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Post by robin1864 on Sept 26, 2019 11:43:29 GMT
Flynn is finished, and if the rumours are true we'd need to pay off Norwich for him.
We need someone with a desire to get out of this division, Flynn would just see us as a nice ride into retirement.
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 26, 2019 14:06:10 GMT
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 26, 2019 14:44:23 GMT
Good news (I hope)!!!
Onwards and upwards.
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Post by iantov on Sept 26, 2019 17:05:44 GMT
Wish him and Wrexham the best of luck and hope that they can start putting a good run together and at least make the play-offs...long way to go.
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Post by manulike on Sept 26, 2019 20:12:12 GMT
Flynn is finished, and if the rumours are true we'd need to pay off Norwich for him. We need someone with a desire to get out of this division, Flynn would just see us as a nice ride into retirement. WHAT??? I DESPAIR ;-(( First you accuse us all of being worse than the English and now this.
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 26, 2019 20:29:47 GMT
If the rumours of Flynn and Pearson are true I can’t see the next 2 matches going well. Need a permanent manager ASAP.
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Post by biwmares on Sept 26, 2019 20:55:57 GMT
Been reading that ex manager Dean Keates is going to be appointed after Flynn has 2 games in charge.
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 26, 2019 21:22:10 GMT
Flynn is finished, and if the rumours are true we'd need to pay off Norwich for him. We need someone with a desire to get out of this division, Flynn would just see us as a nice ride into retirement. WHAT??? I DESPAIR ;-(( First you accuse us all of being worse than the English and now this.
He'd be fine in a scouting/youth management/DOF role, but I don't think he's up to the rough and tumble of match day management anymore, sadly. He's also not someone the current set of players would take seriously.
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Post by cadno on Sept 27, 2019 7:24:44 GMT
The man that should've had the Wales job after Tosh!
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 27, 2019 8:15:40 GMT
Old school reply!
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 27, 2019 8:49:55 GMT
Can the Wrexham fans explain what's going on this season? This could be disastrous for Welsh football
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Post by superunknown on Sept 27, 2019 9:46:50 GMT
Can the Wrexham fans explain what's going on this season? This could be disastrous for Welsh football It's been a long string of bad decisions, I'll try and summarise as best as I can. We appointed Dean Keates in the 2016-17 season after we sacked the failing Gary Mills who was determined to take us down it seemed. Dean Keates steadied the ship with his brand of boring, defensive football but ultimately made us hard to beat. The 2017-18 season we were really hard to beat, kept loads of clean sheets and were in and around the playoffs for most of the season. With 8 games left, Walsall needed a manager and Keates being a Walsall lad and used to play for them was offered the role which he took. Hard to begrudge it him really but with 8 games left we were hoping he'd at least see out the season with us, he didn't. His assistant Andy Davies took charge with a comfortable league position in the playoffs. The remaining 8 games saw some shocking results which saw us miss out on playoffs. The 2018-19 season we needed a new manager, Sam Ricketts was appointed. We had some great results and were attractive football. After around 4 months in charge, this time it was Shrewsbury who needed a new manager so naturally as we can't keep a manager Ricketts left. This is where it starts to go really wrong. Ricketts' assistant Graham Barrow had previously stated he had absolutely no desire to be a manager as he didn't like the pressures of the role. So who do we appoint as manager, you guessed it, Graham Barrow. Not sure if we actually won a game under his very brief spell at Wrexham but he left the role after about 2 months. Next after scouring the length and breadth of the UK for a new manager we found Bryan Hughes, whose only experience in management had been a brief stint at Scarborough where he was sacked. What our board saw him in was unclear to most fans. He got us to the playoffs but the writing was on the wall really. We went out in the first round of the playoffs to Eastleigh, who finished the season on a negative goal difference. Which brings us to this season. Shocking from the start tbf, no tactics, no gameplan, players downed tools, silent on the touchline, the list goes on and on. He shouldn't have been appointed in the first place so I do feel sorry for him as it's the boards fault as simply they're not footballing people. They do very good work off the field but ultimately don't know football enough. Wrexham fans are now organising an Emergency General Meeting to ask why some of the decisions have been made, like Barrow's appointment, and Hughes'. They should have been nowhere near the job. And now it looks like Keates will be coming back. Most of us aren't happy about this as the one constant in the footballing side of things is the coach Carl Darlington, who most fans believe contributes heavily towards our poor tactics. Really we need a full clear out including Flynn, Darlington and a few board members and make a fresh start. Sorry that's a bit long but gives a good idea what's going on.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 27, 2019 10:16:14 GMT
I thought that Flynn should have got the Wales job after Toshack, because of the excellent work he'd done with the youngsters. The two games he managed against Bulgaria and Switzerland were very poor performances, and it was only right even given the difficult situation we were in at the time that Speed got the job full-time, although I was doubtful then. Timeline proved it was the right decision.
Flynn did good jobs overall at both Wrexham and Swansea, but with hindsight he's probably past his sell by date now.
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 27, 2019 12:33:00 GMT
Can the Wrexham fans explain what's going on this season? This could be disastrous for Welsh football It's been a long string of bad decisions, I'll try and summarise as best as I can. We appointed Dean Keates in the 2016-17 season after we sacked the failing Gary Mills who was determined to take us down it seemed. Dean Keates steadied the ship with his brand of boring, defensive football but ultimately made us hard to beat. The 2017-18 season we were really hard to beat, kept loads of clean sheets and were in and around the playoffs for most of the season. With 8 games left, Walsall needed a manager and Keates being a Walsall lad and used to play for them was offered the role which he took. Hard to begrudge it him really but with 8 games left we were hoping he'd at least see out the season with us, he didn't. His assistant Andy Davies took charge with a comfortable league position in the playoffs. The remaining 8 games saw some shocking results which saw us miss out on playoffs. The 2018-19 season we needed a new manager, Sam Ricketts was appointed. We had some great results and were attractive football. After around 4 months in charge, this time it was Shrewsbury who needed a new manager so naturally as we can't keep a manager Ricketts left. This is where it starts to go really wrong. Ricketts' assistant Graham Barrow had previously stated he had absolutely no desire to be a manager as he didn't like the pressures of the role. So who do we appoint as manager, you guessed it, Graham Barrow. Not sure if we actually won a game under his very brief spell at Wrexham but he left the role after about 2 months. Next after scouring the length and breadth of the UK for a new manager we found Bryan Hughes, whose only experience in management had been a brief stint at Scarborough where he was sacked. What our board saw him in was unclear to most fans. He got us to the playoffs but the writing was on the wall really. We went out in the first round of the playoffs to Eastleigh, who finished the season on a negative goal difference. Which brings us to this season. Shocking from the start tbf, no tactics, no gameplan, players downed tools, silent on the touchline, the list goes on and on. He shouldn't have been appointed in the first place so I do feel sorry for him as it's the boards fault as simply they're not footballing people. They do very good work off the field but ultimately don't know football enough. Wrexham fans are now organising an Emergency General Meeting to ask why some of the decisions have been made, like Barrow's appointment, and Hughes'. They should have been nowhere near the job. And now it looks like Keates will be coming back. Most of us aren't happy about this as the one constant in the footballing side of things is the coach Carl Darlington, who most fans believe contributes heavily towards our poor tactics. Really we need a full clear out including Flynn, Darlington and a few board members and make a fresh start. Sorry that's a bit long but gives a good idea what's going on. Don't apologise that was insightful thanks. I saw the league table the other day and it shocked me as they are usually near the top without actually going up.
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 27, 2019 20:32:35 GMT
Can the Wrexham fans explain what's going on this season? This could be disastrous for Welsh football We hired a shit manager with no real experience, previously he only lasted 2 months at Scarborough much lower down before they sacked him, and in the interim he was a footgolf coach. Quite the CV, but we were told he was the stand-out candidate; a yes-man if you like. In the meantime, we've also burnt our bridges with local youth teams & "football for hope" initiatives like the Wrexham Inclusion FC team, and withdrew Wrexham Ladies from the Women's WPL. All in all, a shambles really. How would it be disastrous for Welsh football? We've only got 1 Welsh player in our starting line-up, and he's by far the worst player on the pitch - playing without a goalkeeper might actually help us keep clean sheets. Our last call-up must have been Neil Taylor, and our last youth product to get capped was 26-year old Danny Ward. Not even the Wales youth teams use us as a source anymore.
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 28, 2019 16:33:17 GMT
The Brian Flynn effect?
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 28, 2019 17:42:18 GMT
Listening to his post-match interview, us Wrexham fans almost forgot what it was like to have a "real" manager at helm.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 28, 2019 18:02:57 GMT
Listening to his post-match interview, us Wrexham fans almost forgot what it was like to have a "real" manager at helm. Wonder if he could takeover permanently given his pedigree? Perhaps he wouldn't want the job, it's becoming a poisoned chalice. I really don't know what to make of the club at the moment, and where/how we move forwards?
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 28, 2019 18:17:10 GMT
Listening to his post-match interview, us Wrexham fans almost forgot what it was like to have a "real" manager at helm. Wonder if he could takeover permanently given his pedigree? Perhaps he wouldn't want the job, it's becoming a poisoned chalice. I really don't know what to make of the club at the moment, and where/how we move forwards? After the Barrow & Hughes sagas, the job would send him to an early grave. Best not for his sake.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 6, 2019 19:38:07 GMT
Keates back in the building. Such a cucked club, always chasing the cheap option. Nothing will change.
Meanwhile, rumours of the Disabled Supporters Association being told to f**k off by the club are circulating. Community Football Club, kumbaya indeed.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 6, 2019 19:44:49 GMT
Keates back in the building. Such a cucked club, always chasing the cheap option. Nothing will change. Meanwhile, rumours of the Disabled Supporters Association being told to f**k off by the club are circulating. Community Football Club, kumbaya indeed. We are fucked, royally fucked. We're in real danger of going down, and if that happens we could go part time, lose the ground by not being able to pay the lease and possibly even go extinct. Many supporters who have remained loyal over the years have stated that they're giving up already. Our DSA were recently nominated for a National Game Award and are regarded as one of the best in the English system. It is unbelievable how this board have treated them.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 6, 2019 19:53:57 GMT
Keates back in the building. Such a cucked club, always chasing the cheap option. Nothing will change. Meanwhile, rumours of the Disabled Supporters Association being told to f**k off by the club are circulating. Community Football Club, kumbaya indeed. We are fucked, royally fucked. We're in real danger of going down, and if that happens we could go part time, lose the ground by not being able to pay the lease and possibly even go extinct. Many supporters who have remained loyal over the years have stated that they're giving up already. Our DSA were recently nominated for a National Game Award and are regarded as one of the best in the English system. It is unbelievable how this board have treated them. It's hard to believe it when the club, board, Spencer etc. bleat on about how fan-friendly we are, care in the community, inclusivity blah, blah, blah. I know a few people on the DSA who back the board to the hilt, must feel a bit night of the long knives to them with this news. On your point about the DSA winning awards, it seems success is not to be tolerated at this club anymore. They'll probably put the autistic children's zone in with the frontline wannabes next season.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 6, 2019 19:58:56 GMT
We are fucked, royally fucked. We're in real danger of going down, and if that happens we could go part time, lose the ground by not being able to pay the lease and possibly even go extinct. Many supporters who have remained loyal over the years have stated that they're giving up already. Our DSA were recently nominated for a National Game Award and are regarded as one of the best in the English system. It is unbelievable how this board have treated them. It's hard to believe it when the club, board, Spencer etc. bleat on about how fan-friendly we are, care in the community, inclusivity blah, blah, blah. I know a few people on the DSA who back the board to the hilt, must feel a bit night of the long knives to them with this news. On your point about the DSA winning awards, it seems success is not to be tolerated at this club anymore. They'll probably put the autistic children's zone in with the frontline wannabes next season. Our Dementia Champion has stepped down and the Wrexham Inclusion Team (which the club also parted ways with) have tweeted about their disgust at the club for this action. There is something really rotten going on.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 6, 2019 20:36:25 GMT
It's hard to believe it when the club, board, Spencer etc. bleat on about how fan-friendly we are, care in the community, inclusivity blah, blah, blah. I know a few people on the DSA who back the board to the hilt, must feel a bit night of the long knives to them with this news. On your point about the DSA winning awards, it seems success is not to be tolerated at this club anymore. They'll probably put the autistic children's zone in with the frontline wannabes next season. Our Dementia Champion has stepped down and the Wrexham Inclusion Team (which the club also parted ways with) have tweeted about their disgust at the club for this action. There is something really rotten going on. A lot of disgruntled academy parents & local youth teams too. The club probably need to hire a relationship manager more than anything, set aside a pot of money each year for local youth football, inclusion and community projects and begin to rebuild the bridges, it'd pay for itself in the future if the whole town was able to support the club.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 6, 2019 21:45:38 GMT
Our Dementia Champion has stepped down and the Wrexham Inclusion Team (which the club also parted ways with) have tweeted about their disgust at the club for this action. There is something really rotten going on. A lot of disgruntled academy parents & local youth teams too. The club probably need to hire a relationship manager more than anything, set aside a pot of money each year for local youth football, inclusion and community projects and begin to rebuild the bridges, it'd pay for itself in the future if the whole town was able to support the club. One of many steps to make. I think a couple of board members now find their positions untenable and we need some football knowledge on the board itself. I see they drafted in Dixie McNeil to assist with the managerial interviews, a man who's not been at a football club in donkeys years. That won't cut it.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 6, 2019 22:47:33 GMT
A lot of disgruntled academy parents & local youth teams too. The club probably need to hire a relationship manager more than anything, set aside a pot of money each year for local youth football, inclusion and community projects and begin to rebuild the bridges, it'd pay for itself in the future if the whole town was able to support the club. One of many steps to make. I think a couple of board members now find their positions untenable and we need some football knowledge on the board itself. I see they drafted in Dixie McNeil to assist with the managerial interviews, a man who's not been at a football club in donkeys years. That won't cut it. They probably had Keates in mind from the moment it became obvious Hughes wasn't going as planned. No compo, cheap and grateful for any opportunity, so I'm not entirely convinced there was a recruitment process. Then there are ex-players like Carlos, obviously aware of the jobs for the boys culture we have, touting on twitter for work from the club. Ex-players as a rule has generally served us well, but it's only useful if the person in question is a recent retirement whom the current squad know/respect. I wouldn't have minded someone like Manny being given a crack of the whip - he's well-respected within the team yet professional enough for the job. Hughes was too far removed from the team by a number of years and lacked the qualifications to get their respect. Keates will have to succeed for the board to remain in place, otherwise their days are numbered - I just hope they realise this.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 6, 2019 23:12:52 GMT
One of many steps to make. I think a couple of board members now find their positions untenable and we need some football knowledge on the board itself. I see they drafted in Dixie McNeil to assist with the managerial interviews, a man who's not been at a football club in donkeys years. That won't cut it. They probably had Keates in mind from the moment it became obvious Hughes wasn't going as planned. No compo, cheap and grateful for any opportunity, so I'm not entirely convinced there was a recruitment process. Then there are ex-players like Carlos, obviously aware of the jobs for the boys culture we have, touting on twitter for work from the club. Ex-players as a rule has generally served us well, but it's only useful if the person in question is a recent retirement whom the current squad know/respect. I wouldn't have minded someone like Manny being given a crack of the whip - he's well-respected within the team yet professional enough for the job. Hughes was too far removed from the team by a number of years and lacked the qualifications to get their respect. Keates will have to succeed for the board to remain in place, otherwise their days are numbered - I just hope they realise this. Some are predicting the board won't budge, so it could end up going to the courts. Absolute madness, what has happened to this club?
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 6, 2019 23:18:00 GMT
They probably had Keates in mind from the moment it became obvious Hughes wasn't going as planned. No compo, cheap and grateful for any opportunity, so I'm not entirely convinced there was a recruitment process. Then there are ex-players like Carlos, obviously aware of the jobs for the boys culture we have, touting on twitter for work from the club. Ex-players as a rule has generally served us well, but it's only useful if the person in question is a recent retirement whom the current squad know/respect. I wouldn't have minded someone like Manny being given a crack of the whip - he's well-respected within the team yet professional enough for the job. Hughes was too far removed from the team by a number of years and lacked the qualifications to get their respect. Keates will have to succeed for the board to remain in place, otherwise their days are numbered - I just hope they realise this. Some are predicting the board won't budge, so it could end up going to the courts. Absolute madness, what has happened to this club? I'd imagine there's a fairly straightforward way to remove board members through the constitution in a democratic way, the problem is our fans are so temperamental that they want action and they want it now. That said, the people behind the EGM bid need to come forward and make their names public, you can't preach wanting to make greater transparency from an anonymous account.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 6, 2019 23:20:19 GMT
Some are predicting the board won't budge, so it could end up going to the courts. Absolute madness, what has happened to this club? I'd imagine there's a fairly straightforward way to remove board members through the constitution in a democratic way, the problem is our fans are so temperamental that they want action and they want it now. That said, the people behind the EGM bid need to come forward and make their names public, you can't preach wanting to make greater transparency from an anonymous account. Apparently they can just say no, or they can be co-opted back onto the board. FC United are facing this very issue right now.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 6, 2019 23:32:43 GMT
I'd imagine there's a fairly straightforward way to remove board members through the constitution in a democratic way, the problem is our fans are so temperamental that they want action and they want it now. That said, the people behind the EGM bid need to come forward and make their names public, you can't preach wanting to make greater transparency from an anonymous account. Apparently they can just say no, or they can be co-opted back onto the board. FC United are facing this very issue right now. All a bit People's Front of Judea. Anyways, club statement on the DSA spat - www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/news/wst-statement-statement-regarding-wrexham-dsa-viewing-platformWhat a fucking mess. I don't care who's responsible, who's right or wrong, as a communications professional I can't believe the club are stooping to this, or the fact it's being given further oxygen.
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