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Post by og on Sept 29, 2024 20:41:24 GMT
Does anyone know when the world cup draw is due to take place?
I assume it's going to be before the end of the year but after the Nations league is finished to see who is going in to the pots?
Can't see a date anywhere?
Diolch
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 29, 2024 21:04:30 GMT
Does anyone know when the world cup draw is due to take place? I assume it's going to be before the end of the year but after the Nations league is finished to see who is going in to the pots? Can't see a date anywhere? Diolch The only info I could find a few months ago was it would take place after the Nations league games so late November/early December first round of games is 21 March 2025
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 29, 2024 21:27:11 GMT
It’s not been confirmed yet, really frustrating!
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Post by superunknown on Sept 30, 2024 8:05:28 GMT
Yeah as said, no confirmed dates yet but our good friends at We Global Football on Twitter have these down as the projected pots. They’ve said Turkey don’t have much of a chance at pot 1 so I think we’re safely in Pot 2. You’d probably just pick the bottom team from most pots for the ideal group really but just want to avoid the big boys from pot 1, Norway, Georgia, probably Scotland and Kazakhstan (though I’d absolutely love to do it as an away).
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Post by fireboy0610 on Sept 30, 2024 8:31:20 GMT
Yeah as said, no confirmed dates yet but our good friends at We Global Football on Twitter have these down as the projected pots. They’ve said Turkey don’t have much of a chance at pot 1 so I think we’re safely in Pot 2. You’d probably just pick the bottom team from most pots for the ideal group really but just want to avoid the big boys from pot 1, Norway, Georgia, probably Scotland and Kazakhstan (though I’d absolutely love to do it as an away). Cheers for that 👍 I'm not bothered who we get as long as we don't get the saes.
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Post by manulike on Sept 30, 2024 17:25:12 GMT
Yeah as said, no confirmed dates yet but our good friends at We Global Football on Twitter have these down as the projected pots. They’ve said Turkey don’t have much of a chance at pot 1 so I think we’re safely in Pot 2. You’d probably just pick the bottom team from most pots for the ideal group really but just want to avoid the big boys from pot 1, Norway, Georgia, probably Scotland and Kazakhstan (though I’d absolutely love to do it as an away). Cheers for that 👍 I'm not bothered who we get as long as we don't get the saes. Would love to get Italy, but really don't mind another trip to Belgium or Croatia - think we have the measure of all those three, allbeit, some here would not look forward to a trip to Italy ;-(
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 30, 2024 17:57:13 GMT
Think Austria, Denmark or Croatia are the best ones to draw from the top pot. As long as we can avoid any dangers from Pot 3 I feel quite confident we can get second
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Post by underwood on Sept 30, 2024 18:06:36 GMT
Think Austria, Denmark or Croatia are the best ones to draw from the top pot. As long as we can avoid any dangers from Pot 3 I feel quite confident we can get second I wouldn’t be confident of finishing above 4th if we drew England, Norway & Armenia.
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Post by eppingblue1 on Sept 30, 2024 18:29:23 GMT
I really hope we get a 5 team group so the fixtures are spread out a bit as well as getting an extra couple of games. Malta away out of pot 5 would be great. Plenty of travel and accommodation. Reasonable allocation as well. Out of pot 1, I think we may be better off getting a team pretty much nailed on to beat us but everyone else as well. I'd like Portugal in Porto preferably. Pot 3 is the tricky bit. At least Serbia have probably got enough points to be out of it. North Macedonia my preference although its a bit of an arse to get to. Big stadium though so plenty of tickets. And out of pot 4 I really fancy Kazakhstan just cause its so mad.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 1, 2024 0:07:08 GMT
Think Austria, Denmark or Croatia are the best ones to draw from the top pot. As long as we can avoid any dangers from Pot 3 I feel quite confident we can get second I wouldn’t be confident of finishing above 4th if we drew England, Norway & Armenia. I mean that would be a tricky draw! But I feel we do much better against Armenia under Bellamy
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Post by zakbaby on Oct 1, 2024 0:42:26 GMT
Austria,Bosnia,Lithuania and San Marino please.
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Post by dragon64 on Oct 1, 2024 4:59:43 GMT
If we get one of the 'big' nations it would be nice to get someone like Spain/Germany /France but a group like zakbaby has suggested would be very nice
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Post by manulike on Oct 1, 2024 11:37:23 GMT
Austria,Bosnia,Lithuania and San Marino please. Probably not a bad draw. But I'd much sooner go back to Latvia than to Lithuania and certainly prefer Bratislava to Vienna ... Although the Austrian white-flag waving in the stadium before ko is quite a sight! A double-header in September to Greece and Malta would be lovely!
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Post by jono on Oct 9, 2024 14:23:05 GMT
apnews.com/article/2026-world-cup-fifa-european-qualifying-draw-d895f1509ace23104cf49da18e5e548cLooks like Uefa/Fifa will be using the 8 Nations League Quarter finalists then the top 4 outside of those in the FIFA World Rankings to decide the 12 Top Seeds for Qualifying. Not sure if this was posted elsewhere. Also, reading Wikipedia it seems they will only be using Nations League group winners to pick the Nations League play off path whereas previously they've used the NL rankings (which got us a Euro Play off last time around). So in short - If we don't win our Nations League group and finish outside the top 2 in Qualifying we are ''F*cked to high heaven.'' 🏴🍺
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Post by jbt95 on Oct 10, 2024 16:46:06 GMT
Also, reading Wikipedia it seems they will only be using Nations League group winners to pick the Nations League play off path whereas previously they've used the NL rankings (which got us a Euro Play off last time around). So in short - If we don't win our Nations League group and finish outside the top 2 in Qualifying we are ''F*cked to high heaven.'' 🏴🍺 Was only group winners for the World Cup qualifying play-offs last time in all fairness, less spots than the euros afterall.
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Post by manulike on Oct 11, 2024 10:37:11 GMT
Sounds like being in a group of five, would mean not only avoiding the top 8 quarter-finalists / best teams from group A of NL - but also that we actually learn who we play in December and not only at the end of March! SAving a massive logistical headache ;-)
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Post by manulike on Oct 14, 2024 15:00:20 GMT
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Post by morg on Nov 20, 2024 8:55:36 GMT
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Post by iot on Nov 20, 2024 9:29:52 GMT
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Post by iot on Nov 20, 2024 9:32:23 GMT
Switzerland Cymru North Macedonia Faroe Islands Malta please drive
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 20, 2024 10:28:12 GMT
It's funny with these new groups and being almost guaranteed a playoff, puts us in a bit of a strange position. Getting 2nd in the group does little for us, so we really have to go for 1st to gain anything
If we draw Portugal, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands then you feel we have a very small chance of outperforming them. Can only see us taking a real stab at top spot if we draw Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark or Austria - if we get one of them with a nice pot 3 we could start to get excited
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 20, 2024 10:33:13 GMT
It's funny with these new groups and being almost guaranteed a playoff, puts us in a bit of a strange position. Getting 2nd in the group does little for us, so we really have to go for 1st to gain anything. Sorry but if we finish below 2nd and get into the play-offs via the Nations League we probably going to have an away semi final. That is what happened to the Nations League winners for the 2022 play-offs. We should not be relying on this back up. This route would give us little chance of progressing in my opinion. We need to try and finish 1st, failing that hopefully a top 8 runner up as that is likely to be a home semi final and avoiding the other best 7 runner ups in that leg. Of course, they could change things as I can't find any reference anywhere as to how they are going to seed the semis, maybe go off FIFA world rankings at the time, but even so... let's try and win the group.
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Post by iot on Nov 20, 2024 10:49:11 GMT
It's funny with these new groups and being almost guaranteed a playoff, puts us in a bit of a strange position. Getting 2nd in the group does little for us, so we really have to go for 1st to gain anything. Sorry but if we finish below 2nd and get into the play-offs via the Nations League we probably going to have an away semi final. That is what happened to the Nations League winners for the 2022 play-offs. We should not be relying on this back up. This route would give us little chance of progressing in my opinion. We need to try and finish 1st, failing that hopefully a top 8 runner up as that is likely to be a home semi final and avoiding the other best 7 runner ups in that leg. Of course, they could change things as I can't find any reference anywhere as to how they are going to seed the semis, maybe go off FIFA world rankings at the time, but even so... let's try and win the group. I was wondering whether there's any benefit getting a playoff spot through the proper WC qualifiers as opposed to the NL route. I thought both semis and the final will be two-legged this time? Also, is there any seeding involved?
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 20, 2024 10:55:58 GMT
Sorry but if we finish below 2nd and get into the play-offs via the Nations League we probably going to have an away semi final. That is what happened to the Nations League winners for the 2022 play-offs. We should not be relying on this back up. This route would give us little chance of progressing in my opinion. We need to try and finish 1st, failing that hopefully a top 8 runner up as that is likely to be a home semi final and avoiding the other best 7 runner ups in that leg. Of course, they could change things as I can't find any reference anywhere as to how they are going to seed the semis, maybe go off FIFA world rankings at the time, but even so... let's try and win the group. I was wondering whether there's any benefit getting a playoff spot through the proper WC qualifiers as opposed to the NL route. I thought both semis and the final will be two-legged this time? Also, is there any seeding involved? They World Cup qualifying play-offs are one-off games again like for the 2020, 2022 and 2024 tournaments, the two leg play-offs are only in the Nations League. 16 teams drawn into 4 path ways, two semi finals and one final per path. There's no official mention of seeding for the paths anywhere, but I'd say it is unlikely to be an open draw. They may decide after conclusion of the group stage!
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 11:05:16 GMT
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Post by dai on Nov 20, 2024 11:08:34 GMT
I think it must have taken a mathematical and engineering genius to create all the qualifying routes which are now in place. Ive given up trying to even begin to work it all out.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 20, 2024 11:13:12 GMT
That post has been deleted. Not making sense just yet then 😆
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 11:18:15 GMT
haha it just has been ! the whole thing is bonkers
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Post by jimexotic on Nov 20, 2024 11:21:16 GMT
We'll just win all of our games and qualify that way
#incraigwetrust
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 11:22:49 GMT
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