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Post by reyrey on Sept 25, 2023 6:21:02 GMT
Not one of our best 4 full backs
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Post by welwyn on Sept 25, 2023 14:28:08 GMT
our best fit left-footed full-back
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Post by reyrey on Sept 25, 2023 15:42:06 GMT
Give your head a wobble if you think he is better than Davies
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Post by talyfan on Sept 25, 2023 15:44:58 GMT
Huggins is right footed but I think from reading up on him he's fairly adept with his left foot.
I think best to see if he can really nail down a spot between now and the next run of fixtures.
We have left sided defenders who are able to operate in a back 3 as a half back (Davies, Fox and Andrew Hughes) as well as full back. Admittedly, Hughes never been in the picture and very unlikely he'll be called up. Although Preston are doing well at the moment.
Then the likes of Neco, Huggins, Beck who are maybe more attack minded full backs. RND once he's recovered too. So we have got better depth in that area.
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Post by welwyn on Sept 25, 2023 16:51:47 GMT
Give your head a wobble if you think he is better than Davies Ben's a LCB, although if he is right-footed I will remove my point. Just figured he was left-footed as I have never seen him play on the right. |
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Post by iot on Oct 4, 2023 19:37:43 GMT
Not a bad goal this!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 4, 2023 20:12:53 GMT
Great goal! Playing RWB looks like? I'm sure he'll get a call up at some point over the next year |
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 4, 2023 20:48:15 GMT
Didn’t look out of place at that level against Cardiff. Looks a real prospect
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Post by dai on Oct 4, 2023 21:35:01 GMT
Ooofff, that was Bale-esque! I thought he looked class when he returned from injury last year, and then got injured again. Hope he has a healthy run now, as he does look bloody decent. |
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Post by jimexotic on Oct 5, 2023 23:04:25 GMT
Since returning from injury and putting in some good performances I'm surprised he's behind Owen Beck in the pecking order.
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Post by hooky on Oct 6, 2023 8:54:27 GMT
Since returning from injury and putting in some good performances I'm surprised he's behind Owen Beck in the pecking order. Makes no sense but I guess not being related to an ex-player has not helped his cause ! Look I am not an expert on Huggins, Beck or Savage but I would assume that someone making a big impression in a Championship side that is currently in the top 6 I believe should be noticed and would normally be ahead of first division and Scottish league players, who have not exactly lit up things! What is especially eye catching is how he has dealt with adversity to come back like this - terrible injuries and moved on by Leeds - gets a sniff and takes his chance as we are seeing. Given our currently weak squad then it is surprising he is overlooked. |
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Post by surge on Oct 6, 2023 9:51:07 GMT
I don't believe it's as simple as "who are our best players, let's pick them." Can you just assume this is my pov going forward so I can stop posting same thing!!!
Beck is for the Gibraltar game then back to youth side after that? Maybe that's part of it, maybe it's to do with Huggins playing regularly at good level for 3 months and us needing to see more than that before picking him, maybe it's to manage his workload as he comes back from injury.
But I am extremely pleased to see him start the season so well.
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Post by iot on Oct 6, 2023 10:01:17 GMT
Since returning from injury and putting in some good performances I'm surprised he's behind Owen Beck in the pecking order. Makes no sense but I guess not being related to an ex-player has not helped his cause ! Look I am not an expert on Huggins, Beck or Savage but I would assume that someone making a big impression in a Championship side that is currently in the top 6 I believe should be noticed and would normally be ahead of first division and Scottish league players, who have not exactly lit up things! What is especially eye catching is how he has dealt with adversity to come back like this - terrible injuries and moved on by Leeds - gets a sniff and takes his chance as we are seeing. Given our currently weak squad then it is surprising he is overlooked. From everything dragonsoccer always says, squad selection decisions are usually made around 2-3 weeks in advance of the announcement (presumably due to logistical reasons in getting the ducks lined up for each player). At that point, Huggins had only returned for a couple of games after his long injury lay-off and he was actually getting some stick for poor early performances. However, he's grown from strength to strength since then which is great to see. I think it's slightly silly to have a pop over his omission at this early stage given that context. That criticism will become more valid imo only if he continues to play well and yet continues to be omitted. I thought Southgate made an interesting comment yesterday when justifying why he had not called up Olli Watkins, saying that you can't make decisions based on recency bias otherwise there's just continual chopping and changing within the squad which isn't conducive to success. Fans hate that - they always want the flavour of the month and the shiny new thing, but it's a very good point. |
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Post by talyfan on Oct 6, 2023 10:29:30 GMT
Beck, Savage and Luke Harris are in Under 21 squad.
They'll be available for the friendly against Gibraltar and then all 3 of them cut off the 26 man squad for Croatia to join up with Under 21s.
Page has a closer look at some of the young lads in the Under 21s. That's all there is to it.
Don't think there is an argument for Beck vs Huggins
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Post by dragonsoccer on Oct 6, 2023 10:45:20 GMT
Makes no sense but I guess not being related to an ex-player has not helped his cause ! Look I am not an expert on Huggins, Beck or Savage but I would assume that someone making a big impression in a Championship side that is currently in the top 6 I believe should be noticed and would normally be ahead of first division and Scottish league players, who have not exactly lit up things! What is especially eye catching is how he has dealt with adversity to come back like this - terrible injuries and moved on by Leeds - gets a sniff and takes his chance as we are seeing. Given our currently weak squad then it is surprising he is overlooked. From everything dragonsoccer always says, squad selection decisions are usually made around 2-3 weeks in advance of the announcement (presumably due to logistical reasons in getting the ducks lined up for each player). At that point, Huggins had only returned for a couple of games after his long injury lay-off and he was actually getting some stick for poor early performances. However, he's grown from strength to strength since then which is great to see. I think it's slightly silly to have a pop over his omission at this early stage given that context. That criticism will become more valid imo only if he continues to play well and yet continues to be omitted. I thought Southgate made an interesting comment yesterday when justifying why he had not called up Olli Watkins, saying that you can't make decisions based on recency bias otherwise there's just continual chopping and changing within the squad which isn't conducive to success. Fans hate that - they always want the flavour of the month and the shiny new thing, but it's a very good point. I do talk sense sometimes  hence my tweet on Niall 24th September x.com/dragonsoccernr/status/1705930504912904274Players/Clubs are told well in advance of call ups, of course things change in the timeframe between then and when the squad does come out it's been common knowledge for years |
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Post by jimexotic on Oct 6, 2023 14:00:44 GMT
Makes no sense but I guess not being related to an ex-player has not helped his cause ! Look I am not an expert on Huggins, Beck or Savage but I would assume that someone making a big impression in a Championship side that is currently in the top 6 I believe should be noticed and would normally be ahead of first division and Scottish league players, who have not exactly lit up things! What is especially eye catching is how he has dealt with adversity to come back like this - terrible injuries and moved on by Leeds - gets a sniff and takes his chance as we are seeing. Given our currently weak squad then it is surprising he is overlooked. From everything dragonsoccer always says, squad selection decisions are usually made around 2-3 weeks in advance of the announcement (presumably due to logistical reasons in getting the ducks lined up for each player). At that point, Huggins had only returned for a couple of games after his long injury lay-off and he was actually getting some stick for poor early performances. However, he's grown from strength to strength since then which is great to see. I think it's slightly silly to have a pop over his omission at this early stage given that context. That criticism will become more valid imo only if he continues to play well and yet continues to be omitted. I thought Southgate made an interesting comment yesterday when justifying why he had not called up Olli Watkins, saying that you can't make decisions based on recency bias otherwise there's just continual chopping and changing within the squad which isn't conducive to success. Fans hate that - they always want the flavour of the month and the shiny new thing, but it's a very good point. I never listen to anything Southgate has to say, this is a man who picks Saudi League Jordan Henderson, 33, and Man City reserve Kalvin Phillip, he literally barely plays, over James Ward-Prowse, who has been consistently decent for years and has now gone up a level as he enters his prime. |
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Post by oldman on Oct 6, 2023 14:28:53 GMT
This player should 100% be in the Welsh squad. There is no excuse for not picking him as the squad was only announced the other day.
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Post by iot on Oct 6, 2023 14:45:48 GMT
From everything dragonsoccer always says, squad selection decisions are usually made around 2-3 weeks in advance of the announcement (presumably due to logistical reasons in getting the ducks lined up for each player). At that point, Huggins had only returned for a couple of games after his long injury lay-off and he was actually getting some stick for poor early performances. However, he's grown from strength to strength since then which is great to see. I think it's slightly silly to have a pop over his omission at this early stage given that context. That criticism will become more valid imo only if he continues to play well and yet continues to be omitted. I thought Southgate made an interesting comment yesterday when justifying why he had not called up Olli Watkins, saying that you can't make decisions based on recency bias otherwise there's just continual chopping and changing within the squad which isn't conducive to success. Fans hate that - they always want the flavour of the month and the shiny new thing, but it's a very good point. I never listen to anything Southgate has to say, this is a man who picks Saudi League Jordan Henderson, 33, and Man City reserve Kalvin Phillip, he literally barely plays, over James Ward-Prowse, who has been consistently decent for years and has now gone up a level as he enters his prime. Think you're missing the point slightly, which is that we don't need to go all in and jump at the chance anytime someone shows half decent form at a good level. Until the last few weeks, Huggins hadn't shown anything to warrant a call up. He's began to do that now, but it's right that we're patient and look at the consistency of his performances at championship level before approaching. I remember at around this time a couple of seasons ago that Sorba Thomas had a month or two of red hot form and that people were up in arms when he hadn't been included in a squad. But he was gradually integrated and it turns out that he wasn't anything special. |
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Post by jimexotic on Oct 8, 2023 19:06:57 GMT
I never listen to anything Southgate has to say, this is a man who picks Saudi League Jordan Henderson, 33, and Man City reserve Kalvin Phillip, he literally barely plays, over James Ward-Prowse, who has been consistently decent for years and has now gone up a level as he enters his prime. Think you're missing the point slightly, which is that we don't need to go all in and jump at the chance anytime someone shows half decent form at a good level. Until the last few weeks, Huggins hadn't shown anything to warrant a call up. He's began to do that now, but it's right that we're patient and look at the consistency of his performances at championship level before approaching. I remember at around this time a couple of seasons ago that Sorba Thomas had a month or two of red hot form and that people were up in arms when he hadn't been included in a squad. But he was gradually integrated and it turns out that he wasn't anything special. No I get it, I just can't help myself with Southgate at times, he does my head in. In our situation sometimes we don't have much choice but to call up someone young with promise and in Sorba's case he was looking very good, Championship player of the month and a string of really good performances at a time when we're calling up League One players and Chris Gunter was still in the picture. In the case of Huggins and Beck, neither have done much until recently, Beck has started more in an inferior league and spent his first 6 games collecting four yellow cards, he's already on five for the season which is a bit of a concern given the opposition he's facing, Bonnyrigg Rose, Inverness, St Mirren, Hearts and Hibs. |
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Post by surge on Oct 8, 2023 20:47:20 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 8, 2023 10:43:37 GMT
First senior call up for Niall. Llongyfarchiadau
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 8, 2023 10:49:52 GMT
Great news - need to find an alternative option at wing back and hope he can be the answer!
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Post by dai on Nov 8, 2023 10:53:43 GMT
Well, that was a nice surprise. Well deserved, he's quality.
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Post by oldman on Nov 8, 2023 11:25:13 GMT
Well, that was a nice surprise. Well deserved, he's quality. Definitely a nice surprise and well deserved as well. |
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Post by jimexotic on Nov 9, 2023 1:01:53 GMT
Really pleased with this call up
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Post by marsvolta on Dec 23, 2023 21:25:10 GMT
Looks like he’s suffered a long term injury again.
Man, he is so unlucky
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Post by dai on Dec 23, 2023 21:47:41 GMT
Looks like he’s suffered a long term injury again. Man, he is so unlucky Just seen the injury. Jesus wept, I've never seen a country dealt with as many injuries as us.........unbelievable. Absolutely gutted for him.....f*cking shite. |
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Post by hooky on Dec 23, 2023 21:53:50 GMT
No
Have not seen
It does seem to hit us and our younger players more than other countries but perhaps we are not focused so much on rising talents of other countries, especially when they play in lower divisions.
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Post by hooky on Dec 23, 2023 21:57:13 GMT
Full backs
Norrington-Davies - long term injury
Huggins - long term injuries
Neco - even he had his own Welsh team match fracture his cheek bone and got concussed against England
Robert had some kind of virus that hit him hard and put him in hospital- has never really been the same since
Really unusual things have hit so many of them with the 2 next best back ups losing years in their relative youth to injury
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Dec 23, 2023 22:38:46 GMT
The poor bastard, best of luck in his recovery.
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