at the CCS.
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Post by Over the hill on Aug 9, 2016 11:26:12 GMT
With all due respect mate you have no point here whatsoever. It is a Cardiff city thing always has been and if it upsets his 'west Glamorgan ' sensibilities (Swansea) then that says far more about the area he's from than anything negative that can be pinned on 'south glamorgan' (cardiff) people surely?
My point was I thought that it is strange that Cardiff fans are kicking off that a player didn't do a motion which is associated with SE Wales / South Glamorgan but at the same time it was disrespecting the club and it's players. I thought that the ayatollah had moved on from being something which was purely related to the club and was now related to the region.
OK if several posters are suggesting it is, it must be purely a Cardiff City thing then. Although I still find it strange that if it is purely a football CLUB thing that Rugby players, Cricketers, Darts Players and Swimmers all do it.
Which then brings me onto another point. Danny Gabbidon has openly done a motion which is purely associated with a club side, when he was still a Welsh international, at half-time at a Wales game. I wonder why that didn't get people phoning to 'call Rob' at BBC Wales or an article on WoL?
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Post by CymruFach on Aug 9, 2016 12:31:42 GMT
My point was I thought that it is strange that Cardiff fans are kicking off that a player didn't do a motion which is associated with SE Wales / South Glamorgan but at the same time it was disrespecting the club and it's players. I thought that the ayatollah had moved on from being something which was purely related to the club and was now related to the region.
OK if several posters are suggesting it is, it must be purely a Cardiff City thing then. Although I still find it strange that if it is purely a football CLUB thing that Rugby players, Cricketers, Darts Players and Swimmers all do it.
Which then brings me onto another point. Danny Gabbidon has openly done a motion which is purely associated with a club side, when he was still a Welsh international, at half-time at a Wales game. I wonder why that didn't get people phoning to 'call Rob' at BBC Wales or an article on WoL?
As I said above , I'm willing to let this go, this is going nowhere really. One final point , it is a Cardiff city thing. Other sportsmen who support Cardiff have also done it, David Davies, Gareth Thomas etc.. Showing their affiliation to the football club they support I guess.. You'd have to ask them . A healthy debate on the whole though which given the potential route this could have gone down (and considering the route it would have gone down ten years ago perhaps) , a sign of how the inter club rivalry thing has been largely replaced with a bit of respect. Cheers You're keen to let it go??? there would be no issue if CCFC hadn't moaned about it initially, and now keep going on about it. no way has he disrespected the club by not doing this guesture. If he was to do the swim away that would be disrespectful. Its only CCFC fans (some) and possibly some media that are going on about this. Everyone else has moved on.
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Post by bracklablue72 on Aug 9, 2016 12:35:03 GMT
As I said above , I'm willing to let this go, this is going nowhere really. One final point , it is a Cardiff city thing. Other sportsmen who support Cardiff have also done it, David Davies, Gareth Thomas etc.. Showing their affiliation to the football club they support I guess.. You'd have to ask them . A healthy debate on the whole though which given the potential route this could have gone down (and considering the route it would have gone down ten years ago perhaps) , a sign of how the inter club rivalry thing has been largely replaced with a bit of respect. Cheers You're keen to let it go??? there would be no issue if CCFC hadn't moaned about it initially, and now keep going on about it. no way has he disrespected the club by not doing this guesture. If he was to do the swim away that would be disrespectful. Its only CCFC fans (some) and possibly some media that are going on about this. Everyone else has moved on. Wtf? You are clearly the one not letting it go.. One last time...ayatollah , a non offensive action to any other club... Purely about CCFC .. Swim away, an offensive action aimed at another club. Do you get it? Your analogy is shit
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 9, 2016 13:12:46 GMT
As I said above , I'm willing to let this go, this is going nowhere really. One final point , it is a Cardiff city thing. Other sportsmen who support Cardiff have also done it, David Davies, Gareth Thomas etc.. Showing their affiliation to the football club they support I guess.. You'd have to ask them . A healthy debate on the whole though which given the potential route this could have gone down (and considering the route it would have gone down ten years ago perhaps) , a sign of how the inter club rivalry thing has been largely replaced with a bit of respect. Cheers You're keen to let it go??? there would be no issue if CCFC hadn't moaned about it initially, and now keep going on about it. no way has he disrespected the club by not doing this guesture. If he was to do the swim away that would be disrespectful. Its only CCFC fans (some) and possibly some media that are going on about this. Everyone else has moved on. I don't think that is a fair comparison tbh as the swimming one is directed at cardiff and the incident from which it stems involved cardiff fans fleeing swansea fans. Doing the ayatollah wouldn't have directed hostility towards any club or their fans. In a sense it is a harmless ritual and as I said in the previous post Leggy and Bowen did not have an issue with this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 13:38:19 GMT
Guys, let's keep this forum classy. No place for any Swans-Bluebirds bickering on here. We're all Welsh supporters and that's all that matters.
This is a bullshit story from the weekend stirred up by shallow and divisive people. Don't sink to their level and indulge this anymore. Let this thread die a death!!
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Post by gwernybwch on Aug 9, 2016 18:18:37 GMT
My point was I thought that it is strange that Cardiff fans are kicking off that a player didn't do a motion which is associated with SE Wales / South Glamorgan but at the same time it was disrespecting the club and it's players. I thought that the ayatollah had moved on from being something which was purely related to the club and was now related to the region.
OK if several posters are suggesting it is, it must be purely a Cardiff City thing then. Although I still find it strange that if it is purely a football CLUB thing that Rugby players, Cricketers, Darts Players and Swimmers all do it.
Which then brings me onto another point. Danny Gabbidon has openly done a motion which is purely associated with a club side, when he was still a Welsh international, at half-time at a Wales game. I wonder why that didn't get people phoning to 'call Rob' at BBC Wales or an article on WoL?
As I said above , I'm willing to let this go, this is going nowhere really. If Emyr Huws signs I hope that he realises that he has to do the Attollyah! insidecardiffcity.co.uk/bluebirds-linked-another-welsh-international/Note to MYSELF: What is the tune from Disney's Frozen - Let it go, let it go..... ;-)
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 10, 2016 7:25:45 GMT
I am glad that we are signing more Welsh players and FINALLY playing Declan John. I think we can all agree that want the core of our Welsh club squads to be Welsh. If Tommy O Sullivan breaks through as well as signing Huws we could have 4 or 5 Welsh players in the starting XI again.
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Post by manulike on Feb 10, 2017 22:03:37 GMT
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Post by zenith on Feb 13, 2017 10:53:38 GMT
Although he's not a firm favourite of the fans, I've no doubt that he will start if we stay in a back 5 - it'll be nailed on if he gets a run of games for Villa. If we change to a 4 that's the only reason he'd miss out in my opinion. A quick Neil Taylor fact - he's played 19 out of the 20 competitive games we've had since the start of the 2014/15 campaign; that's pretty good going. The only one he missed was Andorra at home when other players like Jonny Williams, Vaughan and Lawrence were given a chance. That's not to say Jazz Richards has been poor in that time for Wales to not push Taylor/Gunter out by any means, in fact there's an argument to say he's been the best wing back for Wales when he was given the chance.
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 13, 2017 11:07:02 GMT
Jazz has put in some good performances for Wales...and lets not forget that pin point cross for Bale's late headed winner in Cyprus.
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Post by eppingblue on Feb 13, 2017 11:23:50 GMT
Fair play to Jazz after a few indifferent performances and one very poor show, he's got his head down and is starting to perform for us. I'd still go with Taylor though if only on the strength of the Euros. But its what we need, those in the starting line up knowing that there's playing waiting for their opportunity.
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Post by cadno on Sept 3, 2017 8:42:43 GMT
Played well last night, he was unlucky to go off at half time but we needed to make the change. Nice one Jazz!!
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Post by hookd on Sept 3, 2017 10:12:09 GMT
Played well last night, he was unlucky to go off at half time but we needed to make the change. Nice one Jazz!! We have no alternative and he gives 100% but Gunter was a prominent weak link in the first half last night. Austria constantly targeted and got joy down his flank.
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 3, 2017 13:20:21 GMT
Played well last night, he was unlucky to go off at half time but we needed to make the change. Nice one Jazz!! We have no alternative and he gives 100% but Gunter was a prominent weak link in the first half last night. Austria constantly targeted and got joy down his flank. I felt they targeted that side more as well, however that may be because that was the side Arnautovic was playing?
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Post by manulike on Sept 3, 2017 18:34:28 GMT
Agree that Jazz had a good game. Gunter, especially in the second half looked like a man possessed - he gave every last ounce of energy he had out there. I like your new avatar, fiveattheback
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Post by alarch on Sept 3, 2017 19:42:34 GMT
Jazz was one of the very few in the first half that respected the need to retain possession. Even Davies resorted to far too many hoofs up to Vokes for my liking.
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 3, 2017 19:56:16 GMT
Yep another vote here for Jazz being one of our better players first half. Unlucky to go off but necessary to facilitate the formation change.
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Post by welwyn on Sept 3, 2017 20:57:46 GMT
Really should have been pushed into midfield during that first half once it became obvious we were badly outnumbered in there.
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Post by iot on Sept 3, 2017 21:00:00 GMT
Really should have been pushed into midfield during that first half once it became obvious we were badly outnumbered in there. He was moved to the wing after 35 mins
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Sept 3, 2017 21:00:06 GMT
Great little player.
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Post by welwyn on Sept 3, 2017 21:04:13 GMT
Really should have been pushed into midfield during that first half once it became obvious we were badly outnumbered in there. He was moved to the wing after 35 mins But central. Basically I would have put him where King started the 2nd half
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Post by majorraglan on Sept 3, 2017 21:28:39 GMT
I thought he was neat and tidy and that he used the ball well. Unfortunately the system wasn't working and he made way for a tactical change.
Didn't hear the interview on sky, but heard him speaks no before and he seems like a tidy guy.
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