|
|
Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 11:39:54 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 20, 2024 11:44:07 GMT
It's funny with these new groups and being almost guaranteed a playoff, puts us in a bit of a strange position. Getting 2nd in the group does little for us, so we really have to go for 1st to gain anything. Sorry but if we finish below 2nd and get into the play-offs via the Nations League we probably going to have an away semi final. That is what happened to the Nations League winners for the 2022 play-offs. We should not be relying on this back up. This route would give us little chance of progressing in my opinion. We need to try and finish 1st, failing that hopefully a top 8 runner up as that is likely to be a home semi final and avoiding the other best 7 runner ups in that leg. Of course, they could change things as I can't find any reference anywhere as to how they are going to seed the semis, maybe go off FIFA world rankings at the time, but even so... let's try and win the group. Yeah fair enough, I'm not too scared of any of the pot 3s (although I'd like to avoid Scotland) so I think 2nd should be a minimum target anyway |
|
|
|
Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 20, 2024 11:47:37 GMT
If I've understood correctly, we're in a group of 5, then the games against the minnows will be the opportunity to experiment further. Otherwise we should go with our strongest 11, albeit allowing for rotation of tired forwards.
|
|
|
|
Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 11:52:57 GMT
its gone again  |
|
|
|
Post by manulike on Nov 20, 2024 12:44:48 GMT
Switzerland Cymru North Macedonia Faroe Islands Malta please drive Yes. Please. Can we just have the North Macedonia and Malta as a double-header in JUNE and the Faroes in September...
|
|
|
|
Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 12:46:15 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by eppingblue1 on Nov 20, 2024 13:06:29 GMT
So can we not get Belgium and Austria who are involved in play offs but can get England and Switzerland who are not ? A bit confused to be honest. Keep thinking its working in our favour - we wont get the better of the 4 teams above and our games will be spread out. Ideally we get the pot 1 team coupled with a friendly fixture. |
|
|
|
Post by morg on Nov 20, 2024 13:12:41 GMT
So in effect, we can't draw any of the semi-finalists from the NL?
And we can't draw Scotland or ROI.
|
|
|
|
Post by superunknown on Nov 20, 2024 13:20:20 GMT
So in effect, we can't draw any of the semi-finalists from the NL? And we can't draw Scotland or ROI. Only if we’re in a 5 team group. There’s still a chance we could be in a 4 team group it’s just far less likely. |
|
|
|
Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 13:35:42 GMT
dale johnson UEFA / ESPN has confirmed we are in a 5 nation group
as the groups are split
Group 1 to 6 (4 nations)
Group 7 to 12 ( 5 nations)
"Pots 2, 3 and 4: the Nations League Play off participants from these pots are in priority allocated to groups of
four"
there are 6 nations in Pot 2,so therefore Wales cannot go into a group of 4
|
|
|
|
Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 13:41:56 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by jbt95 on Nov 20, 2024 13:45:15 GMT
I think it is better we are in a group of 5 anyway, we will get two friendlies mixed between the games which could come in handy for rests/injuries, and means we don't have four friendlies before our next competitive game.
|
|
|
|
Post by morg on Nov 20, 2024 13:58:51 GMT
So in effect, we can't draw any of the semi-finalists from the NL? And we can't draw Scotland or ROI. Only if we’re in a 5 team group. There’s still a chance we could be in a 4 team group it’s just far less likely. As / the twitter link? As there are six playoff teams in Pot 2, prioritised into the six 4-team groups, Wales have to go into a group of 5. |
|
|
|
Post by superunknown on Nov 20, 2024 13:59:33 GMT
Only if we’re in a 5 team group. There’s still a chance we could be in a 4 team group it’s just far less likely. As / the twitter link? As there are six playoff teams in Pot 2, prioritised into the six 4-team groups, Wales have to go into a group of 5. Yeah sorry just seen didn’t realise, good for us! |
|
|
|
Post by morg on Nov 20, 2024 14:08:24 GMT
I presume the draw for the NL QFs is an open one or do Group winners play 2nds ?
I guess given that we can't face the winning QF teams, we wouldn't want two powerhouses drawn together in the QFs.
|
|
|
|
Post by manulike on Nov 20, 2024 14:39:54 GMT
Being in a 5-team group, does that also mean that we are guaranteed to know who the other 4 teams are?
|
|
|
|
Post by CrackityJones on Nov 20, 2024 14:44:57 GMT
I’m glad we don't have to wait until September for our qualifiers to begin. We have at least one in March but are we definitely having one in June or will that be decided when the draw is made? Ideally we’d have them spaced out and not cramming the rest in the autumn.
|
|
|
|
Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 14:57:40 GMT
answer to questions
UNL QF
draw pots 1 and 2
Pot 1
Portugal
France
Germany
Spain
Pot 2
Croatia
Italy
Netherlands
Denmark
Other 4 teams are !!
I presume POT 3/4/5 will be known at drawtime, were as Pot 1 team could be known or an either/or depending on their current pathway
Fixtures will be decided and published by UEFA
"UEFA will issue the European Qualifiers 2024-26 Fixture List with the dates and kick-off times of all 192 group stage matches as soon as possible after the conclusion of the group stage draw on 13 December"
national associations to be told first, then media
then the friendly match consolidation procedure can be begin etc (2 friendlies in 10 Match days)
|
|
|
|
Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 15:03:05 GMT
|
|
majid
steve evans
Posts: 9
|
Post by majid on Nov 20, 2024 15:14:48 GMT
Home qualifying games for the World Cup likely to be played in the Principality Stadium - something to do with proving to UEFA that the Euro 2028 games there will work ok.
|
|
|
|
Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 20, 2024 15:18:18 GMT
Home qualifying games for the World Cup likely to be played in the Principality Stadium - something to do with proving to UEFA that the Euro 2028 games there will work ok. i sincerely hope not, take any friendlies there is fine to prove to UEFA etc |
|
|
|
Post by jimexotic on Nov 20, 2024 15:27:43 GMT
Group of 5 is much better for us, 8 games, if we win half of those and don't totally balls up the others that should be enough for 2nd place
|
|
|
|
Post by conwy10 on Nov 20, 2024 15:30:29 GMT
Does anyone miss the days of having bigger groups? Used to get an elite country and a very good country fighting it out to finish top even though 2 qualify. A decent dark horse in there.
I'd take it if it was us but imagine a World Cup spot going to one of Austria, Greece, Northern Ireland, Azerbaijan, Gibraltar. If I was the coach of Azerbaijan I'd fancy our chances.
|
|
|
|
Post by jbt95 on Nov 20, 2024 15:42:34 GMT
Home qualifying games for the World Cup likely to be played in the Principality Stadium - something to do with proving to UEFA that the Euro 2028 games there will work ok. Was the 2017 Champions League final not enough?! |
|
|
|
Post by abercymru on Nov 20, 2024 21:39:12 GMT
Home qualifying games for the World Cup likely to be played in the Principality Stadium - something to do with proving to UEFA that the Euro 2028 games there will work ok. Nonsense. |
|
|
|
Post by pclaude on Nov 21, 2024 11:07:50 GMT
I think it is better we are in a group of 5 anyway, we will get two friendlies mixed between the games which could come in handy for rests/injuries, and means we don't have four friendlies before our next competitive game. Absolutely. It's madness to want a 4 team group. |
|
|
|
Post by cymru58 on Nov 21, 2024 12:10:49 GMT
Home qualifying games for the World Cup likely to be played in the Principality Stadium - something to do with proving to UEFA that the Euro 2028 games there will work ok. How does that work as we have already purchased campaign tickets covering 24/25 Nations League (3 games) and all home 2026 World Cup qualifying group matches (4 games) with allocated seats? |
|
|
|
Post by manulike on Nov 21, 2024 14:18:12 GMT
Summary of WC draw - with thanks to dragonsoccer dragonsoccer.co.uk/newsite/index.php?id=1007WORLD CUP NOTES Wales are seeded in Pot 2, and because there are 6 Nations League play off teams also in Pot 2, Wales will be allocated into a 5 nation group (Group number 7-12). To note Nations League play-off teams from Pots 2, 3 and 4 are prioritised to 4 nations groups (Group number 1-6) Wales therefore cannot be drawn with nations from Pot 3 (Scotland, Slovenia, ROI, Georgia, Iceland) and from Pot 4 (Bulgaria, Kosovo, Luxembourg, Armenia, Latvia)
The full original post here |
|
|
|
Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 21, 2024 14:55:59 GMT
To clarify the above - there is a missing bit to the logic, which had me scratching my head for a while:
Wales are seeded in Pot 2, and because there are 6 Nations League play off teams also in Pot 2 (and those nations are prioritised places in the 6 available 4 nations groups because of their additional play-off fixtures), Wales will be allocated into a 5 nation group (Group number 7-12).
|
|
|
|
Post by welshlad on Nov 21, 2024 15:04:40 GMT
Best case.
Austria
Wales
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Faroe Islands
San Marino
|
|
