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Post by robin1864 on Dec 16, 2021 19:45:27 GMT
Belgium ffs. Can we get a redraw?
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Post by bale-droed on Dec 16, 2021 19:58:10 GMT
For me personally I’ll be living in Wales for the first time in 7 years so I’m happy with Belgium Again and Netherlands as it could be a great bus trip
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 20:41:15 GMT
Pointless question i guess but i half expected us to get the germans,seems ages since we played them in a competitive game,remember the ian rush goal and giggs coming on as a sub to make his debut in a 4-1 defeat in the return game, i am guessing i have got that totally wrong and it wasn't in the same qualifiying group but i honestly can't remember and am to lazy to look it up ,think i am totally wrong about all this but we haven't played them for awhile have we? like i said pointless question and that is what forums are for after all  |
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Post by caeboy on Dec 16, 2021 20:51:57 GMT
Thankfully we didn't get England, so we can just enjoy the league with no pressure or expectations. Poland are no great shakes if Lewandowski doesn't play.
The World Cup Play offs are the games that really matter.
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Post by iot on Dec 16, 2021 20:56:37 GMT
Pointless question i guess but i half expected us to get the germans,seems ages since we played them in a competitive game,remember the ian rush goal and giggs coming on as a sub to make his debut in a 4-1 defeat in the return game, i am guessing i have got that totally wrong and it wasn't in the same qualifiying group but i honestly can't remember and am to lazy to look it up ,think i am totally wrong about all this but we haven't played them for awhile have we? like i said pointless question and that is what forums are for after all Played against them under Toshack. If I remember correctly, we lost 2-0 at home after a decent performance - one of Ramsey's first games for us. And then we managed a 0-0 draw in Dusseldorf after they had already topped the group |
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Post by manulike on Dec 16, 2021 21:05:26 GMT
Love our draw. If there was no corona, I would have been over the moon with the ROI draw (Ukraine and Armenia!) Happy travels, oscardelta ! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 21:11:57 GMT
I do find the scotland v irish as pretty interesting,mostly because the irish seemed to drag us down into a dogfight that played to their level,be interesting how the scots deal with them now they are clearly better than they have been for awhile,guessing two 0-0 or 1-0 nill either way,bloody irish |
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Post by Albert on Dec 16, 2021 21:22:30 GMT
Do uefa sort the fixtures or the nations thrash it out between themselves?
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 16, 2021 21:57:19 GMT
Not sure but the fixtures will be finalised tomorrow.
Im hoping for an Amsterdam Warsaw double header in June then Brussels in September.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 22:01:26 GMT
i was thinking that earlier,is it a straight computer draw or do the folks from each fa get together and talk it out,be better to get poland ang netherland away in one international window if they do i guess
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Post by fwytawrmoron on Dec 16, 2021 22:03:12 GMT
Pointless question i guess but i half expected us to get the germans,seems ages since we played them in a competitive game,remember the ian rush goal and giggs coming on as a sub to make his debut in a 4-1 defeat in the return game, i am guessing i have got that totally wrong and it wasn't in the same qualifiying group but i honestly can't remember and am to lazy to look it up ,think i am totally wrong about all this but we haven't played them for awhile have we? like i said pointless question and that is what forums are for after all You're spot on. We drew East and West Germany (very convenient when the countries merged) for the Euro 92 qualifiers. 1-0 at the old National Stadium, Ian Rush as you mentioned. The return at Nuremberg was my first Wales away game. Good trip but a footballing lesson. Incidentally, Belgium were also in the group and we beat them 3-1 at home in a very entertaining game. |
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 16, 2021 22:54:40 GMT
I quite like this draw, it's getting weird with Belgium now, we are playing the best side in the World more than anybody else and to be honest we nearly always give them a very good game, I never thought I'd be saying that about Wales when I was sat on a school bus getting it ripped out of me after the 5-0 Georgia defeat! I like having Poland and Netherlands, I feel like we can cause them both a lot of problems, we just need the key players fit and the emerging ones to keep on progressing. I'm disturbingly optimistic about this!
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Post by Agent B on Dec 16, 2021 22:54:54 GMT
Looking at the likely away locations: Poland - all games in Warsaw Netherlands - Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Eindhoven and other smaller venues Belgium - almost all in Brussels In the last NL campaign: Poland played in Chorzow, Wroclaw & Gdansk. Netherlands played all in Amsterdam. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 16, 2021 23:06:41 GMT
That throws a spanner in the works, would have been nice and easy if all games were in Warsaw like the WC qualifiers.
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 17, 2021 5:39:55 GMT
Is it just me that can’t get excited by this draw. Feels like one big yawn especially with Belgium for the 900th time in the past few years.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 17, 2021 6:57:50 GMT
8 games against the Netherlands in our history, 8 losses. Time to make history?
That is an excellent draw, I think we've drawn the best possible opponents from all 3 pots and the away days look very doable. I've been meaning to visit Warsaw so I'm very excited about that one in particular.
Belgium - We've shown time and time again that we're capable of a result against these. The alternatives were the European Champions, the best team (on paper) in the world or Spain who battered us the last time we faced them.
Netherlands - Portugal and Germany have better teams on paper and we have struggled against Denmark in recent years.
Poland - Only Croatia have a comparable team on paper but I believe they're still a better team than Poland.
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Post by superunknown on Dec 17, 2021 8:12:56 GMT
Is it just me that can’t get excited by this draw. Feels like one big yawn especially with Belgium for the 900th time in the past few years. Would have preferred someone else other than Belgium (maybe not Italy) but I really quite like it. From an away travel perspective it's very exciting. All pretty close games, easily accessible and should be cheap flights over as well. Think it's a group that will allow us to prove how far we've come as we've got a chance of causing some decent upsets in that group. Proved we can do it with Belgium time and again, got a great chance against an out of sorts Netherlands and Poland. If it was France, Germany, England I probably would have been accepting relegation already. |
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Post by vvm on Dec 17, 2021 9:11:39 GMT
Read from Dale Johnson on Twitter that 1st and 2nd in the group and the best 3 third place teams are likely to be seeded for the Euro 2024 draw. Could be massive in how easy we make Euro 2024 qualification for ourselves.
I think a realistic aim should be finishing as one of the best third place teams or possibly 2nd. Important we stay in league A.
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 17, 2021 9:27:17 GMT
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Post by superunknown on Dec 17, 2021 9:51:07 GMT
RIP the Netherlands Belgium double header, we hardly knew ye
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Post by georgetm1 on Dec 17, 2021 10:35:55 GMT
I am so doing the Poland away trip. I've already lived there before in Lodz and speak the language so this is the perfect excuse to go. Wales fans will love it there.
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Post by manulike on Dec 17, 2021 10:47:55 GMT
Do the Polaks play in Warsaw?
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Post by rhys on Dec 17, 2021 10:58:01 GMT
Do the Polaks play in Warsaw? Last Nations League was split between Gdańsk, Wroclaw and Chorzow. That was against better opposition than us so don’t think we’ll be playing in Warsaw. |
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Post by manulike on Dec 17, 2021 11:00:20 GMT
Do the Polaks play in Warsaw? Last Nations League was split between Gdańsk, Wroclaw and Chorzow. That was against better opposition than us so don’t think we’ll be playing in Warsaw. Thanks. Looks like is a wait and see game then ;-( I hear that Gdańsk is lovely ;-)
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Post by superunknown on Dec 17, 2021 11:03:18 GMT
Do the Polaks play in Warsaw? Last Nations League was split between Gdańsk, Wroclaw and Chorzow. That was against better opposition than us so don’t think we’ll be playing in Warsaw. Tbf this was during covid times and crowds were limited. They played every WC qualifying game in Warsaw. |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Dec 17, 2021 12:03:44 GMT
Pointless question i guess but i half expected us to get the germans,seems ages since we played them in a competitive game,remember the ian rush goal and giggs coming on as a sub to make his debut in a 4-1 defeat in the return game, i am guessing i have got that totally wrong and it wasn't in the same qualifiying group but i honestly can't remember and am to lazy to look it up ,think i am totally wrong about all this but we haven't played them for awhile have we? like i said pointless question and that is what forums are for after all Played against them under Toshack. If I remember correctly, we lost 2-0 at home after a decent performance - one of Ramsey's first games for us. And then we managed a 0-0 draw in Dusseldorf after they had already topped the group If I remember correctly, that was the game that Germany took the throw when it was clearly a Wales throw in and Ballack scored from it. Ref just waived away protests. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Dec 17, 2021 12:25:57 GMT
I am so doing the Poland away trip. I've already lived there before in Lodz and speak the language so this is the perfect excuse to go. Wales fans will love it there. Judging by the bus firm that will take Wales fans from the airport, they don't seem very friendly.... |
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Post by rhys on Dec 17, 2021 12:52:38 GMT
Last Nations League was split between Gdańsk, Wroclaw and Chorzow. That was against better opposition than us so don’t think we’ll be playing in Warsaw. Tbf this was during covid times and crowds were limited. They played every WC qualifying game in Warsaw. The same for 18/19. Qualifiers in Warsaw and every other game spread around. I’d love Gdańsk personally. |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Dec 17, 2021 14:22:49 GMT
in big boy league now. tough and good aways days
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Post by seenitallbefore on Dec 17, 2021 14:42:32 GMT
Pointless question i guess but i half expected us to get the germans,seems ages since we played them in a competitive game,remember the ian rush goal and giggs coming on as a sub to make his debut in a 4-1 defeat in the return game, i am guessing i have got that totally wrong and it wasn't in the same qualifiying group but i honestly can't remember and am to lazy to look it up ,think i am totally wrong about all this but we haven't played them for awhile have we? like i said pointless question and that is what forums are for after all You are spot on. Went to both matches and it was Nuremburg in the reverse game. Saunders also got sent off and do you remember the right back, was it McGuire who was playing for Portsmouth at the time - had a stinker. |
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