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Post by ch7 on Jun 27, 2022 22:37:59 GMT
If you're in stage 2 or have people you're going with in stage 2+ I'd be tempted to go with the FIFA allocation. You're guaranteed to be with the people you're going with then. So stupid that FIFA general sale opens the same time as FAW priority ones. It's not impossible that stage 2 fans won't get tickets but general sale can. Then it might be too late then to buy general sale if you wait And you can always transfer them if luck enough to get both you follow fifas guidelines Please expand
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Post by pclaude on Jun 27, 2022 22:49:01 GMT
Why? Moot as they won’t be restricted now and will be on general sale on 5 July. Except the FAW own allocation CH7 has covered it. FIFA arent going to delay general sale any longer than they absolutely need to. The same applied to many qualified teams I think in that they were able to enter the general ballot or get tickets from their own FA.
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Post by idj68 on Jun 28, 2022 5:02:16 GMT
And you can always transfer them if luck enough to get both you follow fifas guidelines Please expand Checking the fifa website - the original purchaser is allowed to transfer on the ticket under their t & c s ( face value ) or put back for fifa to re allocate. Therefore possible for those in pot 2 to purchase from fifa Tuesday and from the remaining FAW on the Thursday and then safe in the knowledge they will be in the Red Wall end return or pass on the fifa ticket How easy that will be goodness knows , I wish the FAW had surveyed the categories to gauge interest as have no clue if 2k Red Wall members going or 5k?? Apologies if not clear originally 🏴
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Post by pclaude on Jun 28, 2022 7:41:06 GMT
Checking the fifa website - the original purchaser is allowed to transfer on the ticket under their t & c s ( face value ) or put back for fifa to re allocate. Therefore possible for those in pot 2 to purchase from fifa Tuesday and from the remaining FAW on the Thursday and then safe in the knowledge they will be in the Red Wall end return or pass on the fifa ticket How easy that will be goodness knows , I wish the FAW had surveyed the categories to gauge interest as have no clue if 2k Red Wall members going or 5k?? Apologies if not clear originally 🏴 Possibly because they’ve not found surveys accurate in the past? Or more likely, they didn’t have time.
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Post by cymro on Jun 28, 2022 8:03:27 GMT
Checking the fifa website - the original purchaser is allowed to transfer on the ticket under their t & c s ( face value ) or put back for fifa to re allocate. Therefore possible for those in pot 2 to purchase from fifa Tuesday and from the remaining FAW on the Thursday and then safe in the knowledge they will be in the Red Wall end return or pass on the fifa ticket How easy that will be goodness knows , I wish the FAW had surveyed the categories to gauge interest as have no clue if 2k Red Wall members going or 5k?? Apologies if not clear originally 🏴 A bit of a risk having 2 applications for the same match based on reading the FAQs: Can I be a guest and the main applicant of two different ticket application for the same match?
No. Tickets cannot be purchased for the same match by the same person, whether a ticket applicant or a guest, by way of multiple applications. Should FIFA Ticketing detect, even after the purchase confirmation, any circumvention of the sales restrictions, FIFA Ticketing reserves the right to cancel all tickets allocated to the ticket applicant. According to the Online Ticket Terms of Sale for the General Public, if FIFA Ticketing cancels a ticket due to a breach of those Terms of Sale, the Terms of Use or the Stadium Code of Conduct by the ticket applicant or any guest of the ticket applicant, the ticket applicant shall not be entitled to a refund or any other form of compensation.So if you were to buy in the general sale on Tuesday and then with the FAW code on Thursday, there will be 2 ticket applications in your name and you run the risk of them both being cancelled if it gets noticed before you have the chance to resell the unwanted tickets.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 28, 2022 8:25:27 GMT
Is the FIFA general sale today or has it been delayed as well? I cant find any mention of it on their the ticket website
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Post by Martyn Moses on Jun 28, 2022 9:41:23 GMT
Is the FIFA general sale today or has it been delayed as well? I cant find any mention of it on their the ticket website I thought that as well but nothing there at the moment , maybe it's been put back to the 5th also ?
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Post by TheWelshWay on Jun 28, 2022 11:29:28 GMT
I thought that was the reason FAW sale was put back to 5th July to match FIFA general sale opening which was delayed.
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Post by lawthom on Jun 28, 2022 11:30:52 GMT
Yes 100% July 5th
We emailed FAW yesterday to confirm general sale and they confirmed both Welsh tickets and general ticket sale is July 5th
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Post by idj68 on Jun 28, 2022 16:12:53 GMT
Checking the fifa website - the original purchaser is allowed to transfer on the ticket under their t & c s ( face value ) or put back for fifa to re allocate. Therefore possible for those in pot 2 to purchase from fifa Tuesday and from the remaining FAW on the Thursday and then safe in the knowledge they will be in the Red Wall end return or pass on the fifa ticket How easy that will be goodness knows , I wish the FAW had surveyed the categories to gauge interest as have no clue if 2k Red Wall members going or 5k?? Apologies if not clear originally 🏴 A bit of a risk having 2 applications for the same match based on reading the FAQs: Can I be a guest and the main applicant of two different ticket application for the same match?
No. Tickets cannot be purchased for the same match by the same person, whether a ticket applicant or a guest, by way of multiple applications. Should FIFA Ticketing detect, even after the purchase confirmation, any circumvention of the sales restrictions, FIFA Ticketing reserves the right to cancel all tickets allocated to the ticket applicant. According to the Online Ticket Terms of Sale for the General Public, if FIFA Ticketing cancels a ticket due to a breach of those Terms of Sale, the Terms of Use or the Stadium Code of Conduct by the ticket applicant or any guest of the ticket applicant, the ticket applicant shall not be entitled to a refund or any other form of compensation.So if you were to buy in the general sale on Tuesday and then with the FAW code on Thursday, there will be 2 ticket applications in your name and you run the risk of them both being cancelled if it gets noticed before you have the chance to resell the unwanted tickets. This is was I love this forum - I’m shite at the small print !! Big thanks 🏴 ….
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Post by bolter on Jun 28, 2022 20:13:56 GMT
Can't you get someone else to buy in the general sale and then either get them transferred to you or list them depending on you being successful with the FAW allocation?
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Post by idj68 on Jun 28, 2022 21:36:24 GMT
Can't you get someone else to buy in the general sale and then either get them transferred to you or list them depending on you being successful with the FAW allocation? I’m not overly concerned that I have to be in the FAW allocated block…..my CCS seat is grandstand not Canton End so I’m used to be adjacent not in the thick of it ! ….looking at the ground make up if you can declare team you support it looks like you will be there or there abouts !
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Post by ch7 on Jun 29, 2022 13:58:19 GMT
You're gonna have to trust the FAW that they know what demand will be. Rough guess - 50% of stage 1 members will want tickets in stage 1? Of that say 90% will want the cheapest seats? Roughly leaves 500-800 cat 3 seats left for stage 2
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Post by bluetone on Jun 29, 2022 14:10:47 GMT
Need some advice please Gone all in and booked hotel in Abu Dhabi, UK fights out and back and 3 x match day flights to Doha and back
My concern is tickets as I’m down on the FAW pecking order. I’m m going to try on the 5th on the FIFA free for all portal but not sure how successful I’ll be.
What’s the deal regarding if someone else higher up the pecking order can get me a ticket and transferring it to me.
Is this possible?
I’ve researched and like with everything else regarding this World Cup it’s a maze and I can’t get a definitive answer anywhere.
Anyone ITK on this subject or have a link please
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Post by daearegwr on Jun 29, 2022 15:28:49 GMT
Need some advice please Gone all in and booked hotel in Abu Dhabi, UK fights out and back and 3 x match day flights to Doha and back My concern is tickets as I’m down on the FAW pecking order. I’m m going to try on the 5th on the FIFA free for all portal but not sure how successful I’ll be. What’s the deal regarding if someone else higher up the pecking order can get me a ticket and transferring it to me. Is this possible? I’ve researched and like with everything else regarding this World Cup it’s a maze and I can’t get a definitive answer anywhere. Anyone ITK on this subject or have a link please All I've found is this on FIFA website www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022/news/ticket-resale-fwc22
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Post by cymru58 on Jun 29, 2022 17:25:01 GMT
My understanding and stand to be corrected, you can purchase more than one ticket (up to 6?) via the FIFA free for all process and you have to name the guest(s) with passport information i.e. 2nd etc tickets, at the time of purchase. You are able to re-assign the guest(s) ticket(s) afterwards if need be but not the purchaser's ticket.
However, if you purchase via FAW pecking order process you can only purchase one ticket during specified stages per provided FAW number that is specifically allocated to the FAW member and this ticket can not be reassigned to another person.
It seems, if my understanding is correct, if a person is in FAW stage 2 or below it is best to initially try to obtain a ticket from the FIFA process (as you will know immediately if successful) and if not successful then try via FAW process. Comments on my understanding and thought of best way forward would be appreciated as not in stage 1.
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Post by bluetone on Jun 29, 2022 19:57:14 GMT
Thank you daearegwr & cymru58 👍🏻
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Post by iot on Jun 29, 2022 20:39:28 GMT
My understanding and stand to be corrected, you can purchase more than one ticket (up to 6?) via the FIFA free for all process and you have to name the guest(s) with passport information i.e. 2nd etc tickets, at the time of purchase. You are able to re-assign the guest(s) ticket(s) afterwards if need be but not the purchaser's ticket. However, if you purchase via FAW pecking order process you can only purchase one ticket during specified stages per provided FAW number that is specifically allocated to the FAW member and this ticket can not be reassigned to another person. It seems, if my understanding is correct, if a person is in FAW stage 2 or below it is best to initially try to obtain a ticket from the FIFA process (as you will know immediately if successful) and if not successful then try via FAW process. Comments on my understanding and thought of best way forward would be appreciated as not in stage 1. Can I ask what that understanding is based on? I haven't seen anything to say that a lead purchaser cannot re-assign their ticket or that a ticket purchased through the FAW process cannot be reassigned. Is that something you've read or just assumed?
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Post by maelor on Jun 29, 2022 20:39:44 GMT
My understanding and stand to be corrected, you can purchase more than one ticket (up to 6?) via the FIFA free for all process and you have to name the guest(s) with passport information i.e. 2nd etc tickets, at the time of purchase. You are able to re-assign the guest(s) ticket(s) afterwards if need be but not the purchaser's ticket. However, if you purchase via FAW pecking order process you can only purchase one ticket during specified stages per provided FAW number that is specifically allocated to the FAW member and this ticket can not be reassigned to another person. It seems, if my understanding is correct, if a person is in FAW stage 2 or below it is best to initially try to obtain a ticket from the FIFA process (as you will know immediately if successful) and if not successful then try via FAW process. Comments on my understanding and thought of best way forward would be appreciated as not in stage 1. This is exactly my understanding of the situation too.
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Post by ch7 on Jun 29, 2022 21:21:05 GMT
My understanding and stand to be corrected, you can purchase more than one ticket (up to 6?) via the FIFA free for all process and you have to name the guest(s) with passport information i.e. 2nd etc tickets, at the time of purchase. You are able to re-assign the guest(s) ticket(s) afterwards if need be but not the purchaser's ticket. However, if you purchase via FAW pecking order process you can only purchase one ticket during specified stages per provided FAW number that is specifically allocated to the FAW member and this ticket can not be reassigned to another person. It seems, if my understanding is correct, if a person is in FAW stage 2 or below it is best to initially try to obtain a ticket from the FIFA process (as you will know immediately if successful) and if not successful then try via FAW process. Comments on my understanding and thought of best way forward would be appreciated as not in stage 1. This. FAW tickets have to be yours and yours only
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Post by idj68 on Jun 29, 2022 21:25:36 GMT
Going to be chaotic Tuesday and a mad Thursday next week 🏴
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Post by iot on Jun 29, 2022 21:32:15 GMT
I can only see this on the FIFA website: 'A ticket applicant is only permitted to assign tickets to guests either free of charge or for an amount no greater than the face value of the ticket. In accordance with the Ticket Terms of Use, guests are not permitted to transfer tickets under any circumstances. If a guest can no longer use a ticket, it must be returned to the ticket applicant. Only the main ticket applicant is permitted to reassign a ticket to another guest. Further information on ticket transfer to a guest will be provided in due course at FIFA.com/tickets.' fifa.powerappsportals.com/en-US/qatar2022/faq/category/?id=CAT-01006Can't see anything concrete on ticket applicants being prevented from reassigning their tickets, although you could possibly infer that from the reference to 'guests' specifically. But it's certainly not clear
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Post by bolter on Jun 29, 2022 21:48:08 GMT
See point 5 in the link you posted
5. Can I allow one of my guests to become the main ticket applicant of my application?
No, as the main ticket applicant, you are not entitled to transfer any tickets allocated to yourself. If you cannot attend a match, you may put all your tickets up for resale on the official FIFA Resale Platform, subject to the applicable conditions. The FIFA Resale Platform and the Resale Policy will be made available at FIFA.com/tickets in due course.
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Post by Martyn Moses on Jun 30, 2022 7:05:16 GMT
So if I am reading this correctly the guest tickets are only for the free for all sales and NOT for the FAW codes , what I am trying to say is when I buy tickets using my code can I then buy a 2nd ticket for another person who also has a code ? All will become clearer ( or not ) on Tuesday I'd imagine .
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Post by ch7 on Jun 30, 2022 7:27:24 GMT
So if I am reading this correctly the guest tickets are only for the free for all sales and NOT for the FAW codes , what I am trying to say is when I buy tickets using my code can I then buy a 2nd ticket for another person who also has a code ? All will become clearer ( or not ) on Tuesday I'd imagine . Only people with codes can buy tickets Tuesday thru FAW portal. As far as I'm aware you can only buy your own tickets. You add other people's unique codes and the computer means that you sit together
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Post by theserb on Jun 30, 2022 15:14:38 GMT
Me and my son are in the first group but we are not going. A couple of reasons for that but similar to already discussed. Would it be wrong to offer the codes up to someone else?
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Post by bluetone on Jun 30, 2022 16:36:41 GMT
Me and my son are in the first group but we are not going. A couple of reasons for that but similar to already discussed. Would it be wrong to offer the codes up to someone else? Not being in the first group I’d say no🤣 Joking aside Ive fully committed to Qatar with all flights now booked and paid for which is risk not having guaranteed tickets. If you were happy to buy them on behalf of others I’d like to ‘throw my hat in the ring’ for your tickets.
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Post by idj68 on Jun 30, 2022 18:12:24 GMT
Me and my son are in the first group but we are not going. A couple of reasons for that but similar to already discussed. Would it be wrong to offer the codes up to someone else? As someone in priority 2 please don’t 🙏🏴
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Post by bolter on Jun 30, 2022 18:35:35 GMT
Me and my son are in the first group but we are not going. A couple of reasons for that but similar to already discussed. Would it be wrong to offer the codes up to someone else? I'm sure I read that codes will be unique to each person so anyone else using them may encounter problems further down the line, ie linking the ticket to a Hayya Card in a different name
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Post by rhys on Jun 30, 2022 18:42:00 GMT
Me and my son are in the first group but we are not going. A couple of reasons for that but similar to already discussed. Would it be wrong to offer the codes up to someone else? Yes it would. You literally just needed to attend home games to be in group 2. I’m still a bit shocked we have so few regulars. I think the groups are entirely fair and those most loyal should be rewarded.
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