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Wrexham
Dec 29, 2019 18:52:35 GMT
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Post by rob on Dec 29, 2019 18:52:35 GMT
I am not a Dean Keates fan but surely it is harder for him having to work with Andy Davies and Darlington.Walsall ditched Davies before Keates even and he was a horrendous interim manager here.Questionable how the players respect him as an ex PE teacher. Only the future of the club at stake but the Board say they have the necessary tools to run a successful club.
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Wrexham
Dec 29, 2019 22:01:34 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 29, 2019 22:01:34 GMT
I am not a Dean Keates fan but surely it is harder for him having to work with Andy Davies and Darlington.Walsall ditched Davies before Keates even and he was a horrendous interim manager here.Questionable how the players respect him as an ex PE teacher. Only the future of the club at stake but the Board say they have the necessary tools to run a successful club. Didn’t he chose to bring Davies back to Wrexham? Chose to take him to Walsall too. We desperately need experience. Not Dixie who hasn’t coached in my lifetime, or Darlington with only experience in WPL. Some proven championship coach who’s getting on a bit or something.
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Wrexham
Dec 29, 2019 22:55:43 GMT
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Post by rob on Dec 29, 2019 22:55:43 GMT
Either need to ditch Keates now or instruct him to replace Davies with a Barrow(Sorry swear word) type coach.Worked for Ricketts so well that he got him over to Shrewsbury too.Keates is in no position with his results and club league position to argue. In reality Darlington needs to go as way too powerful in terms of the playing style and formation.Ricketts seemingly stood up to him whilst Keates not so for some reason.4-5-1 against a struggling Maidenhead !
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Wrexham
Dec 30, 2019 2:15:25 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 30, 2019 2:15:25 GMT
Our players don't respect him at all, and this is far more important than anyone else in the game respecting him. Feel free to carry on living in cloud cuckoo land though. If this was fact I’d agree, but I’ve yet to read or hear anything from our players backing up your claim. Anyway more pressing matters, who do we want to see brought in in January? Jay Harris? We could do worse than Harris. Experienced heads are what is needed for a relegation dogfight.
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Post by rob on Jan 4, 2020 21:26:53 GMT
Arfon-today was ridiculously bad and Keates after match analysis are nothing short of a bad stand up routine. Time for change or we WILL GO DOWN. Only the future of the club at stake.
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 4, 2020 22:49:02 GMT
One would think Darlington & most of the backroom team have failed to achieve their SMART targets & RACI model. Any organisation with a whiff of accountability would show them the door after the farce this season has brought. Goalkeeping coaches certainly aren't up to much if Dibble's miserable performances are a measurement.
I'd give Keates a stay of execution for the time being because this season's failure is down to a squad signed almost entirely by Hughes. Going back to him was sadly an entirely predictable move by the board though, smacks a lack of ambition/risk aversion to the point where it's stifled us.
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Wrexham
Jan 5, 2020 12:33:29 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 5, 2020 12:33:29 GMT
All the bills have been paid this week, what more do people want? At least we got a team to support, ask Bury fans what they’d rather...
We’re just going through a spell of bad luck, need to get to January, Darlington is a credit to the club, the budget is up 20%
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Post by arfonprinceofwales on Jan 5, 2020 17:53:49 GMT
Arfon-today was ridiculously bad and Keates after match analysis are nothing short of a bad stand up routine. Time for change or we WILL GO DOWN. Only the future of the club at stake. Woeful. Think the only changes we are going to see is a few new signings this week and next. Big test for Keates to stamp his mark on a squad that’s not his. Then and only then he should be judged.
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Post by arfonprinceofwales on Jan 5, 2020 17:59:52 GMT
One would think Darlington & most of the backroom team have failed to achieve their SMART targets & RACI model. Any organisation with a whiff of accountability would show them the door after the farce this season has brought. Goalkeeping coaches certainly aren't up to much if Dibble's miserable performances are a measurement. I'd give Keates a stay of execution for the time being because this season's failure is down to a squad signed almost entirely by Hughes. Going back to him was sadly an entirely predictable move by the board though, smacks a lack of ambition/risk aversion to the point where it's stifled us. To be fair both Jaaskelainen and Oakes are good coaches and can’t really be blamed for Dibbles shortfalls. Jussi of course has moved back to Finland but would of worked with him last season. Keates coming back is seen as a safe bet I imagine. He “fire fighted” before picking up the pieces of Mills tenure so can understand reasoning. Long term? Not the answer.
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Post by robin1864 on Jan 6, 2020 22:47:29 GMT
Keates inherited a decent squad the first time around, it's pure dross this time. Completely different circumstances which afforded him to make a few mistakes the first time, we weren't fighting relegation for one.
Oakes has been our GK coach through the likes of Ingham, Williams, Mayebi, Coughlin and other shite, so there's not much going in his favour. Dibble should be shown the door this month so we're not wasting any more money on him, I'm genuinely convinced we could get better keepers from the likes of Brickfield & Borras.
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Post by biwmares on Mar 4, 2020 16:55:31 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Mar 4, 2020 17:34:13 GMT
It isn't good news until it's up. I don't trust any of the people featured in that article.
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Post by arfonprinceofwales on Mar 5, 2020 11:49:17 GMT
Early days, just another rung up on the ladder. Sounds very positive though, and all four parties should be commended for getting this moving along.
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Post by BA Baracus on Mar 5, 2020 12:00:50 GMT
Safe standing rather than pure all-seater I hope.
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Post by robin1864 on Mar 5, 2020 14:34:45 GMT
Early days, just another rung up on the ladder. Sounds very positive though, and all four parties should be commended for getting this moving along. We've been stepping up and down on this same rung for the past 25 years now. Whilst the Trust obviously aren't going to build a B&Q or student flats like the last owners wanted to and have done, I still won't believe any of it until I see the diggers moving in. It's groundhog day.
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Post by robin1864 on Mar 5, 2020 14:39:11 GMT
Safe standing rather than pure all-seater I hope. Also this. Would be absolute quality, in addition to being future-proofed and saving money on maintenance where we're not having to replace broken/faded plastic seating. Again though, not getting my hopes up.
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Wrexham
Mar 5, 2020 17:45:17 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Mar 5, 2020 17:45:17 GMT
Safe standing rather than pure all-seater I hope. Not in the plans apparently.
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Post by biwmares on Mar 5, 2020 20:09:32 GMT
It isn't good news until it's up. I don't trust any of the people featured in that article. Agree on both,its been going on for years & surely getting out of the National league should be the priority. It might also be that the Welsh Labour government are trying to gain some votes in North Wales given that the Welsh Arsembly elections are in May & hope to avoid a total wipe-out in the North Wales region.
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Post by BA Baracus on Mar 6, 2020 10:29:10 GMT
Safe standing rather than pure all-seater I hope. Not in the plans apparently. Shame that it's not even being considered given the direction things are going with safe standing. It would be a real opportunity to lead the way, and given there's politicians involved, you'd like to think they want to lead the way! Plus, last time I checked, the Kop is the largest remaining terrace in 'English' football.
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Wrexham
Mar 6, 2020 11:08:05 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Mar 6, 2020 11:08:05 GMT
Not in the plans apparently. Shame that it's not even being considered given the direction things are going with safe standing. It would be a real opportunity to lead the way, and given there's politicians involved, you'd like to think they want to lead the way! Plus, last time I checked, the Kop is the largest remaining terrace in 'English' football. I think a safe standing 1 tiered stand would absolutely be the way forward.
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Post by robin1864 on Mar 6, 2020 18:05:38 GMT
Shame that it's not even being considered given the direction things are going with safe standing. It would be a real opportunity to lead the way, and given there's politicians involved, you'd like to think they want to lead the way! Plus, last time I checked, the Kop is the largest remaining terrace in 'English' football. I think a safe standing 1 tiered stand would absolutely be the way forward. Multi-functional & better for the environment too, I'd imagine. Massive wasted opportunity if we don't go for it.
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Wrexham
Mar 7, 2020 13:12:29 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 7, 2020 13:12:29 GMT
Safe standing rather than pure all-seater I hope. Might be in the minority here but I’ve never understood why people want to stand at a football match, what is it people like about it? Not being funny just curious. I used to stand on the Kop until it shut, except for when I was sat on the barriers as a kid. If the kop reopened as standing only I guess I’d be standing too, but I’d rather seating. Better comfort and has been proven to be safer. I see standing as in the past when clubs cared more about fans money than their safety.
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Wrexham
Sept 14, 2020 14:53:12 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 14, 2020 14:53:12 GMT
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 14, 2020 14:58:39 GMT
NOT Alex Hamilton I hope!!
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 14, 2020 15:03:47 GMT
NOT Alex Hamilton I hope!! Some of our village idiots would happily hand over the keys to him and Gutterman if it meant getting the trust out.
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Post by iot on Sept 14, 2020 15:09:39 GMT
Is this good news though? I'm not nearly close enough to the club to have an informed opinion, but is it really a good thing that the club moves away from a fan ownership model to one that relies on wealthy individuals bankrolling the club? I appreciate the Trust have been dodgy, but isn't a fan ownership model essentially a much better, sustainable route to go down? As I say, I don't know the ins and outs of this rumoured deal and just how badly the trust have run the club, so there may be good reasons behind it!
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 14, 2020 15:13:53 GMT
Is this good news though? I'm not nearly close enough to the club to have an informed opinion, but is it really a good thing that the club moves away from a fan ownership model to one that relies on wealthy individuals bankrolling the club? I appreciate the Trust have been dodgy, but isn't a fan ownership model essentially a much better, sustainable route to go down? As I say, I don't know the ins and outs of this rumoured deal and just how badly the trust have run the club, so there may be good reasons behind it! It's the way it should be, but we'd do well to avoid having a Barca situation where leadership is essentially a popularity contest. Having it resting with a private individual has just as many risks as it does perks.
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Post by iot on Sept 14, 2020 15:20:24 GMT
Is this good news though? I'm not nearly close enough to the club to have an informed opinion, but is it really a good thing that the club moves away from a fan ownership model to one that relies on wealthy individuals bankrolling the club? I appreciate the Trust have been dodgy, but isn't a fan ownership model essentially a much better, sustainable route to go down? As I say, I don't know the ins and outs of this rumoured deal and just how badly the trust have run the club, so there may be good reasons behind it! It's the way it should be, but we'd do well to avoid having a Barca situation where leadership is essentially a popularity contest. Having it resting with a private individual has just as many risks as it does perks. Yes - it sounds to me like the issue is with how the fan ownership model is implemented, rather than having a fan ownership model in and of itself. They clearly can develop successful clubs, just look at how they do it in Germany, and it clearly does make the clubs more resilient too. I just think it's a shame if Wrexham do give up on that ideal, however badly individuals will have cocked up in recent years.
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Wrexham
Sept 14, 2020 15:43:36 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 14, 2020 15:43:36 GMT
Is this good news though? If they are legit, yes it is. Fan ownership can only take you so far and so far it has taken us damn near relegation from the National League. We just don't have the personnel or funding to succeed much further than this division right now. It is time to sell up, to the right buyers.
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Wrexham
Sept 14, 2020 15:45:07 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 14, 2020 15:45:07 GMT
It's the way it should be, but we'd do well to avoid having a Barca situation where leadership is essentially a popularity contest. Having it resting with a private individual has just as many risks as it does perks. Yes - it sounds to me like the issue is with how the fan ownership model is implemented, rather than having a fan ownership model in and of itself. They clearly can develop successful clubs, just look at how they do it in Germany, and it clearly does make the clubs more resilient too. I just think it's a shame if Wrexham do give up on that ideal, however badly individuals will have cocked up in recent years. Nobody is willing to come in to help change things. We didn't even have a proper election for the trust board because we didn't have enough candidates.
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