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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 1, 2022 14:58:13 GMT
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 1, 2022 15:01:47 GMT
Manny's career was insane and very well managed I'd say, the defeats made him the amazing fighter that he was and only added to his legacy because of the way he bounced back so brilliantly from them. I would never have a problem with anyone saying he's the best of all time, he was that good. When you go through his career on here boxrec.com/en/proboxer/6129 you can see what an incredible career he had, he was such an exciting fighter to watch. Like Joe, we'll never see another like it, such is the way boxing is these days. I'm sorry, but for a boxer in his prime to miss out on a fight with Mayweather because of blood tests you can't argue that he was well managed. After his loss to Mayweather he was not training as hard and mostly relying on his quality, and it showed as the KO's started to turn to UD's. If he was well managed someone should have told him it is all or nothing. That would have stopped the wins from turning into poor losses. I'm going to respectfully disagree with you here. The man had 72 fights, lost 8.By the time he fought Mayweather Jnr when he was nearing the tail end of his career he was on 5 defeats, he lost and he was robbed against Jeff Horn just like he was in the first Bradley fight. He then loses his last fight against Ugas when he's 42 years old and clearly on he decline. 8 career defeats, 2 absolute robberies and one at the end of his career that happens to everyone who carries on too long. A number of great trilogies, some sensational performances against the likes of Cotto, Margarito, Hatton and Thurman to name but a few. His legacy is amazing, as was his career. If he didn't suffer that early defeat in his career to a journeyman would he have become as good as he did? If he hadn't lost to Morales there wouldn't have been that brilliant trilogy that really catapulted him into the big time etc. etc. Yes he didn't fight Myweather Jnr when he should have but look at his career, its's Hollywood stuff, he was THE man of his era and despite not fighting Floyd when he should have he still delivered time and time again, the most exciting fighter of his generation. |
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Post by saturn9 on Jun 4, 2022 18:53:16 GMT
Hopefully by midnight, we have a new World Champion in Cordina. My interest in boxing is minimal these days, apart from the lighter weight fighters from Asia and South America/USA.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 4, 2022 21:47:11 GMT
Wow! Absolutely crunched the bloke with one huge shot! New World Champion for Wales!
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Post by jimexotic on Jun 5, 2022 1:05:26 GMT
Just got back from DJing and seen it, I thought he'd win but not like that, cracking shot and a very well done to Joe, hopefully the start of a great weekend for Welsh sport!
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Post by hooky on Jun 5, 2022 6:27:20 GMT
I think Wales has produced the third highest number or boxing world champions per million people? Only Puerto Rica and Panama are higher.
Unfortunately, Ireland are usually cited as third as the record of Welsh boxers tends to get categorised under GB.
Pretty incredible what a sporting nation Wales is - we literally punch well above our weight and not just in one sport. Most be the fitness demanded by our mountainous terrain and the working class culture.
Come on boys - the world is against us and so is the weather today. You can do it though!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 5, 2022 7:27:16 GMT
I think Wales has produced the third highest number or boxing world champions per million people? Only Puerto Rica and Panama are higher. Unfortunately, Ireland are usually cited as third as the record of Welsh boxers tends to get categorised under GB. Pretty incredible what a sporting nation Wales is - we literally punch well above our weight and not just in one sport. Most be the fitness demanded by our mountainous terrain and the working class culture. Come on boys - the world is against us and so is the weather today. You can do it though! That's a fantastic stat! |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Jun 5, 2022 10:06:09 GMT
World Champions per capita (per million). The isn't a complete list.
Puerto Rico - 21.60
Panama - 5.33
Northern Ireland - 4.21
Wales - 4.19
Ireland - 3.2
Scotland - 2.75
England - 1.50
US - 1.38
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 5, 2022 12:12:04 GMT
Absolutely brilliant stats fair play.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 5, 2022 12:42:32 GMT
World Champions per capita (per million). The isn't a complete list. Puerto Rico - 21.60 Panama - 5.33 Northern Ireland - 4.21 Wales - 4.19 Ireland - 3.2 Scotland - 2.75 England - 1.50 US - 1.38 I'd have thought the Cubans would have been in there somewhere. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Jun 5, 2022 13:22:04 GMT
World Champions per capita (per million). The isn't a complete list. Puerto Rico - 21.60 Panama - 5.33 Northern Ireland - 4.21 Wales - 4.19 Ireland - 3.2 Scotland - 2.75 England - 1.50 US - 1.38 I'd have thought the Cubans would have been in there somewhere. Cuba is only 1.59, due to Cuban's having to defect from the nation in order to compete professionally and win a professional world title. They have however won 41 Olympic gold's, second only to the US, which will comfortably be the highest per capita. |
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Post by saturn9 on Jun 7, 2022 19:22:47 GMT
Watched Inoue v Donito on yt this afternoon. Inoue p4p one of the best?? One of the most entertaining fighters out there.
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 17, 2022 12:35:33 GMT
Watched Inoue v Donito on yt this afternoon. Inoue p4p one of the best?? One of the most entertaining fighters out there. He played with Butler for 11 rounds this week before brutally stopping him. He really does live up to his "Monster" nickname, he just needs more exposure, I think going up in weight will help that as long as he isn't continually avoided. |
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 17, 2022 12:41:40 GMT
Not sure what had been going on in the 3 years prior to this but 50kg is a hell of a lot of weight to be cutting
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 12, 2023 23:55:39 GMT
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 22, 2023 17:03:21 GMT
Big night at the Cardiff International Arena, Joe Cordina, who for me looks awful from the weight cut, looking to regain his IBF World Super Featherweight Title tonight after being stripped of it following injury. Gwynne v Woodruff 2 for the British Lightweight belt looks set to be a cracker if it's even half as good as the first fight.
I'm a bit concerned about Cordina, a great talent but he's had a career hampered by injury and this camp looks like it's been really hard for him, he looks more like a crack addict than a boxer, really drawn and gaunt, he needs to go up in weight, big weight cuts are a young man's game, he's 31 and it's not healthy.
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Post by saturn9 on Apr 22, 2023 17:30:11 GMT
Big night at the Cardiff International Arena, Joe Cordina, who for me looks awful from the weight cut, looking to regain his IBF World Super Featherweight Title tonight after being stripped of it following injury. Gwynne v Woodruff 2 for the British Lightweight belt looks set to be a cracker if it's even half as good as the first fight. I'm a bit concerned about Cordina, a great talent but he's had a career hampered by injury and this camp looks like it's been really hard for him, he looks more like a crack addict than a boxer, really drawn and gaunt, he needs to go up in weight, big weight cuts are a young man's game, he's 31 and it's not healthy. Who you got on DavisvGarcia? Gervonta all day for me. |
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Post by janglingjack on Apr 22, 2023 17:44:12 GMT
Hope cordina wins but as said about that weight cut looks shockin,shades of lee slby,can't see how he can get any power draining like that,hope i'm wrong.
Rakhimov's coach Freddie Roach: "The more you get booed the more it motivates you. I'm not impressed by Cordina's speed and he's slow to make his shots. Rakhimov is stronger and he will tag him and then win by KO." Interesting from roach,can't remember hom ever being so bullish,eems confident,time will tell i suppose.
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 22, 2023 17:55:38 GMT
Big night at the Cardiff International Arena, Joe Cordina, who for me looks awful from the weight cut, looking to regain his IBF World Super Featherweight Title tonight after being stripped of it following injury. Gwynne v Woodruff 2 for the British Lightweight belt looks set to be a cracker if it's even half as good as the first fight. I'm a bit concerned about Cordina, a great talent but he's had a career hampered by injury and this camp looks like it's been really hard for him, he looks more like a crack addict than a boxer, really drawn and gaunt, he needs to go up in weight, big weight cuts are a young man's game, he's 31 and it's not healthy. Who you got on DavisvGarcia? Gervonta all day for me. Head says Davis, heart says Garcia. I like them both and I'm glad they've finally got it on, I think it's going to be a cracker, both can bang and I don't think either will hold back. I'm going with Davis, the rehydration clause gives him an edge here. |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 22, 2023 17:59:32 GMT
Hope cordina wins but as said about that weight cut looks shockin,shades of lee slby,can't see how he can get any power draining like that,hope i'm wrong. Rakhimov's coach Freddie Roach: "The more you get booed the more it motivates you. I'm not impressed by Cordina's speed and he's slow to make his shots. Rakhimov is stronger and he will tag him and then win by KO." Interesting from roach,can't remember hom ever being so bullish,eems confident,time will tell i suppose. Rakhimov was dropped by European level Zelfa Barrett, he only won because Barrett injured himself. I think this is one Cordina edges but not as convincingly as he should, he just looks so unhealthy. In regards to what Roach is saying, I think he's trying to use mind games because he's fully aware of Rakhimov's limitations. I'm a huge fan of Roach but I think he's wrong here, Cordina to use his superior skill to edge it or stop Rakhimov late on. |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 22, 2023 22:50:05 GMT
Amazing fight, well done Joe, boxed beautifully
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 23, 2023 10:31:01 GMT
I was really worried that having Sandy Ryan beating up a punchbag for a belt on before the main event would destroy the atmosphere but Dafydd Iwan doing the ringwalk entrance for Cordina lifted the place beyond expectation, Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau raised things further and then we had 12 brilliant rounds of boxing that particularly burst into life in the second. Rahkimov, sensing early on that Joe was getting on top, butted Cordina and within 30 seconds Cardiff's finest put him on his backside. Rahkimov's heart and desperation to get back into the fight coupled with the speed and skill of Cordina meant that what followed is already a contender for fight of the year. He's some boxer, is Joe Cordina.
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Post by saturn9 on Apr 23, 2023 16:23:57 GMT
I was really worried that having Sandy Ryan beating up a punchbag for a belt on before the main event would destroy the atmosphere but Dafydd Iwan doing the ringwalk entrance for Cordina lifted the place beyond expectation, Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau raised things further and then we had 12 brilliant rounds of boxing that particularly burst into life in the second. Rahkimov, sensing early on that Joe was getting on top, butted Cordina and within 30 seconds Cardiff's finest put him on his backside. Rahkimov's heart and desperation to get back into the fight coupled with the speed and skill of Cordina meant that what followed is already a contender for fight of the year. He's some boxer, is Joe Cordina. Only followed it on BbC text, at 31 he can't be having to many tough fights like that. Easy defence first, then mix it with the elite. Gervonta came to the party again👍👍 |
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 23, 2023 17:23:40 GMT
To be honest Cordina was never really in any trouble, he got slightly wobbled once and clinched but after that he looked comfortable and was picking his shots very well. The stats are very misleading and would have you think that Cordina was in a war but their faces at the end said it all, Rahkimov was battered, face all swollen and cut and he looked absolutely exhausted, Cordina had a red mark from a headbutt. I think Barrett next and then possibly Shaukr Stevenson and bow out on a high, those weights are for young men.
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Post by jimexotic on May 5, 2023 22:10:36 GMT
Jay Harris has just become the British Flyweight champion after a 10th round stoppage of Tommy Frank. Since his very brave performance on foreign soil against the brilliant Julio Cesar Martinez, Jay had struggled somewhat, losing two of his next three fights by knockout, then winning by KO last time out before tonight. With back to back stoppage wins hopefully he can push on and push for another World Title shot before he retires.
Tomorrow night Lauren Price takes part in the first ever women's British title fight, taking on Kirstie Bavington. Many have said that this is a fairly even match up but I think by the end of the fight we'll have seen a significant gulf in quality, Lauren is a seriously talented boxer.
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Post by hooky on May 6, 2023 9:30:40 GMT
Thanks. Was not aware Lauren's fight was tomorrow. What an especially talented sports person she is and she represents the South Wales Valleys so well too  |
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Post by hooky on May 6, 2023 22:06:41 GMT
Lauren Price beats Kirstie Bavington www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/65514056Typical - BBC Wales website did not have the story yet but the BBC boxing website did! Good on you Lauren! |
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Post by jimexotic on May 7, 2023 2:03:21 GMT
Just back from DJing, saw the result, really pleased for her, I think she's going to have one hell of a career, a proper boxer, no gimmicks.
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Post by hooky on May 7, 2023 10:12:34 GMT
Just back from DJing, saw the result, really pleased for her, I think she's going to have one hell of a career, a proper boxer, no gimmicks. The only thing I'd say as a totally ignorant observer is why does she never knock someone down? When I watched her in the Olympics I noted she was really good and fast but the punches did not look that powerful. Yesterday - her punches did look more powerful but despite dominating - her opponent was still standing at the end. I only ask as that ability can really make a difference in the big, big fight and a heavy puncher would presumably feel they could take a few more risks moving forward. As stated I speak as a non expert. Joe Calzaghe was similar, especially towards the back end of his career - so it does not need to stop you! |
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Post by hooky on May 7, 2023 10:15:27 GMT
Cordina regaining his World Championship and 2 new British Champions in a fortnight is not bad going is it!
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