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Post by robin1864 on Sept 9, 2019 19:57:52 GMT
No complaints from me if Azerbaijan was Hennessey's last cap, we're looking much more organised at the back with Ward in goal - Aside from Roberts thinking he's a winger.
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 9, 2019 19:58:35 GMT
That yellow is long overdue. They’re gonna injure someone the way they’re carrying on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 20:04:58 GMT
Ward is a strange situation,i know there were rumours of Schmeichel leaving which may have made his last move make sense but all those years of hardly playing when he is clearly a decent keeper,crazy.Beats a factory job though I guess.
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2019 20:10:14 GMT
Bloody hell Bale. Why can't we bloody score more goals?
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 9, 2019 20:10:46 GMT
HE SHOOTS!
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2019 20:18:35 GMT
The fouling has been insane in this match.
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2019 20:19:56 GMT
Hows is that not a foul on Vokes? Two Belarusians wrestling him.....
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2019 20:23:56 GMT
We'll probably throw this win away in this final 10mins. Is it too much to ask for a couple of goals?
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2019 20:28:09 GMT
Fucking hell, how is that Zolotov not sent off? Shocking
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2019 20:29:54 GMT
We're going to conceeeeeede
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2019 20:31:41 GMT
And another foul!
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 9, 2019 20:32:14 GMT
Davies for Gunter, fucking hell. ROBERTS IS STILL ON THE PITCH, SOMEWHERE, GIGGS!
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2019 20:34:34 GMT
We're still PISS POOR in the final third, don't have much hope for the qualifying campaign to be honest. Don't score, don't win. It's laughable how bad our scoring record is.
There's no wonder Coleman played for draws, because he knew we can't bloody score.
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 9, 2019 20:35:17 GMT
Fucking hell, how is that Zolotov not sent off? Shocking Once he realised he wouldn’t be sent off he just did what he liked. I know it’s a friendly but the players still need protecting.
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Post by dai on Sept 9, 2019 20:36:44 GMT
Fucking hell, how is that Zolotov not sent off? Shocking Once he realised he wouldn’t be sent off he just did what he liked. I know it’s a friendly but the players still need protecting. The knut committed three bad yellow cards in the last 10 mins. Ref bottled it, and did throughout the match.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 20:49:39 GMT
Crazy how people on here don't realise Gunter is done. Subs all poor tonight. If Moore is a poor man's Vokes who was that clown we brought on to replace him?
Ref didn't bottle anything, it was a friendly so he treated it as such. Set the tone when he didn't book Allen early on.
Williams as MotM was a joke. Gives the ball away far too often, and in dangerous areas. Morrell, Allen and Rodon our best players tonight. Barely put a foot wrong between them. Ampadu needs to start playing soon or else he might not be able to dine out on that Ireland performance much longer.
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 9, 2019 21:02:51 GMT
Crazy how people on here don't realise Gunter is done. Subs all poor tonight. If Moore is a poor man's Vokes who was that clown we brought on to replace him? Ref didn't bottle anything, it was a friendly so he treated it as such. Set the tone when he didn't book Allen early on. Williams as MotM was a joke. Gives the ball away far too often, and in dangerous areas. Morrell, Allen and Rodon our best players tonight. Barely put a foot wrong between them. Ampadu needs to start playing soon or else he might not be able to dine out on that Ireland performance much longer. Right back didn't need fixing because Gunter wasn't broken. Roberts is leaving a lot to be desired and if he didn't have as much pace we'd be in serious trouble with the right side being unprotected because he thinks he's playing a midfield role. Morrell was a good call-up, but I can't wait until Ramsey is back in the squad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 21:11:49 GMT
Crazy how people on here don't realise Gunter is done. Subs all poor tonight. If Moore is a poor man's Vokes who was that clown we brought on to replace him? Ref didn't bottle anything, it was a friendly so he treated it as such. Set the tone when he didn't book Allen early on. Williams as MotM was a joke. Gives the ball away far too often, and in dangerous areas. Morrell, Allen and Rodon our best players tonight. Barely put a foot wrong between them. Ampadu needs to start playing soon or else he might not be able to dine out on that Ireland performance much longer. Right back didn't need fixing because Gunter wasn't broken. Roberts is leaving a lot to be desired and if he didn't have as much pace we'd be in serious trouble with the right side being unprotected because he thinks he's playing a midfield role. Morrell was a good call-up, but I can't wait until Ramsey is back in the squad. Gunter is not the player he was 3 years ago. And he was never anything special, just an engine that Connor has a newer model of. Be very lucky to play above League One level again. Wilson was the weak link down the right for me in the first half. Gave no protection to Connor, spending most of his time infield, although it all looked according to plan given how often Allen was dropping into the fullback pocket to receive the ball. Ideally you'd then have the quicker centre half on that side to cover in behind, as we have it at Swansea.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 9, 2019 21:20:18 GMT
Joniesta class tonight, both down the middle and on the left. I'd rather start him than Wilson at this rate, MOTM for me. Morrell a really good addition to the squad. Moore looked more mobile off the ball than Vokes but otherwise very similar. All in all I think we looked more balanced and today felt like a step in the right direction. Yes we didn't get the goals today but a clean sheet, a win and a good overall performance all without our strongest XI. Definitely far more to be positive about than Friday.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 9, 2019 21:24:07 GMT
A win if not totally convincing against a limited and over aggressive opposition. Brilliant goal from Dan James, and a few good performances in James himself, Joe Allen, Joniesta and Rodon in particular. Still too many errors which will be punished by a better opposition. Slightly improved from last Friday but no where near what's required to be really competitive, with too few chances created and not many shots at goal again. I know it was only a friendly and a win is a win. 6/10.
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Post by pendragon on Sept 9, 2019 21:26:48 GMT
An improvement on Friday night, but still very inconsistent.
I really liked the quick, short-passing movements in some parts of the game however as with Friday, we gave the ball away far too often. Obviously, it happens sometimes but once again, it was very disappointing though not on the same level as Friday.
Perhaps we need to take consolation that three of our players were on their first and second caps, but still it's worrying, considering the double-header we have next month.
The tactics will also need to be smarter as our best goal-scoring prospects will be man-marked next month, leaving very little room for space.
Johnny Williams, Joe Allen, Joe Rodon and Daniel James were the better players, in my opinion.
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Post by zenith on Sept 9, 2019 21:32:44 GMT
Much better coherency shown tonight, thought Allen was superb in the middle of the park, my MOTM.
Ward 6 Roberts 7 Mepham 6 Rodon 7 Davies 7 Allen 8 Morrell 6 Wilson 7 Williams 7 James 7 Moore 6
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Post by alarch on Sept 9, 2019 21:42:49 GMT
It's amazing isn't it the effect of putting round pegs in round holes can have. We looked like a proper team tonight and I'm much, much happier. We could easily have won that by 4 or 5 with more clinical finishing. If that had been a competitive match Belarus would have finished with 8 men - even allowing for the fact it was a friendly the ref was a joke. Moore alone must have been fouled 10 times out of the 29 fouls given (and there were probably another 10 that weren't given).
Allen was MOTM and immense, and I sincerely hope that those pillocks who suggested he was past it after the Azerbaijan game are hanging their heads in shame.
Rodon wasn't far off Allen, easily an 8 out of 10 performance. OK, so he wasn't tested that much - but his passing was phenomenal. He was dispossessed once inside the opposition half, but I can't recall him failing to find his man with a pass on a single occasion - and many of those passes were penetrating passes to feet. Even with only two caps it's hard to see him not starting against Slovakia alongside Mepham - unless Williams or Chester get some serious game time in the interim, which I very much doubt. A massive test, but I can't say any alternative viable options. He's certainly earned the opportunity.
Good debut for Morrell, although no more than a 7 out of 10 for me. I'd still choose a fit Smith ahead of him, but Ampadu is the ideal option, if fit.
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Post by pendragon on Sept 9, 2019 21:49:58 GMT
It's amazing isn't it the effect of putting round pegs in round holes can have. We looked like a proper team tonight and I'm much, much happier. We could easily have won that by 4 or 5 with more clinical finishing. If that had been a competitive match Belarus would have finished with 8 men - even allowing for the fact it was a friendly the ref was a joke. Moore alone must have been fouled 10 times out of the 29 fouls given (and there were probably another 10 that weren't given). Allen was MOTM and immense, and I sincerely hope that those pillocks who suggested he was past it after the Azerbaijan game are hanging their heads in shame. Rodon wasn't far off Allen, easily an 8 out of 10 performance. OK, so he wasn't tested that much - but his passing was phenomenal. He was dispossessed once inside the opposition half, but I can't recall him failing to find his man with a pass on a single occasion - and many of those passes were penetrating passes to feet. Even with only two caps it's hard to see him not starting against Slovakia alongside Mepham - unless Williams or Chester get some serious game time in the interim, which I very much doubt. A massive test, but I can't say any alternative viable options. He's certainly earned the opportunity. Good debut for Morrell, although no more than a 7 out of 10 for me. I'd still choose a fit Smith ahead of him, but Ampadu is the ideal option, if fit. Good points. Despite my pessimism, it's easy for me to forget that Bale didn't start this game. Ramsey, Brooks and Ash are still missing in action. Looking back twelve months ago when we faced Ireland away, we didn't think we could overcome a team without Bale and Ramsey in particular, so perhaps we are moving forward.. Croatia couldn't overcome a tired Azerbaijan so our result last week doesn't look so bad in hindsight! I think Belarus were a tough team defensively, stronger than Azerbaijan in my opinion and were difficult to break down. I still have my concerns though... hoping for a Rambo return next month!
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Post by manulike on Sept 9, 2019 22:31:35 GMT
It's amazing isn't it the effect of putting round pegs in round holes can have. We looked like a proper team tonight and I'm much, much happier. We could easily have won that by 4 or 5 with more clinical finishing. If that had been a competitive match Belarus would have finished with 8 men - even allowing for the fact it was a friendly the ref was a joke. Moore alone must have been fouled 10 times out of the 29 fouls given (and there were probably another 10 that weren't given). Allen was MOTM and immense, and I sincerely hope that those pillocks who suggested he was past it after the Azerbaijan game are hanging their heads in shame. Rodon wasn't far off Allen, easily an 8 out of 10 performance. OK, so he wasn't tested that much - but his passing was phenomenal. He was dispossessed once inside the opposition half, but I can't recall him failing to find his man with a pass on a single occasion - and many of those passes were penetrating passes to feet. Even with only two caps it's hard to see him not starting against Slovakia alongside Mepham - unless Williams or Chester get some serious game time in the interim, which I very much doubt. A massive test, but I can't say any alternative viable options. He's certainly earned the opportunity. Good debut for Morrell, although no more than a 7 out of 10 for me. I'd still choose a fit Smith ahead of him, but Ampadu is the ideal option, if fit. Excellent summary and good points, well made. I also liked the fact that Ward in goal was constantly communicating with his back four - something I don't remember Wayne doing. Felt that Moore was unlucky not to score and having a classic number 9 really made a difference.
#YesWeCan
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Post by cadno on Sept 9, 2019 22:56:20 GMT
I'm really pleased with that performance. It gives me much more optimism for the next 2 games.
Morrell was brilliant and my motm, didn't know a thing about him before tonight. He never shyed away, and his decision making overall was very good.
Moore looks like a real handful, he is pretty mobile for such a big lad. Reminded me a bit of Jan Koller who played for the Czech Republic.
Our shape was strong, with the midfield and defence stepping up and down coherently.
2nd half wasn't quite as good, but that was understandable, players tiring etc.
Jonny Williams was good but had a better 1st half than 2nd, he's better suited through the middle than out wide.
Hopefully we can perform similarly in the next 2 games.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 9, 2019 22:58:06 GMT
It's amazing isn't it the effect of putting round pegs in round holes can have. We looked like a proper team tonight and I'm much, much happier. We could easily have won that by 4 or 5 with more clinical finishing. If that had been a competitive match Belarus would have finished with 8 men - even allowing for the fact it was a friendly the ref was a joke. Moore alone must have been fouled 10 times out of the 29 fouls given (and there were probably another 10 that weren't given). Allen was MOTM and immense, and I sincerely hope that those pillocks who suggested he was past it after the Azerbaijan game are hanging their heads in shame. Rodon wasn't far off Allen, easily an 8 out of 10 performance. OK, so he wasn't tested that much - but his passing was phenomenal. He was dispossessed once inside the opposition half, but I can't recall him failing to find his man with a pass on a single occasion - and many of those passes were penetrating passes to feet. Even with only two caps it's hard to see him not starting against Slovakia alongside Mepham - unless Williams or Chester get some serious game time in the interim, which I very much doubt. A massive test, but I can't say any alternative viable options. He's certainly earned the opportunity. Good debut for Morrell, although no more than a 7 out of 10 for me. I'd still choose a fit Smith ahead of him, but Ampadu is the ideal option, if fit. I didn't see the game, but I feel as if I already had after that. Will definitely be giving it a watch sometime in the next day or two. Hopefully the U21s leave me with as much optimism tomorrow evening.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 9, 2019 23:01:14 GMT
It's amazing isn't it the effect of putting round pegs in round holes can have. We looked like a proper team tonight and I'm much, much happier. We could easily have won that by 4 or 5 with more clinical finishing. If that had been a competitive match Belarus would have finished with 8 men - even allowing for the fact it was a friendly the ref was a joke. Moore alone must have been fouled 10 times out of the 29 fouls given (and there were probably another 10 that weren't given). Allen was MOTM and immense, and I sincerely hope that those pillocks who suggested he was past it after the Azerbaijan game are hanging their heads in shame. Rodon wasn't far off Allen, easily an 8 out of 10 performance. OK, so he wasn't tested that much - but his passing was phenomenal. He was dispossessed once inside the opposition half, but I can't recall him failing to find his man with a pass on a single occasion - and many of those passes were penetrating passes to feet. Even with only two caps it's hard to see him not starting against Slovakia alongside Mepham - unless Williams or Chester get some serious game time in the interim, which I very much doubt. A massive test, but I can't say any alternative viable options. He's certainly earned the opportunity. Good debut for Morrell, although no more than a 7 out of 10 for me. I'd still choose a fit Smith ahead of him, but Ampadu is the ideal option, if fit. Good points. Despite my pessimism, it's easy for me to forget that Bale didn't start this game. Ramsey, Brooks and Ash are still missing in action. Looking back twelve months ago when we faced Ireland away, we didn't think we could overcome a team without Bale and Ramsey in particular, so perhaps we are moving forward.. Croatia couldn't overcome a tired Azerbaijan so our result last week doesn't look so bad in hindsight! I think Belarus were a tough team defensively, stronger than Azerbaijan in my opinion and were difficult to break down. I still have my concerns though... hoping for a Rambo return next month! A great point. Almost feels like a distant memory now. Most people were convinced we couldn't win a game without Bale or Ramsey. Now we are disappointed we are not scoring more against Belarus without them, but also looking comfortable.
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Post by cadno on Sept 9, 2019 23:14:38 GMT
Crazy how people on here don't realise Gunter is done. Subs all poor tonight. If Moore is a poor man's Vokes who was that clown we brought on to replace him? Ref didn't bottle anything, it was a friendly so he treated it as such. Set the tone when he didn't book Allen early on. Williams as MotM was a joke. Gives the ball away far too often, and in dangerous areas. Morrell, Allen and Rodon our best players tonight. Barely put a foot wrong between them. Ampadu needs to start playing soon or else he might not be able to dine out on that Ireland performance much longer. Gunter isn't "done", Roberts is 1st choice, but if he's injured/not 100% then Gunts is the next man in. A top defender 👍 crazy how people forget full backs are meant to be good defenders more than anything.
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Post by manulike on Sept 9, 2019 23:22:11 GMT
It's amazing isn't it the effect of putting round pegs in round holes can have. We looked like a proper team tonight and I'm much, much happier. We could easily have won that by 4 or 5 with more clinical finishing. If that had been a competitive match Belarus would have finished with 8 men - even allowing for the fact it was a friendly the ref was a joke. Moore alone must have been fouled 10 times out of the 29 fouls given (and there were probably another 10 that weren't given). Allen was MOTM and immense, and I sincerely hope that those pillocks who suggested he was past it after the Azerbaijan game are hanging their heads in shame. Rodon wasn't far off Allen, easily an 8 out of 10 performance. OK, so he wasn't tested that much - but his passing was phenomenal. He was dispossessed once inside the opposition half, but I can't recall him failing to find his man with a pass on a single occasion - and many of those passes were penetrating passes to feet. Even with only two caps it's hard to see him not starting against Slovakia alongside Mepham - unless Williams or Chester get some serious game time in the interim, which I very much doubt. A massive test, but I can't say any alternative viable options. He's certainly earned the opportunity. Good debut for Morrell, although no more than a 7 out of 10 for me. I'd still choose a fit Smith ahead of him, but Ampadu is the ideal option, if fit. I didn't see the game, but I feel as if I already had after that. Will definitely be giving it a watch sometime in the next day or two. Hopefully the U21s leave me with as much optimism tomorrow evening. Actually really recommend watching the first 75 minutes in full. I saw the 'highlights' on the beeb tonight, and they really did not do the match justice. It wasn't quite the 4-1 v ROI - but probably our best performance since then ;-)
Enjoy the game tomorrow - especially young Burton!
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