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Post by dai on Nov 18, 2018 21:53:49 GMT
Yeah. Don't agree with it myself. You have players like Hughes at Preston playing weekly football, why not call on someone like that? Giggs has done really well to implement so many youngsters, but we need some older seasoned heads as well.
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Post by iot on Nov 18, 2018 21:56:11 GMT
Scotland beat Albania 0-4 last night, with a host of injuries themselves. I'll be very disappointed and a bit embarrassed if we don't put a number on them as well on Tuesday. No idea what Giggs will do, as the Danish lineup was surprising and tactically naive. Ward deserves a game now, and I think J Lawrence will make his debut. Is Smith going to be back? Gunter to start at his main position RB to break the record! - Ward Gunter - Lockyer - Williams - Roberts J Lawrence - Allen Brooks - Ramsey - Wilson Bale I would be surprised if Bale starts as he was limping towards the end of the game. I also think we should give roberts a rest for this one, I think he's played every single game this season so probably needs a rest. I'd go for: Ward Gunter - Lockyer - Williams - J Lawrence King - Allen Wilson - Ramsey - Woodburn Roberts
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Post by pendragon on Nov 18, 2018 22:08:14 GMT
Yeah. Don't agree with it myself. You have players like Hughes at Preston playing weekly football, why not call on someone like that? Giggs has done really well to implement so many youngsters, but we need some older seasoned heads as well. I think we're in danger of becoming very "attack, attack, attack" minded. What we're crying out for at the moment is fortifying the defence. That said, I won't lie. I'm excited to see how he develops in our squad.
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Post by manulike on Nov 18, 2018 22:20:52 GMT
Smith played the full 90 minutes for Twente this afternoon... so no. He won't be in the squad. Neither is Ampadu.
This means a certain start for Jamie Lawrence, but even then, we still need a Lee Evans type in there. And that is with me being optimistic and assuming Allen will manage another 90 minutes.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Nov 18, 2018 23:11:17 GMT
I think Giggs formation against Albania will be 3-1-1-6.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 19, 2018 7:22:12 GMT
What’s the reason for Ampadu’s withdrawal? Can’t find a concrete explanation
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 19, 2018 8:18:49 GMT
What’s the reason for Ampadu’s withdrawal? Can’t find a concrete explanation negotiating a lone move to east midland
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 19, 2018 13:56:28 GMT
If I was picking the lineup for Albania I would go for: Ward
Freeman Williams Lawrence Gunter
King Allen
Wilson Ramsey James
Roberts
I'd also definitely give time to Woodburn, Matondo and Lockyer from the bench.
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Post by manulike on Nov 19, 2018 17:31:41 GMT
Very impressed that both Bale and Rambo are in the final 22-man squad! The lady at the FSHF shop said that the stadium is about half full, which is great news, considering the weather forecast tomorrow...
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Nov 19, 2018 18:19:50 GMT
If I was picking the lineup for Albania I would go for: Ward Freeman Williams Lawrence Gunter King Allen Wilson Ramsey James Roberts I'd also definitely give time to Woodburn, Matondo and Lockyer from the bench. Think our Ryan will go with this line-up Wayne Lawrence Gunter Allen King Wilson Woodburn Brooks Bale Matondo Roberts
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Post by iot on Nov 19, 2018 23:23:55 GMT
Just realised that we have 4 of our 5 best centre backs out injured in chester, mepham, rodon and ampadu. That doesn't give us much options!
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Post by pendragon on Nov 20, 2018 1:02:15 GMT
Nope. It looks like it'll be a case of "attack, attack, attack".
If we throw on as many wingers/ attacking mids/ forwards as we can muster, perhaps the opposition won't have time to contemplate a counter-attack so as not to cause our "defence" too many problems 😁🖒
Forget about five at the back, this will be a case of (at least) 5 in attack!! 😉
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Post by texan on Nov 20, 2018 10:18:00 GMT
What’s the reason for Ampadu’s withdrawal? Can’t find a concrete explanation Officially logged by Chelsea as injured, gone back for treatment apparently.
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Post by dai on Nov 20, 2018 11:01:54 GMT
Just realised that we have 4 of our 5 best centre backs out injured in chester, mepham, rodon and ampadu. That doesn't give us much options! Shows how finely balanced things can be in Welsh football. A month ago we were discussing how many great options we have at CB now, fast forward a month with a few injuries and the cupboard is looking bare again. Ampadu for me isn't a CB, I know he has time to develop, but after his showings for us, he looks more like a creative defensive mid.
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Post by manulike on Nov 20, 2018 11:43:17 GMT
Nope. It looks like it'll be a case of "attack, attack, attack". If we throw on as many wingers/ attacking mids/ forwards as we can muster, perhaps the opposition won't have time to contemplate a counter-attack so as not to cause our "defence" too many problems 😁🖒 Forget about five at the back, this will be a case of (at least) 5 in attack!! 😉 Love that new song. Only heard it once out in Aarhus, but it never caught on. Five in Attack With Wayne at the Back
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Post by pendragon on Nov 20, 2018 11:48:47 GMT
Nope. It looks like it'll be a case of "attack, attack, attack". If we throw on as many wingers/ attacking mids/ forwards as we can muster, perhaps the opposition won't have time to contemplate a counter-attack so as not to cause our "defence" too many problems 😁🖒 Forget about five at the back, this will be a case of (at least) 5 in attack!! 😉 Love that new song. Only heard it once out in Aarhus, but it never caught on. Five in Attack With Wayne at the Back Maybe after tonight, someone will need to re-arrange the words to... "ten in attack.... with Wayne at the back"! 😂😮
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Post by welshiron on Nov 20, 2018 12:00:50 GMT
Just realised that we have 4 of our 5 best centre backs out injured in chester, mepham, rodon and ampadu. That doesn't give us much options! Shows how finely balanced things can be in Welsh football. A month ago we were discussing how many great options we have at CB now, fast forward a month with a few injuries and the cupboard is looking bare again. Ampadu for me isn't a CB, I know he has time to develop, but after his showings for us, he looks more like a creative defensive mid. Rodon hasn't been capped I all fairness We are also without 3 left backs and Giggs calls up a right back. We don't have a left back in the squad which is unacceptable
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Post by dai on Nov 20, 2018 13:11:09 GMT
Shows how finely balanced things can be in Welsh football. A month ago we were discussing how many great options we have at CB now, fast forward a month with a few injuries and the cupboard is looking bare again. Ampadu for me isn't a CB, I know he has time to develop, but after his showings for us, he looks more like a creative defensive mid. Rodon hasn't been capped I all fairness We are also without 3 left backs and Giggs calls up a right back. We don't have a left back in the squad which is unacceptable I mentioned previously that why hasn't someone like Andrew Hughes been called up? A regular left back in the Championship. We have plenty of attacking options.
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Post by alarch on Nov 20, 2018 16:03:56 GMT
It does seem weird that Andrew Hughes hasn't been called up, given how eager Giggs has been to give players experience. He's 14 games this season, with one goal and one assist - and an average score of 7.04 on whoscored.com - which is a good score.
Is Giggs aware of Hughes? Has he been evaluated or considered at all?
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Post by dai on Nov 20, 2018 16:10:33 GMT
Given how they've managed to pick out a player in the Belgian top flight, the team surely has to be aware of Hughes.
I like how all these youngsters are being given a go, but equally baffled by the omission of some other players.
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Post by alarch on Nov 20, 2018 16:27:56 GMT
When we demolished Ireland in the opening Nations League fixture we lined up with the following team:
-----------Hennessey
Roberts---Williams--Mepham---Davies
---------Allen---Ampadu
----Brooks--Ramsey--Lawrence
-------------Bale
Apart from the suspended Davies and the injured Mepham we could have fielded the same team against Denmark. Not only would we have had Ramsey in his familiar, best position, we would have had two proper defensive mids. What was striking about the performance against Ireland was not only did our solidity in the middle of the park make us strong defensively, but it also gave us a strong attacking platform - we could easily have scored several more than the four we got. Furthermore, our defensive mids played a big part offensively - with Allen and Ampadu both getting assists. Davies also assisted Bale's goal with that superb long ball from deep.
We'll never know how things would have gone had we fielded a similar, balanced line-up to the above against Denmark, but hopefully Giggs, when he reflects on this campaign, will realise that to get the best out of his available resources - both offensively as well as defensively, we need defensively-minded players to command the middle of the park.
It's also worth noting that centre forward may well be Bale's best position. Apart from his goal he also smashed home from Ampadu's ball over the top, which was fractionally offside. His consolation goal against Denmark (which we'd be raving about were it not a consolation goal - a vintage Bale goal, with superb movement, pace and control) was a similar long ball over the top goal. Bale is the solution to our striker problem.
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Post by alarch on Nov 20, 2018 16:43:37 GMT
These are Andrew Hughes' statistically determined characteristics:
+ Strengths Aerial Duels - Very Strong Holding on to the ball- Strong Direct free-kicks - Strong - Weaknesses Tackling - Weak
Andrew Hughes's Style of Play Likes to play short passes Does not dive into tackles
Sounds well suited to the Welsh Way of playing and would strengthen us at set pieces.
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Post by pendragon on Nov 20, 2018 17:01:11 GMT
I couldn't agree more with your assessment of the formation and line-up that we fielded against Ireland in the home game. I would have liked to have seen it deployed again against Denmark at home, especially in view of the failure of the 4-4-2 strategy deployed against the Danes in Aarhaus. I absolutely agree that Ramsey is best suited to an attacking midfielder role, rather than that of a defensive midfielder. While I do understand why Giggs went for experience vs youth, it rarely works for us when we try to play conservatively, or at least play MORE conservatively. Our best recent competitive results have come when we have gone for broke - ie. the two Ireland games. In order to get the best out of them, Giggs should deploy the players in their more effective roles and ironically enough, even when playing the 4-2-3-1, we're in better shape defensively. Difficult to know if this would have made a difference as I do feel that the damage was partly sustained by the injuries and suspension of Dummett, Chester and Davies (respectively). We live and we learn. The Euro qualifiers are going to be more important moving forward, and I hope Giggs will have taken the experience gained from this competition on board.
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Post by barry on Nov 20, 2018 18:10:44 GMT
Ward
Roberts Lockyer Lawrence Gunter
King Allen Brooks Wilson James
Vokes
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Post by quetzal on Nov 20, 2018 18:15:43 GMT
Ward Roberts Lockyer Lawrence Gunter King Allen Brooks Wilson James Vokes That’s a proper friendly line up. I like it. All eyes on J Lawrence and Danny Ward and Of course Chris Gunter
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 20, 2018 19:12:51 GMT
No Tom Lawrence in starting line up ffs
Giggs out
🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by zenith on Nov 20, 2018 19:51:52 GMT
Not a bad first half by any means. Good opportunities, just no goal.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 20, 2018 19:57:26 GMT
2 headers missed and vokes poor effort... how long before Tom Lawrence gets on
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 20, 2018 19:58:19 GMT
I’ve hated this half, not enough football for me. Scrappy and then send it up towards Vokes. It’s like watching the friendlies under Toshack.
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Post by welshiron on Nov 20, 2018 19:59:03 GMT
Terrible first half against a terrible team.
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