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Post by cynonvalley on Jun 18, 2022 0:00:44 GMT
Germany will be a great host. Will definitely go.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Jun 18, 2022 12:57:40 GMT
Guaranteed at least Pot 2 for qualifying, and a play-off is all but guaranteed - so it's a nice start for us four months before the draw is made. All down to our results from the last Nations League campaign, which also allowed us the opportunity to qualify for the World Cup.
If we don't make the top two - the play-offs would be us against any other sides in League A that don't qualify. If there isn't four sides in League A that don't qualify (very likely) then the remaining sides would be made up out of sides from League B/C that haven't done well enough in the Nations League to make the play-offs.
For 2020 Iceland had a draw of:
Iceland (League A) vs Romania (League C)
Bulgaria (League C) vs Hungary (League C)
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 18, 2022 14:38:02 GMT
Guaranteed at least Pot 2 for qualifying, and a play-off is all but guaranteed - so it's a nice start for us four months before the draw is made. All down to our results from the last Nations League campaign, which also allowed us the opportunity to qualify for the World Cup. If we don't make the top two - the play-offs would be us against any other sides in League A that don't qualify. If there isn't four sides in League A that don't qualify (very likely) then the remaining sides would be made up out of sides from League B/C that haven't done well enough in the Nations League to make the play-offs. For 2020 Iceland had a draw of: Iceland (League A) vs Romania (League C) Bulgaria (League C) vs Hungary (League C) It bodes very well for us. I really hope we get a 6 team group and the draw is a bit kinder on us this time. We've had some tough draws for the 2018, 2020 and 2022 groups. Feels like we always get tough pot C teams 2018 - Serbia, Ireland, Austria & Georgia were all bad draws 2020 - Hungary & Slovakia were tough draws 2022 - Czechs were a very tough draw, and we did well to overcome them A dream group would be something like this...(using current standings) Cymru Montenegro Kazakhstan Faroe Islands Gibraltar San Marino |
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Post by steveh on Jun 19, 2022 8:17:07 GMT
That would be a great draw to qualify but a nightmare from a fan’s perspective of travel and away allocations.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 19, 2022 10:19:04 GMT
That would be a great draw to qualify but a nightmare from a fan’s perspective of travel and away allocations. Yeah but then we'll all be off to Germany, so swings and roundabouts |
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 19, 2022 13:45:04 GMT
Guaranteed at least Pot 2 for qualifying, and a play-off is all but guaranteed - so it's a nice start for us four months before the draw is made. All down to our results from the last Nations League campaign, which also allowed us the opportunity to qualify for the World Cup. If we don't make the top two - the play-offs would be us against any other sides in League A that don't qualify. If there isn't four sides in League A that don't qualify (very likely) then the remaining sides would be made up out of sides from League B/C that haven't done well enough in the Nations League to make the play-offs. For 2020 Iceland had a draw of: Iceland (League A) vs Romania (League C) Bulgaria (League C) vs Hungary (League C) It bodes very well for us. I really hope we get a 6 team group and the draw is a bit kinder on us this time. We've had some tough draws for the 2018, 2020 and 2022 groups. Feels like we always get tough pot C teams 2018 - Serbia, Ireland, Austria & Georgia were all bad draws 2020 - Hungary & Slovakia were tough draws 2022 - Czechs were a very tough draw, and we did well to overcome them A dream group would be something like this...(using current standings) Cymru Montenegro Kazakhstan Faroe Islands Gibraltar San Marino I’m currently over from Australia for a couple of months. If we got that draw in October I wouldn’t go back. I’d go to every away game |
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Post by cadno on Jun 22, 2022 17:17:32 GMT
Hopefully not but I think Ramsey, Bale & Allen will retire after the world cup.
Is this the kind of best xi we could be looking at?
Ward
Mepham Rodon Davies(c)
CR Ampadu Morrell Neco
Wilson James
Moore
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 22, 2022 17:56:36 GMT
I don’t think they will. The qualifiers will start 3 months after the World Cup finishes with the 2024 finals 18 months later. They’ll have a crack at one more tournament
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Post by jbt95 on Jun 22, 2022 18:08:33 GMT
Allen & Ramsey would be insane to retire after the World Cup. Ramsey will only be 33 and a half when the EURO begins. I hope Bale will play and finish after it.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 22, 2022 23:01:14 GMT
Bale seems like he's on his last legs to me, he's had a very long career despite being relatively young, and just seems like he hasn't got it in him anymore to play week in week out
Ramsey & Allen don't strike me as having lost much physicality, and usually midfielders can go on a little longer than explosive wingers. I think Ramsey will go to Cardiff, get himself ready for the WC, play brilliantly, then put himself back in the market for a decent move. Right now, no one will be willing to go for him with his injury record & salary. I think he's got one more tournament in him, and I think he'll continue to be a big player for us until then
Allen has another tournament in him too, but feel he might just be a squad player by Euro 2024, coming on to see out games possibly
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 23, 2022 9:35:17 GMT
I can't see Bale wanting to end his career in an empty stadium in Qatar
Another 18 months on favourable terms and he could become the first (and let's be honest, only) ever Welsh player to captain his country to 3 consecutive tournaments
One last crack at the Euros with players like Wilson and Ampadu starting to hit their prime? Sounds good to me
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Post by talyfan on Jun 23, 2022 10:16:42 GMT
I mean the likes of Ramsey, Allen and Bale could well play until the EUROS, players are extending the longevity of their careers now. Frankly the only one I see nailed on playing out the trio is Allen by then but will stress not ruling it out! Given the fact he's already playing at a lower level and is fit enough to continue enduring playing regularly.
Bale and Ramsey for a club side where there are more demands and expectation to play regularly given the small fortune clubs are paying for them. In an ideal world if they took a pay cut, played at a good level and featured enough to keep them sharp it'd be great. Realistically though it works almost as a triangle:-
Not willing to take a pay cut, means they will play at a good level but not feature regularly to keep them sharp.
Feature regularly and play at a good level means they'll likely need a pay cut
I can't really speak for either of them but I imagine ending your career at the highest level you can has some draw to it unless you get paid an absolute wedge in America or Qatar or somewhere like that. I could definitely see Bale playing out in America, no pressure, great weather if he get the right team, no language barrier.
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Post by cymro on Jun 23, 2022 10:22:33 GMT
Germany 2024 will feel like France 2016 again. Can't see anyone wanting to miss out on that one and it's not that far way. Be great if they stick around for one more proper European tournament (health permitting). Their international careers will have come full circle then.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 23, 2022 10:28:05 GMT
One this is for sure, Gunter will be out of the picture as a player by then. Right??
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 23, 2022 13:12:25 GMT
I can't see Bale wanting to end his career in an empty stadium in QatarAnother 18 months on favourable terms and he could become the first (and let's be honest, only) ever Welsh player to captain his country to 3 consecutive tournaments One last crack at the Euros with players like Wilson and Ampadu starting to hit their prime? Sounds good to me I can see him wanting to end his career at a World Cup that he's taken us to for the first time in 60 years I don't think his body has another 18 months in it. Happy to be proven wrong, but a 16 year career takes it's toll. All the noises seem confirm that's what he's thinking |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 23, 2022 13:13:51 GMT
One this is for sure, Gunter will be out of the picture as a player by then. Right?? I think after the World Cup we will be looking more to the future, yes |
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Post by welshrover on Sept 25, 2022 21:32:14 GMT
Apparently the qualifying draw takes place on October 9th!
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 25, 2022 21:37:51 GMT
Poland from pot 1 please.
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 25, 2022 22:19:53 GMT
Some tricky teams in pot 3
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 25, 2022 22:23:21 GMT
Some tricky teams in pot 3 Sweden the obvious avoid. 7 games against them in our history, 6 losses and 1 draw. Expensive trip too. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 25, 2022 22:42:57 GMT
Hungary or Poland from pot 1, Armenia from pot 3 and I'm convinced we'll qualify. Need to wait to see where more team fall re: the pots. England and France as 2nd seeds is surprising. I bet Hungary/Poland will be cursing it if they draw either of them
Would love to see England finally get a tough draw. Let's see them get a Spain/Italy/Portugal/Netherlands, and then get a Sweden/Serbia and a Turkey/Greece. Make them sweat for once
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 25, 2022 22:43:55 GMT
Guaranteed at least Pot 2 for qualifying, and a play-off is all but guaranteed - so it's a nice start for us four months before the draw is made. All down to our results from the last Nations League campaign, which also allowed us the opportunity to qualify for the World Cup. If we don't make the top two - the play-offs would be us against any other sides in League A that don't qualify. If there isn't four sides in League A that don't qualify (very likely) then the remaining sides would be made up out of sides from League B/C that haven't done well enough in the Nations League to make the play-offs. For 2020 Iceland had a draw of: Iceland (League A) vs Romania (League C) Bulgaria (League C) vs Hungary (League C) It bodes very well for us. I really hope we get a 6 team group and the draw is a bit kinder on us this time. We've had some tough draws for the 2018, 2020 and 2022 groups. Feels like we always get tough pot C teams 2018 - Serbia, Ireland, Austria & Georgia were all bad draws 2020 - Hungary & Slovakia were tough draws 2022 - Czechs were a very tough draw, and we did well to overcome them A dream group would be something like this...(using current standings) Cymru Montenegro Kazakhstan Faroe Islands Gibraltar San Marino No chance, that's an England Group. Can see something like.. Spain Wales Serbia Turkey Slovakia |
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Post by cadno on Sept 25, 2022 22:57:09 GMT
Can we get a mixed A/B side together at some opportunity before these qualifiers? Give some fringe players a chance?
Ward
Sorba Cabango Rodon Fox
Levitt Evans
Hedges Colwill James
M.Harries
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 26, 2022 7:49:57 GMT
Can we get a mixed A/B side together at some opportunity before these qualifiers? Give some fringe players a chance? Ward Sorba Cabango Rodon Fox Levitt Evans Hedges Colwill James M.Harries Just don't think there's any time for it unless we get a 5 team group. I can't see clubs signing off these players for an unofficial friendly either. This Nations League just gone has given chances to lots of fringe players mind. |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Sept 26, 2022 10:59:11 GMT
Some tough sides in all the pots. With the expanded Euros I thought we'd be near guaranteed a spot for the next couple of tournaments but looking at some of the pots I'm not so sure, some potentially very tricky ties in there.
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Post by eppingblue1 on Sept 26, 2022 11:36:24 GMT
Some tough sides in all the pots. With the expanded Euros I thought we'd be near guaranteed a spot for the next couple of tournaments but looking at some of the pots I'm not so sure, some potentially very tricky ties in there. Must be a fairly high chance of a play off place if I'm understanding it right. It would take 4 teams above us in league A not to qualify directly for us not to get a place in the play offs. Although with some of those teams in pot 2 and 3 they could be tricky in themselves. |
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Post by bale-droed on Sept 26, 2022 12:01:22 GMT
Can we get a mixed A/B side together at some opportunity before these qualifiers? Give some fringe players a chance? Ward Sorba Cabango Rodon Fox Levitt Evans Hedges Colwill James M.Harries Just don't think there's any time for it unless we get a 5 team group. I can't see clubs signing off these players for an unofficial friendly either. This Nations League just gone has given chances to lots of fringe players mind. And that’s something we might look back on in 2 years and be very glad of |
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Post by dai on Sept 26, 2022 13:35:10 GMT
I hope we bring in some new faces for the 2024 qualifiers, and I hope we don't constrain ourselves to 5 at the back, which evidently hasn't worked every single time this campaign.
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Post by jimmytaff on Sept 26, 2022 14:07:25 GMT
We simply have to qualify for Germany 2024...it will be incredible Will go for sure - hoping it"s my first ever tournament! Other than France has to be the dream venue for the Euros. I'll probably go even if we don't qualify |
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Post by bale-droed on Sept 26, 2022 14:30:39 GMT
Will go for sure - hoping it"s my first ever tournament! Other than France has to be the dream venue for the Euros. I'll probably go even if we don't qualify I agree. Absolute dream location. 2028 will probably be that stupid UK and Ireland bid so if we qualify it wi t be as special to us if we qualify. I personally love a 1 country host. Apart from Germany and other obvious candidates like Spain, Italy, France, is move to see Turkey, Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan get it. Tbh I’m surprised Kazakhstan has never bid |
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