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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 9, 2021 19:00:49 GMT
Arguably got the assist for the second as well, either way there seems to be a lot more to his game than just scoring lots of goals.
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Post by cadno on Jan 9, 2021 19:13:11 GMT
Arguably got the assist for the second as well, either way there seems to be a lot more to his game than just scoring lots of goals. I didn't realise 17yo Pat Jones for Huddersfield is Welsh - he's been really impressive. Great game! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 9, 2021 23:19:56 GMT
Watched the highlights and both looked good. Jephcott looks like he can step up
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Post by talyfan on Jan 16, 2021 15:13:44 GMT
There's three inevitables in life
Death, taxes and Luke Jephcott banging them in
Scores again today
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 29, 2021 11:28:01 GMT
For anyone that hasn't seen much of him. Is Jephcott what we thought Bradshaw could be?
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Post by iot on Jan 29, 2021 12:10:28 GMT
For anyone that hasn't seen much of him. Is Jephcott what we thought Bradshaw could be? Possibly. Alternatively, he could be how Bradshaw actually ended up, how Jake Cassidy ended up (remember him?), and how Jordan Rhodes ended up. There are lots of young players banging in goals for fun in League 1, but struggle to replicate the same at a higher level or struggle to develop a more rounded game. That's why, despite being encouraged by his record this season, I think it's way too early to come to any firm conclusions and too early for him to step up with our seniors. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Jan 29, 2021 12:28:29 GMT
Jake Cassidy was such an odd one. 15 goals in his first 25 career league games in League 1 as a 19 year old. 6 goals in 137 for football league clubs after that, hardly lethal in non-league either.
How is someone able to score so consistently at League 1 level as a 19 year old, with most of his goals being scored largely on instinct, but never able to come close to recreating that form even at a much lower level despite never really suffering from injuries?
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Post by iot on Jan 29, 2021 12:57:55 GMT
Jake Cassidy was such an odd one. 15 goals in his first 25 career league games in League 1 as a 19 year old. 6 goals in 137 for football league clubs after that, hardly lethal in non-league either. How is someone able to score so consistently at League 1 level as a 19 year old, with most of his goals being scored largely on instinct, but never able to come close to recreating that form even at a much lower level despite never really suffering from injuries? Yeah, it's very strange and difficult to pinpoint. I think there's a lot of luck in football with so many variables affecting how players perform - the dynamics of the team, the manager's tactics, confidence, getting into a rhythm. Sometimes the stars align (as Joe Allen mentioned with regards to how he established himself in Roberto Martinez' Swansea side). And sometimes things don't work out and no one's ever quite sure why. The danger with Jephcott is that he could be just in a period where everything's going well for him, but after some changes we may see him at a truer level. Alternatively, he could be an excellent prospect who has different aspects to his game that we're not aware of and can perform in different environments. So, for me, he's just a wait and see type of player, he isn't someone I'm going to get too excited over yet. |
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Post by cadno on Jan 29, 2021 13:15:22 GMT
For anyone that hasn't seen much of him. Is Jephcott what we thought Bradshaw could be? Still convinced Bradshaw could be class at international level  |
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Post by iot on Jan 29, 2021 13:56:19 GMT
For anyone that hasn't seen much of him. Is Jephcott what we thought Bradshaw could be? Still convinced Bradshaw could be class at international level About as likely as Simon Church! Looking at their stats, their goal return when playing for championship clubs are almost identical. Bradshaw is currently on 29 goals in 156 games for Barnsley and Millwall. Church got 29 in 178 for Reading, Charlton and MK Dons |
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Post by cadno on Jan 29, 2021 14:49:36 GMT
Still convinced Bradshaw could be class at international level About as likely as Simon Church! Looking at their stats, their goal return when playing for championship clubs are almost identical. Bradshaw is currently on 29 goals in 156 games for Barnsley and Millwall. Church got 29 in 178 for Reading, Charlton and MK Dons Church was great for us! |
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Post by iot on Jan 29, 2021 15:40:12 GMT
About as likely as Simon Church! Looking at their stats, their goal return when playing for championship clubs are almost identical. Bradshaw is currently on 29 goals in 156 games for Barnsley and Millwall. Church got 29 in 178 for Reading, Charlton and MK Dons Church was great for us! Nah, he was as good if not better than our other options aside from Vokes and HRK, but still a very poor player at that level, hence the measly 3 goals in 38 games. He ran the channels very well in the early years, but couldn't even do that by the time of the euros qualifiers. I always dreaded seeing his name on the teamsheet, but we didn't have any other options at the time |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 29, 2021 15:52:11 GMT
Poor Luke, unwittingly added to the Bradshaw Church debate. He has my sympathies.
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Post by cadno on Jan 29, 2021 15:55:18 GMT
Nah, he was as good if not better than our other options aside from Vokes and HRK, but still a very poor player at that level, hence the measly 3 goals in 38 games. He ran the channels very well in the early years, but couldn't even do that by the time of the euros qualifiers. I always dreaded seeing his name on the teamsheet, but we didn't have any other options at the time Yeah he was great running the channels, creating space etc and it's a poor goal return but I don't think HRK's return has been much better? He chipped in with some important performances in the euro qualifiers & maybe his goal against Macedonia around 2013 helped keep Coleman in his job! Injuries hindered him a bit too |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 29, 2021 19:38:54 GMT
I think even though Hal has a similar record, he undoubtedly added more to the team than Church with his hold up play - he was a bit quicker too. Not knocking Church he was always part of the parcel of that Euro 2016 squad
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Post by insertname on Jan 29, 2021 21:50:24 GMT
I think even though Hal has a similar record, he undoubtedly added more to the team than Church with his hold up play - he was a bit quicker too. Not knocking Church he was always part of the parcel of that Euro 2016 squad “Not knocking” maybe but be honest, what were your thoughts when you saw him about to come on against Portugal? The fact that was the best we could do at 2-0 down at that level showed how weak we were outside of the first XI. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 29, 2021 23:06:30 GMT
I think even though Hal has a similar record, he undoubtedly added more to the team than Church with his hold up play - he was a bit quicker too. Not knocking Church he was always part of the parcel of that Euro 2016 squad “Not knocking” maybe but be honest, what were your thoughts when you saw him about to come on against Portugal? The fact that was the best we could do at 2-0 down at that level showed how weak we were outside of the first XI. Personally I'd just seen HRK Cruyff turn the whole Belgium defence so I was thinking anything is possible. But I take your point & I agree that outside the first XI we were too weak for that level of competition (which isn't an insult) |
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Post by insertname on Jan 30, 2021 8:38:03 GMT
“Not knocking” maybe but be honest, what were your thoughts when you saw him about to come on against Portugal? The fact that was the best we could do at 2-0 down at that level showed how weak we were outside of the first XI. Personally I'd just seen HRK Cruyff turn the whole Belgium defence so I was thinking anything is possible. But I take your point & I agree that outside the first XI we were too weak for that level of competition (which isn't an insult) Fair comment, even then though (as others have suggested) HRK was a few rings above Church and Vokes. Vokes had used his miraculous goal against Belgium, there was no way Church was going to reach that level even in a one off game. As part of the die hard Bradshaw crew I really wish Coleman had given strikers who weren’t Church and Vokes a chance but, being honest, was Bradshaw the difference? Very obviously not. I still think there is a lesson to learn from blooding players early and just seeing what they can do. In that sense might be worth a crack in the Mexico game to call Jephcott up. I’m highly sceptical if only because against my team, with one of the worst defences in the league, he missed a 1 v 1 and the commentators were almost mocking him. Since then fair play he’s made that game look a one off. But I don’t know, international football is a different breed. He can’t afford to miss chances at all. He probably needs a B team game to show where he is at and I think the Mexico game is as good a chance as we will get for that. |
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Post by cadno on Jan 30, 2021 10:11:01 GMT
Yes let's try Jephcott and Moore Vs Mexico or Jephcott / Doidge!
Ward
Lockyer Cabango Ampadu
Neco Smith Morrell Fox
Joniesta
Jephcott Moore
Wing backs should put a few cross in for the 2 men up top!
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Post by manulike on Jan 30, 2021 17:12:53 GMT
Another one today.
For a little fella, he is very decent in the air ;-)
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 1, 2021 13:42:01 GMT
Next player linked with a move to Cardiff. 6 month loan with option to buy at end of season
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Post by dai on Feb 1, 2021 13:56:30 GMT
Probably the most exciting move from a Welsh perspective, will be very interesting seeing how he gets on in the Championship.
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Post by dragonsoccer on Feb 1, 2021 14:04:33 GMT
from a source close to the player - its news !! "spoke to him this morning and he never mentioned it"
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 1, 2021 14:14:06 GMT
Well this has come out of nowhere
The journalists who cover Cardiff haven't heard anything about it, but then again most of Wales Online's sport content is nicked off of Cardiff & Swansea's messageboards
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 1, 2021 14:20:24 GMT
It’s bollox:
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 1, 2021 14:27:46 GMT
That was a fun 5 minutes
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 6, 2021 16:33:07 GMT
17 goals and counting
Edit: make that 18
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Feb 6, 2021 18:28:13 GMT
Top Welsh Goalscorers in League 1 (2004-Present)
Ched Evans, 29 - 2011/12
Freddy Eastwood, 23 - 2005/06
Steve Morison, 20 - 2009/10
Ched Evans, 17 - 2018/19
Kieffer Moore, 17 - 2018/19
Tom Bradshaw, 17 - 2015/16
Tom Bradshaw, 17 - 2014/15
Luke Jephcott, 16 - 2020/21
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 6, 2021 18:50:19 GMT
His conversion rate and shot accuracy is streets ahead of the competition;
Conversion rate Accuracy
Jephcott 48% 71%
Clarke-Harris 22% 48%
Pigott 20% 40%
Wyke 28% 41%
Marquis 24% 46%
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 8, 2021 16:42:09 GMT
We simply must give him a run out against Mexico.
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