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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 27, 2018 20:49:32 GMT
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Post by larslagerback on Dec 27, 2018 23:48:42 GMT
Hope his move goes better than Can's.
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Post by robin1864 on Dec 28, 2018 18:11:20 GMT
PSG reported to try and sign him in January. I've read he isn't too keen on Saint Germain and that Inter are also unlikely due to his wage demands. That leaves Juventus.... So in reality, Everton/Liverpool or United.
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Post by manulike on Dec 29, 2018 16:31:37 GMT
I HAVE FAITH ... And so does Emery, or so it appears ;-)
Starts, together with Iwobi ...
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Post by Albert on Dec 29, 2018 17:24:04 GMT
I HAVE FAITH ... And so does Emery, or so it appears ;-)
Starts, together with Iwobi ...
And captain !
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Post by ontheroadagain on Dec 29, 2018 18:22:15 GMT
I hope that Ramsey will not get the blame for Arsenal losing 4-1 at half time.
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Post by larslagerback on Dec 29, 2018 19:53:47 GMT
I hope that Ramsey will not get the blame for Arsenal losing 4-1 at half time. He shouldn't do. He was merely one of a piss poor collective.
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Post by chislenko on Dec 29, 2018 22:06:44 GMT
Didn't offer much.
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Post by zenith on Dec 31, 2018 12:59:23 GMT
Move to Juventus in the summer is as good as done according to Italian reports
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Post by fiveattheback on Dec 31, 2018 15:52:28 GMT
B-b-but I thought he was going to end up at West Ham/Bournemouth/Everton etc
Brilliant Rambo
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Post by ontheroadagain on Dec 31, 2018 16:41:01 GMT
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Post by iot on Dec 31, 2018 17:31:48 GMT
So all the best clubs in Europe are after him. It just goes to show that he is rated far higher by experts within the game - the managers, than by your average layman - the fans
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Post by insertname on Dec 31, 2018 19:26:34 GMT
Nobody rates him, and after an underwhelming performance against a quality side on Saturday it's not hard to see why. I guess for the club's mentioned he might make a 'bargain' signing as a squad player - no fee, just pay his wages and some signing on bunce. It says it all though that none of them want to test Arsenal's resolve with a multi-million pound offer to guarantee his signing now. If they can't agree a pre-contract deal they will shrug their shoulders and move on and not lose any sleep over it.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 1, 2019 16:39:31 GMT
Ramsey goal.
Shop window wide open.
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Post by manulike on Jan 1, 2019 16:40:41 GMT
Super sub to the rescue ;-) Only on the field for 4 minutes
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Post by cantonwelsh79 on Jan 1, 2019 16:40:49 GMT
Booed onto the pitch today apparently. Then scores.
Needs to get away from Arsenal- feel he's gone a bit stale there, a fresh challenge will do him good.
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Post by iot on Jan 1, 2019 22:04:11 GMT
From what I read, it was more abut booing the substitution i.e. bringing off a striker for a midfielder when the fans wanted to go for it.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 4, 2019 12:21:10 GMT
*reads scores while sipping his macchiato*
Hmmm Bournemouth 0 - 0 Everton
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Post by manulike on Jan 4, 2019 12:38:01 GMT
Is there an Un-Like button ... I do not like that ;-(((
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Post by ontheroadagain on Jan 4, 2019 17:44:58 GMT
Is there an Un-Like button ... I do not like that ;-((( No.
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Post by manulike on Jan 5, 2019 17:44:27 GMT
Aaron almost broke the goal post with a thunderbolt free kick from 20 yards that got turned in. I assume that only counts as an assist ;-)
There are 6000 Gooners in the stadium that have been serenading Aaron for the last forty five minutes ;-))
He's been playing in the centre of a back three. I seem to recall some one on here saying that he can't defend ;-))
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 5, 2019 23:41:06 GMT
Booed onto the pitch today apparently. Then scores. Needs to get away from Arsenal- feel he's gone a bit stale there, a fresh challenge will do him good. Arsenal fans are like spoilt children who don't deserve anything nice, but there's a lot of truth in what insertname has said regarding big clubs having no desire to bid for him. He'll be a benchwarmer at Juve, with Pjanic, Can and their young star Bentancur all ahead of him. It'll end up like when Mexicans celebrated Javier Hernandez's transfer to United, only to be Rooney & van Persie's bitch, and apostles will call Juve fans and coaches blind for not seeing what he brings to their club. Where he goes is anyone's guess, but my prediction is because he's a decent player with a few years CL experience, he'll have a handful of appearances at his club before being sold in a loan-to-transfer agreement for a straight up profit; he's essentially a free £20-30m investment for his next club.
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Post by pendragon on Jan 6, 2019 1:04:11 GMT
Booed onto the pitch today apparently. Then scores. Needs to get away from Arsenal- feel he's gone a bit stale there, a fresh challenge will do him good. Arsenal fans are like spoilt children who don't deserve anything nice, but there's a lot of truth in what insertname has said regarding big clubs having no desire to bid for him. Hey, that's no way to talk about manulike and myself He's had some wonderful moments and some not so-good moments. He was disappointing against Liverpool, as were the rest of the team. A friend of mine asked what on earth were Arsenal doing during that game and I hadn't a clue myself. As an Arsenal and Wales fan, I'm rather conflicted about what happens from hereon in. The selfish, Arsenal fan within me wants him to stay. The other Wales-centric side of me would rather he leave and mount a fresh challenge elsewhere. He's been at Arsenal for over ten years, he's recently effectively been "demoted" after several breakdowns in negotiations and now we are in January where pre-contract negotiations with other clubs can effectively begin, I wouldn't be surprised if he's perhaps lost some enthusiasm along the way. Like his soon-to-be fellow Wales CL counterpart, he's at a club where his role may have become somewhat stagnant over the years. But let's look at the positives here, if the Juventus move materialises, we will soon have two Wales internationals at European CL clubs. And he will be at a club where he will need to prove his worth week-in, week-out, not settle for relegated sub status. Maybe this will work out for the better.
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Post by cadno on Jan 6, 2019 9:44:44 GMT
Interesting from Tosh: www.football-italia.net/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.football-italia.net%2F132896%2Ftoshack-my-advice-ramsey#article/footballitalia-132896“I don’t know if Aaron is disciplined enough to play in front of the defence. I am also not sure he scores enough to play close to the strikers. “He might do better in a three-man midfield, where he has the possibility to push forward, or perhaps in a three supporting the centre-forward. In modern football you do need to be versatile and he is a modern player.” “He has a unique opportunity to play with Cristiano Ronaldo, to grow, to improve, and that’s a lucky break for a lad who hasn’t had much luck,” “It’s crucial that Aaron doesn’t make the same mistake that Bale did at Madrid. He needs to learn the local language straight away. That might also be why it’s best he join Juve in the summer and not in January."
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Post by iot on Jan 6, 2019 10:33:59 GMT
Booed onto the pitch today apparently. Then scores. Needs to get away from Arsenal- feel he's gone a bit stale there, a fresh challenge will do him good. Arsenal fans are like spoilt children who don't deserve anything nice, but there's a lot of truth in what insertname has said regarding big clubs having no desire to bid for him.He'll be a benchwarmer at Juve, with Pjanic, Can and their young star Bentancur all ahead of him. It'll end up like when Mexicans celebrated Javier Hernandez's transfer to United, only to be Rooney & van Persie's bitch, and apostles will call Juve fans and coaches blind for not seeing what he brings to their club. Where he goes is anyone's guess, but my prediction is because he's a decent player with a few years CL experience, he'll have a handful of appearances at his club before being sold in a loan-to-transfer agreement for a straight up profit; he's essentially a free £20-30m investment for his next club. Nope, there's not much truth in that whatsoever - it's just baseless speculation as per usual. It's well-documented that Arsenal have decided they're not going to let him go until the summer, take this from the bbc for example: "Ramsey might have been open to departing in January, however Arsenal feel his relative value to the squad for the rest of the season is greater than what they could recoup through a transfer fee and salary savings. Potential suitors are now unwilling to pay the sort of money that would tempt the Gunners to part with their longest-serving player mid-campaign, thought to be around £40m." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46722051So Arsenal are asking for £40m for a player available on the free in 6 months. You might fork out £40m to get a Messi in 6month early, but I doubt any club would do the same for any other player - it's essentially the same as paying £40m to loan a player for 6 months. To say he would be behind Can in Juve's pecking order is just ridiculous. It's clear that experts in the game such as the managers rate his qualities far higher than fans. It seems that some Welsh fans, who have previously stated he's an Everton/Bournemouth type player, are annoyed/embarrassed to have been shown to be talking out of their arses with all the big clubs after him, and are now trying to save face.
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Post by iot on Jan 6, 2019 10:38:18 GMT
Interesting from Tosh: www.football-italia.net/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.football-italia.net%2F132896%2Ftoshack-my-advice-ramsey#article/footballitalia-132896“I don’t know if Aaron is disciplined enough to play in front of the defence. I am also not sure he scores enough to play close to the strikers. “He might do better in a three-man midfield, where he has the possibility to push forward, or perhaps in a three supporting the centre-forward. In modern football you do need to be versatile and he is a modern player.” “He has a unique opportunity to play with Cristiano Ronaldo, to grow, to improve, and that’s a lucky break for a lad who hasn’t had much luck,” “It’s crucial that Aaron doesn’t make the same mistake that Bale did at Madrid. He needs to learn the local language straight away. That might also be why it’s best he join Juve in the summer and not in January." Yes very interesting and I largely agree. Ramsey's an all-rounder, a box to box midfielder so I think he'd be great in a midfield 3, which is why I've advocated us playing him and allen just ahead of ampadu in DM: Ampadu Ramsey Allen
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Post by cadno on Jan 6, 2019 10:45:45 GMT
Interesting from Tosh: www.football-italia.net/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.football-italia.net%2F132896%2Ftoshack-my-advice-ramsey#article/footballitalia-132896“I don’t know if Aaron is disciplined enough to play in front of the defence. I am also not sure he scores enough to play close to the strikers. “He might do better in a three-man midfield, where he has the possibility to push forward, or perhaps in a three supporting the centre-forward. In modern football you do need to be versatile and he is a modern player.” “He has a unique opportunity to play with Cristiano Ronaldo, to grow, to improve, and that’s a lucky break for a lad who hasn’t had much luck,” “It’s crucial that Aaron doesn’t make the same mistake that Bale did at Madrid. He needs to learn the local language straight away. That might also be why it’s best he join Juve in the summer and not in January." Yes very interesting and I largely agree. Ramsey's an all-rounder, a box to box midfielder so I think he'd be great in a midfield 3, which is why I've advocated us playing him and allen just ahead of ampadu in DM: Ampadu Ramsey Allen
I agree, give him a bit of freedom in a midfield 3. The prospect of him learning from Ronaldo is exciting.
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Post by insertname on Jan 6, 2019 12:14:27 GMT
Arsenal fans are like spoilt children who don't deserve anything nice, but there's a lot of truth in what insertname has said regarding big clubs having no desire to bid for him.He'll be a benchwarmer at Juve, with Pjanic, Can and their young star Bentancur all ahead of him. It'll end up like when Mexicans celebrated Javier Hernandez's transfer to United, only to be Rooney & van Persie's bitch, and apostles will call Juve fans and coaches blind for not seeing what he brings to their club. Where he goes is anyone's guess, but my prediction is because he's a decent player with a few years CL experience, he'll have a handful of appearances at his club before being sold in a loan-to-transfer agreement for a straight up profit; he's essentially a free £20-30m investment for his next club. Nope, there's not much truth in that whatsoever - it's just baseless speculation as per usual. It's well-documented that Arsenal have decided they're not going to let him go until the summer, take this from the bbc for example: "Ramsey might have been open to departing in January, however Arsenal feel his relative value to the squad for the rest of the season is greater than what they could recoup through a transfer fee and salary savings. Potential suitors are now unwilling to pay the sort of money that would tempt the Gunners to part with their longest-serving player mid-campaign, thought to be around £40m." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46722051So Arsenal are asking for £40m for a player available on the free in 6 months. You might fork out £40m to get a Messi in 6month early, but I doubt any club would do the same for any other player - it's essentially the same as paying £40m to loan a player for 6 months. To say he would be behind Can in Juve's pecking order is just ridiculous. It's clear that experts in the game such as the managers rate his qualities far higher than fans. It seems that some Welsh fans, who have previously stated he's an Everton/Bournemouth type player, are annoyed/embarrassed to have been shown to be talking out of their arses with all the big clubs after him, and are now trying to save face.Not necessarily, big clubs make crap signings all the time. Alex Ferguson himself signed some right belters on occasion. The big thing for me, is how much clubs are willing to pay - and in Ramsey's case the answer is: not much. The estimate I have seen of Juve's offer is between 125k and 136k per week, which is a long way short of the 200k+ he was demanding of Arsenal so he has already found that others do not rate his talents in the same way that he does.
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Post by insertname on Jan 6, 2019 12:30:59 GMT
I’m going to try and elaborate on my criticism by asking the following question: “Aaron, what have you done for Wales lately?” By my reckoning his last good game for Wales was Serbia away which was a bloody long time ago. In the period since I have been promised by various posters that he was going to destroy ROI at home in the WC and Denmark at home in the nations league (SPOILER ALERT: he didn’t). Both key games and yet Ramsey was conspicuous only by his lack of any influence on the game whatsoever. Am I right, or am I wrong? If I am right, is that good enough? I know we over-hype players to buggery quite needlessly on here and for the most part I have learned to accept it, but with Ramsey I feel it more acutely than with any other player because the Ramsey I read about on here sounds like a world beater and yet the contrast with the reality could not be starker (imo). It feels like I'm being told that the sky is purple. Some assists against Blackpool and Fulham hold no value to me, especially for such a vaunted player. That should be the basics for a player with his suggested level of talent. So from him I want to see him turn up for Wales and stand out against the likes of Man City, yet he does neither of those things consistently. Just looking at key games this season he was subbed early doors vs United and City, came on vs Chelsea at 2-2 and Arsenal went on to lose, played the whole game in Spurs comfortable Carabao cup win when Arsenal weren’t at the races. The positives seem to be his sub appearance against Tottenham that resulted in a turnaround in scoreline and Arsenal equalising against Liverpool after coming on as sub- very much a mixed bag with more bad than good and yet this is supposed to be a good season for him, according to all concerned. If Eriksen is the yardstick (quality prem player, integral to Denmark) then, for me, Ramsey is so far off Eriksen's ability and consistency it is almost an insult to make a comparison. On the whole Ramsey has had a pretty under-whelming career imo that has, since Euro 2016, petered out resulting in him playing for a hum-drum team who compete for a Europa League spot. He needs a Champions League win to justify the reputation he has on here (and ‘on here’ is the key bit as he does not seem to be held in anywhere near the same esteem elsewhere). I’ll openly admit that I’m staggered that he looks like he is going to get that chance- Juventus have obviously not been looking at any of his Wales performances during their appraisal of him! So, whilst I expect to get roundly booed for this post I feel I have at least given a coherent explanation of why I struggle to rate him, so……tell me why am I wrong? Have I set the bar too high? If that is the case I would counter that perhaps the posters on here have set it too low by making too much of his performances against the poor to average sides. A sort of flat track bully, if you like. Would we rave about an English player who scored against the dregs yet never turned up for England or put in quality performances against the best in the league? I expect we would complain about how over-rated they are…and heaven forbid such a player keeps a Welsh player out of the side! Imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if Ramsey’s English equivalent kept Ampadu out of the Chelsea team….
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 6, 2019 13:40:45 GMT
Arsenal fans are like spoilt children who don't deserve anything nice, but there's a lot of truth in what insertname has said regarding big clubs having no desire to bid for him.He'll be a benchwarmer at Juve, with Pjanic, Can and their young star Bentancur all ahead of him. It'll end up like when Mexicans celebrated Javier Hernandez's transfer to United, only to be Rooney & van Persie's bitch, and apostles will call Juve fans and coaches blind for not seeing what he brings to their club. Where he goes is anyone's guess, but my prediction is because he's a decent player with a few years CL experience, he'll have a handful of appearances at his club before being sold in a loan-to-transfer agreement for a straight up profit; he's essentially a free £20-30m investment for his next club. Nope, there's not much truth in that whatsoever - it's just baseless speculation as per usual. It's well-documented that Arsenal have decided they're not going to let him go until the summer, take this from the bbc for example: "Ramsey might have been open to departing in January, however Arsenal feel his relative value to the squad for the rest of the season is greater than what they could recoup through a transfer fee and salary savings. Potential suitors are now unwilling to pay the sort of money that would tempt the Gunners to part with their longest-serving player mid-campaign, thought to be around £40m." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46722051So Arsenal are asking for £40m for a player available on the free in 6 months. You might fork out £40m to get a Messi in 6month early, but I doubt any club would do the same for any other player - it's essentially the same as paying £40m to loan a player for 6 months. To say he would be behind Can in Juve's pecking order is just ridiculous. It's clear that experts in the game such as the managers rate his qualities far higher than fans. It seems that some Welsh fans, who have previously stated he's an Everton/Bournemouth type player, are annoyed/embarrassed to have been shown to be talking out of their arses with all the big clubs after him, and are now trying to save face. He hasn't moved yet, and I did say it was my opinion, so congratulations on your reading prowess. Your talk of him only being valued by the best managers could also be bullshit if he turns out to be, like I speculated, an investment opportunity.
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