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Post by jimexotic on Aug 9, 2022 21:36:07 GMT
I think I've given up on Cardiff for this season, hopefully Isaak and Rubin can get out of their within the next three weeks. Realistically where could Rubin end up. Continent or upper level of Chs'p?? I say this about every young Welsh player but Forest perhaps? He's got a lot of natural ability, he just needs to be given the chance to show it. Realistically I'd say he's upper Championship at the moment, plenty of sides that could use him, there's a lot of rubbish starting games in the Championship, there's a lot of rubbish starting games at Cardiff.... |
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Post by morg on Aug 10, 2022 10:59:16 GMT
With a bit of luck, young players involved in the Welsh set up will get the reputation as decent signings here and abroad. We're definitely seeing a wider spread of our players across Europe and hopefully this'll see more of our youngsters willing to consider it as an option rather than sit on the bench watching a journeyman.
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 13, 2022 19:07:35 GMT
Came on today as part of a midfield three and looked very good. Looked leaner and put himself about
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 14, 2022 8:08:29 GMT
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Post by hooky on Aug 14, 2022 8:43:00 GMT
That clip showed how very poor Harris is as an attacking player. He is not even Championship quality.
I would wager he'd be lucky to score more than 5 goals this season.
He should be nowhere near the Wales squad. I know they are very different but would rather have a Mantando or Lawrence that give you positive alternatives than him available. Just because Harris can play a role slightly like Moore and is different should not get him a squad place when he is so poor. You just don't play that system if Moore is not available.
I don't want to hear - but he played well against Estonia. We are in the World Cup versus World Cup teams and lets remember he messed up his goal scoring opportunity in that match too.
Nothing against him but I would argue you should always pick a second rate James or Wilson over a fourth rate Moore any day. Both Rabbi and Lawrence offer far more goal threat, while Lawrence offers more creativity and Rabbi incredible pace.
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Post by conwy10 on Aug 14, 2022 8:47:54 GMT
That clip showed how very poor Harris is as an attacking player. He is not even Championship quality. I would wager he'd be lucky to score more than 5 goals this season. He should be nowhere near the Wales squad. I know they are very different but would rather have a Mantando or Lawrence that give you positive alternatives than him available. Just because Harris can play a role slightly like Moore and is different should not get him a squad place when he is so poor. You just don't play that system if Moore is not available. I don't want to hear - but he played well against Estonia. We are in the World Cup versus World Cup teams and lets remember he messed up his goal scoring opportunity in that match too. Nothing against him but I would argue you should always pick a second rate James or Wilson over a fourth rate Moore any day. Both Rabbi and Lawrence offer far more goal threat, while Lawrence offers more creativity and Rabbi incredible pace. Only going off Wales games but I agree with you. I don't know if I'm being harsh but at his age we need to be seeing signs there's something in him that he can offer us. I'd hate to think we're falling into the Church/Vokes trap again of they're still youngish players that could come good. |
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Post by iot on Aug 14, 2022 9:07:03 GMT
That clip showed how very poor Harris is as an attacking player. He is not even Championship quality. I would wager he'd be lucky to score more than 5 goals this season. He should be nowhere near the Wales squad. I know they are very different but would rather have a Mantando or Lawrence that give you positive alternatives than him available. Just because Harris can play a role slightly like Moore and is different should not get him a squad place when he is so poor. You just don't play that system if Moore is not available. I don't want to hear - but he played well against Estonia. We are in the World Cup versus World Cup teams and lets remember he messed up his goal scoring opportunity in that match too. Nothing against him but I would argue you should always pick a second rate James or Wilson over a fourth rate Moore any day. Both Rabbi and Lawrence offer far more goal threat, while Lawrence offers more creativity and Rabbi incredible pace. Weird comment. The clip shows Harris making a great run down the channel, skipping past a player, and putting in a perfect cross for Etete who misses from two yards. I can only assume you mixed up etete with harris, which is strange considering etete's about a foot taller. The previous clip in the highlights reel shows harris making another great run behind, takes a brilliant touch to take it down, and put in a really clever pass for a one on one chance. So two clips where Harris shows exactly what he has to offer - those runs in behind. He's a terrible finisher, but brilliant at making those runs, which should have ended up in two goals yesterday, and did end up in a goal for us against Belarus (without which, we probably would not have qualified for the world cup). I don't have a particularly strong opinion on whether he should be in the squad or not. I can see both arguments. On the plus side he's a good impact sub and is a different option who is very effective against a high defensive line. With 26 players to select, I can see why we would pick fringe players who add value by having something different to offer, over players who have similar styles to the first choice but are not as good. On the other side, he has a terrible goalscoring record. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 14, 2022 9:14:17 GMT
Yep very weird, especially given the clip was shared to show a great bit of skill by young Colwill. That didn’t even get a mention.
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Post by hooky on Aug 14, 2022 9:34:01 GMT
It did get mentioned but my comment was about Harris
Come on - creating goals and technical ability - he is well behind the other two, no matter what runs he makes and decent crosses. The others score more and are more consistent threats.
Anyway on Colwill - we all know he has it right? Its just can be become consistent enough, does he have the drive to take his career as high as he can and can he be a bit more aggressive?
Woodburn showed us how without those attributes when mixed with a bit of bad luck with injuries, things can go pear shaped. So stupid what has happened to him - he was so technically gifted and instinctive.
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Post by quetzal on Nov 3, 2022 21:31:59 GMT
Seems like a Page player. Great trainer and all that nonsense. Back to the 80’s Watford that. Graham Taylor and all that He’s tall, he’s big, he’s strong. He will be on the plane and I’m not sure he has earned it. |
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Post by dai on Nov 3, 2022 21:44:32 GMT
Will he be on the plane though? He hasn't played for Cardiff since mid September.
What is going on with him? Is he injured?
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 3, 2022 21:49:07 GMT
Will he be on the plane though? He hasn't played for Cardiff since mid September. What is going on with him? Is he injured? Yes he's been injured. May be back this weekend |
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Post by iot on Nov 3, 2022 22:33:47 GMT
Don't think it would be a bad thing if he didn't make the squad. I think he's looked very decent in his recent cameo displays, but he's not pushing on at club level, notwithstanding his recent injury. He's been given a lot at a very young age, so being left out of the squad could be a good kick up the backside for him
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Post by quetzal on Nov 4, 2022 8:23:59 GMT
For the record I think he has been decent for Cymru. Just not playing for Cardiff at all.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Nov 4, 2022 9:03:54 GMT
There’s only so many match unfit players we can take. I really rate Colwill, but although he hasn’t had any senior involvement yet, I’d take Oli Cooper. Bang inform and matchfit.
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Post by marsvolta on Nov 4, 2022 10:16:39 GMT
Don't think it would be a bad thing if he didn't make the squad. I think he's looked very decent in his recent cameo displays, but he's not pushing on at club level, notwithstanding his recent injury. He's been given a lot at a very young age, so being left out of the squad could be a good kick up the backside for him I agree that it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if he was left out of the squad, but I’m not sure he needs ‘a good kick up the backside’. He’s played well for us whilst struggling to get a run in the Cardiff side when fit under Morison and has been battling a niggling injury since. Throughout this he seems to have maintained a great attitude. Needs a Break? Maybe Kick up the arse? Nah |
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Post by iot on Nov 4, 2022 11:10:12 GMT
Just think he sometimes looks a bit too casual for Cardiff. As you say, he wasn't starting much for Morison when fit (accept he missed preseason with an injury). When he did play, he looked decent, but still seemed to be playing in 2nd / 3rd gear at times. Perhaps knowing he can't take his Wales place for granted will apply a bit more pressure and get a bit more out of him at club level
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 4, 2022 11:55:53 GMT
Don't think it would be a bad thing if he didn't make the squad. I think he's looked very decent in his recent cameo displays, but he's not pushing on at club level, notwithstanding his recent injury. He's been given a lot at a very young age, so being left out of the squad could be a good kick up the backside for him That's harsh Morison didn't rate Colwill, that much is obvious, he was set to release him had McCarthy not brought him into the first team. The rumours that spread quickly following Morison's dismissal may also point to why Colwill hasn't kicked on in the manner some may expect Morison was a poor manager for Cardiff and has held back or bombed out what was a very promising crop of youngsters. Hopefully the likes of Colwill and Davies can kick on after the World Cup. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 8, 2022 18:47:04 GMT
On the bench for Cardiff tonight
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Post by quetzal on Nov 8, 2022 19:05:14 GMT
On the bench for Cardiff tonight If I was him I would be fuming. Could cost him a place in the World Cup. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 8, 2022 23:00:02 GMT
On the bench for Cardiff tonight If I was him I would be fuming. Could cost him a place in the World Cup. He's coming back from injury |
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Post by quetzal on Nov 9, 2022 19:42:31 GMT
Seems like a Page player. Great trainer and all that nonsense. Back to the 80’s Watford that. Graham Taylor and all that He’s tall, he’s big, he’s strong. He will be on the plane and I’m not sure he has earned it. ‘He’s big, he’s strong, great attitude on the training ground, off the pitch he loves mixing with the lads. ‘ It’s all a bit Mike Bassett for me. Any way good luck Rubin. Hope he can show us something, |
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Post by cadno on Nov 9, 2022 19:49:04 GMT
He’s tall, he’s big, he’s strong. He will be on the plane and I’m not sure he has earned it. ‘He’s big, he’s strong, great attitude on the training ground, off the pitch he loves mixing with the lads. ‘ It’s all a bit Mike Bassett for me. Any way good luck Rubin. Hope he can show us something, Aye I’ve never been that impressed by him but tbf the coaches must see something I don’t! Certainly a big lad and decent enough on the ball. Lovely couple of goals for Cardiff last season, so he can finish too. Good luck to him! |
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Post by fiveattheback on Dec 21, 2022 14:08:00 GMT
Nice free kick for Cardiff U21s today. Interestingly played deeper as the more advanced of a midfield 2 and was everywhere, he's much better centrally than he is on the wing. Isaak Davies managed an hour as well so hopefully both of these are close to returning to the first team. Young striker James Crole also scored for Cardiff, one to keep an eye on imo
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 21, 2022 15:08:37 GMT
Just needs to get senior games. If he's as promising as we think he might be, getting in this below average Cardiff team should be easy
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Post by bale-droed on Dec 21, 2022 15:12:44 GMT
‘He’s big, he’s strong, great attitude on the training ground, off the pitch he loves mixing with the lads. ‘ It’s all a bit Mike Bassett for me. Any way good luck Rubin. Hope he can show us something, Aye I’ve never been that impressed by him but tbf the coaches must see something I don’t! Certainly a big lad and decent enough on the ball. Lovely couple of goals for Cardiff last season, so he can finish too. Good luck to him! Same. Clearly has ability but he’s never going to be a top player. I hope he proves me wrong and shows us what the coaches see but he gives me major Jason koumas vibes. Edit: for context amp.theguardian.com/football/in-bed-with-maradona/2016/may/12/jason-koumas-steven-gerrard-liverpool-tranmere |
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Post by fiveattheback on Dec 21, 2022 15:19:33 GMT
This is a key season for him, the management at Cardiff seem to have had enough of certain senior players so there should be opportunities for him. I'd like him to play centrally, he's wasted out wide for me
It's more than possible that Cardiff will be under a transfer embargo until summer 2024 so there should be opportunities for young players
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 21, 2022 17:04:49 GMT
Agreed. Has to be central, either as a no.10 or he has to learn to be a deeper creative midfielder. With his physicality, ability to turn and creativity, if he became adept in his defensive work he'd be the ideal partner for a "destroyer" like Ampadu or Terry Taylor
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 21, 2022 17:32:03 GMT
I think both Colwill and Taylor may have to be on the move soon, Colwill needs games and Burton are going down.
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Post by surge on Dec 21, 2022 19:03:57 GMT
To state the obvious, each young player is on their own journey and it's better to have a slower start but longer at high peak rather than be a Michael Owen where career is pretty much over by age of 22.
Colwill clearly has talent - and training with Bale when Gareth can still do bits is a benefit to him - but there are things he still has to work on in order to be effective in modern day football which is possibly one reason why he's not yet burst through as much as we'd expect. There are very few players these days who can play like Mesut Ozil and expect to play at high level, and I think Colwill has needed to learn how to use size and positioning to help out defensively.
One advantage Colwill has though, as seen in that video, is how big he's becoming. Moore is 6'5, Bale is 6'1 and muscular but who is our third biggest attacking player? I'm not trying to reduce football down to "who has the big lads wins", especially as Argentina just won a tournament with players on the smaller side, and Colwill has only just started to use his bigger frame to his advantage (not great with his head yet/possibly ever), but we're generally a nation of smaller men and Colwill is nice mix of size/technical skill which makes him stand-out.
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