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Post by quetzal on Mar 27, 2022 19:22:14 GMT
We’re in the World Cup draw for first time since 58. Personally I’d love to draw Brazil. Something romantic about that. I want to avoid England. The media shenanigans that surround the match and all that.
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 27, 2022 19:30:41 GMT
We aren't in it, "European Play-Off Winner" is. Gutted if we do qualify we won't get that magical 'Wales' coming out of the bowl moment.
I hope the "European Play-Off Winner" is in a group with no other UEFA team.
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 27, 2022 19:35:03 GMT
If we do manage to qualify the romantic side of me wants no other European teams, something like Brazil, Mexico, South Korea and Wales
The pragmatic side of me would want Qatar, USA and Morocco
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Post by insertname on Mar 27, 2022 19:41:48 GMT
If we do manage to qualify the romantic side of me wants no other European teams, something like Brazil, Mexico, South Korea and Wales The pragmatic side of me would want Qatar, USA and Morocco I know people big this up all the time in non-European world cups…but I’d guess in the Middle East of all places there really will be a potential acclimatisation issue (even in winter). So it might not favour us playing against certain non-European sides. |
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Post by welwyn on Mar 28, 2022 6:47:04 GMT
We aren't in it, "European Play-Off Winner" is. Gutted if we do qualify we won't get that magical 'Wales' coming out of the bowl moment. I hope the "European Play-Off Winner" is in a group with no other UEFA team. I think given there is a limit to 2 UEFA teams in any group and the fact our ball is the only one UEFA one in Pot 4, that is a mathematically miniscule prospect. If they draw it in the order 1,2,3,4. Then being in pot 4 would possibly be a benefit over pot 2 because it would increase the chances of us being moved into a group with Brazil or Argentina out of Pot 1(which surely is the type of game you want to qualify for) or getting Qatar which would obviously be a huge advantage to possibly getting out of the group. |
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 28, 2022 7:21:03 GMT
We aren't in it, "European Play-Off Winner" is. Gutted if we do qualify we won't get that magical 'Wales' coming out of the bowl moment. I hope the "European Play-Off Winner" is in a group with no other UEFA team. I think given there is a limit to 2 UEFA teams in any group and the fact our ball is the only one UEFA one in Pot 4, that is a mathematically miniscule prospect. If they draw it in the order 1,2,3,4. Then being in pot 4 would possibly be a benefit over pot 2 because it would increase the chances of us being moved into a group with Brazil or Argentina out of Pot 1(which surely is the type of game you want to qualify for) or getting Qatar which would obviously be a huge advantage to possibly getting out of the group. Yes it is a slim chance, there’s only 3 non UEFA in pot 1 like you say and we will be the only pot 4, so 7 UEFA amongst pots 2 & 3. I guess if it’s 3 and 4 spilt between the two middle pots we will have to be in a double UEFA group. FIFAs website says they are drawing it pots 1-4. |
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Post by insertname on Mar 28, 2022 7:29:50 GMT
I think given there is a limit to 2 UEFA teams in any group and the fact our ball is the only one UEFA one in Pot 4, that is a mathematically miniscule prospect. If they draw it in the order 1,2,3,4. Then being in pot 4 would possibly be a benefit over pot 2 because it would increase the chances of us being moved into a group with Brazil or Argentina out of Pot 1(which surely is the type of game you want to qualify for) or getting Qatar which would obviously be a huge advantage to possibly getting out of the group. Yes it is a slim chance, there’s only 3 non UEFA in pot 1 like you say and we will be the only pot 4, so 7 UEFA amongst pots 2 & 3. I guess if it’s 3 and 4 spilt between the two middle pots we will have to be in a double UEFA group. FIFAs website says they are drawing it pots 1-4. Doesn’t the maths start with “When we get drawn against Belgium…” and work from there? 🙄 |
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 28, 2022 10:13:08 GMT
Yep guaranteed to be Belgium again. Nice easy three points mind.
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Post by smudger1 on Mar 28, 2022 10:23:28 GMT
We have one more hurdle to overcome to get to Qatar, but after Thursday I have been on cloud 9 and dreaming about the squad we'd take and who may miss out on a 23 man squad to Qatar if everyone is available.
Would you leave out Colwill, and take J. Williams ? Would you dream of dropping Gunts for someone like Beck? Is Cabango or Lockyer better than Mephem? Could Levitt or Smith get ahead of Morrell? Does T. Lawrence have no chance now? Is it too soon for Isaac Davies? Has Harris let us down when he's played and should he go?
Ward Hennessey
Roberts Davies
Neco Gunts
Amps ND
Roden Mephem
Davies
Allen Morrell
Ramsey Sobra
James Johnson
Wilson Matondo
Williams
Roberts
Bale Moore
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 28, 2022 10:28:14 GMT
Let’s get there first
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Post by smudger1 on Mar 28, 2022 12:47:44 GMT
We could end up in a group with Qatar, Mexico and Nigeria. Would be a dream draw to get the hosts as top seeds. Argentina, Holland and Peru would be a great group.
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 28, 2022 13:07:57 GMT
Argentina, Holland and Peru would be a great group. Peru and Argentina are the same confederation so cannot be in the same group. Only exemption is two UEFA teams can be in the same group. |
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Post by insertname on Mar 28, 2022 13:17:49 GMT
Yep guaranteed to be Belgium again. Nice easy three points mind. They might play for a draw like they did in Cardiff mind. |
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Post by insertname on Mar 28, 2022 13:19:15 GMT
Argentina, Holland and Peru would be a great group. Peru and Argentina are the same confederation so cannot be in the same group. Only exemption is two UEFA teams can be in the same group. Are Peru in pot 3?! Could have sworn we couldn’t draw them… |
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Post by bale-droed on Mar 28, 2022 14:15:31 GMT
I had a dream once we had Qatar and we were the opening fixture. We only won 1-0 thanks to a Bale penalty and some people from other countries got critical but no one gave a fuck as we had just won a game at the World Cup.
It’s a hard thing to predict as we don’t know all the seedlings yet but as we are pot 4 I’ll predict
Qatar
England
Tunisia/ Ghana
Wales
That should hurt more then if we fail to qualify
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 28, 2022 15:05:22 GMT
I had a dream once we had Qatar and we were the opening fixture. We only won 1-0 thanks to a Bale penalty and some people from other countries got critical but no one gave a fuck as we had just won a game at the World Cup. It’s a hard thing to predict as we don’t know all the seedlings yet but as we are pot 4 I’ll predict Qatar England Tunisia/ Ghana Wales That should hurt more then if we fail to qualify Qatar & England are both pot 1, see tweets below. Green means locked in pot, blue qualified but can change pot and black not yet qualified but likely. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 28, 2022 17:56:00 GMT
Would be happy with anyone in pot 3 bar Serbia & Poland
Would love Mexico or USA from pot 2 for being a bit different but also beatable. Would love to play Uruguay although would be a very difficult game. The rest aren't great draws
Pot 1 Qatar would be a great draw - high profile but also winnable. If not them then give us Argentina or Brazil and let's hope for a legendary result, again the rest aren't great draws
Absolute best draw IMO; Japan, Mexico, Qatar
Decent (enjoyable) draw; Nigeria, Netherlands, Brazil
Nightmare draw; Serbia, Uruguay, England
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Post by cadno on Mar 28, 2022 17:59:40 GMT
Fuck pragmatism, give me Brazil or Argentina!
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 28, 2022 18:00:37 GMT
If we qualify this is the tournament that Page claims his first scalp. I've said it more times than I ever should but our pace will be a nightmare for anyone who might see us as the soft touch of a group.
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Post by bale-droed on Mar 29, 2022 0:21:17 GMT
I had a dream once we had Qatar and we were the opening fixture. We only won 1-0 thanks to a Bale penalty and some people from other countries got critical but no one gave a fuck as we had just won a game at the World Cup. It’s a hard thing to predict as we don’t know all the seedlings yet but as we are pot 4 I’ll predict Qatar England Tunisia/ Ghana Wales That should hurt more then if we fail to qualify Qatar & England are both pot 1, see tweets below. Green means locked in pot, blue qualified but can change pot and black not yet qualified but likely. How the fuck are they pot 1? I just assumed pot 2. Apart from Qatar are they really sitting at the same table as the rest in A? Is that what beating San Marino and Andorra gets you ? |
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Post by pclaude on Mar 29, 2022 6:39:49 GMT
For progressing, could really do with a European team from pot 1. That said, I'd be really interested in seeing how we'd get on against Brazil or Argentina.
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 29, 2022 9:18:51 GMT
Qatar & England are both pot 1, see tweets below. Green means locked in pot, blue qualified but can change pot and black not yet qualified but likely. How the fuck are they pot 1? I just assumed pot 2. Apart from Qatar are they really sitting at the same table as the rest in A? Is that what beating San Marino and Andorra gets you ? To be fair, they've reached the World Cup semi final and the Euros final in the last 4 years |
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Post by joio on Mar 29, 2022 15:12:30 GMT
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 29, 2022 20:31:22 GMT
Looks like Poland & Portugal are through, both 2-0 up
Scotland were 2-0 up in Austria but have been pegged back
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 29, 2022 21:33:26 GMT
Add Senegal, Ghana, Morocco and Tunisia to the pot
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Post by erasedcitizen on Mar 29, 2022 21:55:46 GMT
Add Senegal, Ghana, Morocco and Tunisia to the pot Senegal beating Egypt on penalties yet again. Obscene. Would like us to face a decent African side in a friendly. England did today. That'd be a decent one to have at the Cae Ras. |
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Post by iot on Mar 29, 2022 22:20:33 GMT
Looks like Poland & Portugal are through, both 2-0 up Scotland were 2-0 up in Austria but have been pegged back Good to see Scotland getting pegged back, and they were fortunate not to concede several more from what I've read. The less confidence they come into Cardiff with the better |
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Post by insertname on Mar 29, 2022 22:54:00 GMT
Looks like Poland & Portugal are through, both 2-0 up Scotland were 2-0 up in Austria but have been pegged back It just doesn’t sit right with me that Sweden had to go to extra time for the honour of being put out by a team who could utilise a strategy in their previous game to keep themselves fresh for this one. Very poor by Uefa not to give the next worst qualifier a chance to ensure Poland had to play two competitive games. |
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Post by cymro on Mar 30, 2022 7:28:15 GMT
Looks like Poland & Portugal are through, both 2-0 up Scotland were 2-0 up in Austria but have been pegged back It just doesn’t sit right with me that Sweden had to go to extra time for the honour of being put out by a team who could utilise a strategy in their previous game to keep themselves fresh for this one. Very poor by Uefa not to give the next worst qualifier a chance to ensure Poland had to play two competitive games. Agreed. If we'd have been knocked out in that fashion we'd be furious. Feel for the Swedes as the odds were stacked heavily against them. Much like us at the Euros but nobody gave a crap. |
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Post by welwyn on Mar 30, 2022 7:32:31 GMT
Feel equally bad for Algeria. Score what they think is the winner in the 119th minute (from the bit I saw after our game, they were battering Cameroon too), they Cameroon score in the 124th to win the game on Away Goals!
I am sorry but I think it is hugely unfair to go out that way in Extra Team when the team away in the 2nd game has had an extra 30mins in the away game.
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