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Post by talyfan on Sept 22, 2022 22:08:55 GMT
I can't see how we're supposed to win this match, we now have pretty much half of our starting 11 out, and no midfield. We were more than competitive in the away match and our starting eleven was Ward Smith Gunter Mepham RND Burns Levitt Morell Williams Moore James I reckon we've every chance on Sunday. Don't think the starting XI for Sunday would be far off that now that I think of it Hennessey or Ward Roberts Cabango Rodon RND Neco Levitt Morrell Williams Moore James
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Post by ddirpytnop on Sept 22, 2022 22:11:27 GMT
What has Cabango done to inspire such fear and trepidation? I think I'm right in saying the only full game he's played for us was the Czech friendly, and he did OK iirc. I thought he was poor in that game. He looked ponderous in and out of possession. In fact, I came away from the game thinking that he would never be good enough for international football. He may prove me wrong - I hope he does so.
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Post by iot on Sept 22, 2022 22:30:56 GMT
Wayne Roberts Cabango Rodon Neco Levitt James Bale James Moore Johnson It won’t be this. But I would love to see it To be fair, I do think we looked alright when we switched to the back 4 tonight. It might surprise Poland too, so I wouldn't mind us starting with it. But if we do go down that route, we probably need to use it to bring in another midfielder, rather than another forward. You don't see many teams playing 4 out and out forwards and manage to put in a cohesive display, there's a reason for that
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Post by iot on Sept 22, 2022 22:33:36 GMT
What has Cabango done to inspire such fear and trepidation? I think I'm right in saying the only full game he's played for us was the Czech friendly, and he did OK iirc. He started the Czech and Mexico friendlies and was poor to terrible in both games, like Bambi on ice. But I think he's progressed a bit since then and he's the best option we've got. I would start him.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 22, 2022 22:33:57 GMT
Wayne Connor-Gunter-Rodon-RND-Neco Morrell Jonny-Brennan Bale-James
Better to have a forward thinking midfield 3 given no Ampadu or Allen, and given we need to win the game
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Post by iot on Sept 22, 2022 22:39:53 GMT
Wayne Connor-Gunter-Rodon-RND-Neco Morrell Jonny-Brennan Bale-James Better to have a forward thinking midfield 3 given no Ampadu or Allen, and given we need to win the game Realistically, Brennan's not going to perform that '8' role. He either doesn't have the interest or nous to play that role. Even in that wide forward role tonight, there were a few occasions where they were breaking down his wing and doubling up on Connor, and he was just jogging back in. I just don't think he has the instinct to pick up on that sort of danger and help to cut it out. If Brennan's playing, it will be as a forward, even if he is penciled in as an 8. So what you're advocating for there is again a 523, but with Jonny as one of the 2 in midfield. Again, I think that's just asking for trouble
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Post by cadno on Sept 22, 2022 23:03:09 GMT
Hennessey Connor Cabango Rodon RND Brennan Neco Morrell James Bale Moore
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 22, 2022 23:17:07 GMT
Wayne Connor-Gunter-Rodon-RND-Neco Morrell Jonny-Brennan Bale-James Better to have a forward thinking midfield 3 given no Ampadu or Allen, and given we need to win the game Realistically, Brennan's not going to perform that '8' role. He either doesn't have the interest or nous to play that role. Even in that wide forward role tonight, there were a few occasions where they were breaking down his wing and doubling up on Connor, and he was just jogging back in. I just don't think he has the instinct to pick up on that sort of danger and help to cut it out. If Brennan's playing, it will be as a forward, even if he is penciled in as an 8. So what you're advocating for there is again a 523, but with Jonny as one of the 2 in midfield. Again, I think that's just asking for trouble I think he's capable of filling the Wilson role, where it's just his job to get back in and be another number in the midfield. Whether it would work would be a gamble, but I'd be more confident of us pulling off a win with a creative midfield like that, than playing Morrell-Smith If Morrell-Levitt-Jonny worked in the away game, I feel Morrell-Jonny-Brennan can work
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Post by jackanapes on Sept 23, 2022 6:25:39 GMT
What has Cabango done to inspire such fear and trepidation? I think I'm right in saying the only full game he's played for us was the Czech friendly, and he did OK iirc. He started the Czech and Mexico friendlies and was poor to terrible in both games, like Bambi on ice. But I think he's progressed a bit since then and he's the best option we've got. I would start him. Cabango is a decent defender. He certainly has weaknesses in his game but he has improved a lot. He’s a big lad so sometimes when he makes a mistake he can appear clumsy, but some of this is due to his club manger’s insistence on retaining possession at all costs. He needs to trust his instincts and clear his lines when needed, rather than look for the pass every time. He’ll be fine for us if called upon on Sunday. Fans love a scapegoat though, and with Mepham out someone else will have to be selected by the permanently enraged.
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Post by iot on Sept 23, 2022 6:50:01 GMT
Realistically, Brennan's not going to perform that '8' role. He either doesn't have the interest or nous to play that role. Even in that wide forward role tonight, there were a few occasions where they were breaking down his wing and doubling up on Connor, and he was just jogging back in. I just don't think he has the instinct to pick up on that sort of danger and help to cut it out. If Brennan's playing, it will be as a forward, even if he is penciled in as an 8. So what you're advocating for there is again a 523, but with Jonny as one of the 2 in midfield. Again, I think that's just asking for trouble I think he's capable of filling the Wilson role, where it's just his job to get back in and be another number in the midfield. Whether it would work would be a gamble, but I'd be more confident of us pulling off a win with a creative midfield like that, than playing Morrell-Smith If Morrell-Levitt-Jonny worked in the away game, I feel Morrell-Jonny-Brennan can work Jonny and Wilson are much busier players than Johnson. They get a lot more stuck in. You're right about the Morrell-Levitt-Jonny combination in the away game, we should go with that again
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 23, 2022 9:05:53 GMT
I think he's capable of filling the Wilson role, where it's just his job to get back in and be another number in the midfield. Whether it would work would be a gamble, but I'd be more confident of us pulling off a win with a creative midfield like that, than playing Morrell-Smith If Morrell-Levitt-Jonny worked in the away game, I feel Morrell-Jonny-Brennan can work Jonny and Wilson are much busier players than Johnson. They get a lot more stuck in. You're right about the Morrell-Levitt-Jonny combination in the away game, we should go with that again If Levitt hits it will work, if he misses that could be League B for us. Difficult call to make
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Post by rangers15 on Sept 23, 2022 11:02:31 GMT
Jonny and Wilson are much busier players than Johnson. They get a lot more stuck in. You're right about the Morrell-Levitt-Jonny combination in the away game, we should go with that again If Levitt hits it will work, if he misses that could be League B for us. Difficult call to make agree - with the list of players unavailable whatever combo Page goes with is a gamble. I don't have a clue what to go with!
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Post by rangers15 on Sept 23, 2022 11:08:34 GMT
do Poland have suspensions/injuries going into Sundays game?
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Post by smudger1 on Sept 23, 2022 13:25:53 GMT
I'd like to see this side on Sunday
Hennessy Roberts Amps Rodon Cabango ND Morrell Neco Moore Johnson James
I'm confident we will have 31000 plus and we have every chance of winning this game. Smith is out of his depth and I'd like to see Neco run the show in the middle with Bale on second half.
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Post by kingstonred on Sept 23, 2022 14:27:52 GMT
This is similar to England fans saying Trent should play centre midfield.
Centre midfield is the hardest position on the pitch, with 360 vision required. It would be foolish to play Neco in Centre Midfield for such a big game, when he has never played there in the past
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 23, 2022 15:06:14 GMT
I'd like to see this side on Sunday Hennessy Roberts Amps Rodon Cabango ND Morrell Neco Moore Johnson James I'm confident we will have 31000 plus and we have every chance of winning this game. Smith is out of his depth and I'd like to see Neco run the show in the middle with Bale on second half. Amps suspended
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Post by dai on Sept 23, 2022 15:15:16 GMT
This is similar to England fans saying Trent should play centre midfield. Centre midfield is the hardest position on the pitch, with 360 vision required. It would be foolish to play Neco in Centre Midfield for such a big game, when he has never played there in the past He played in a middle 3 in a friendly against France - did quite well from what I remember. Sometimes teams have to play players out of position, especially when the backups are poor.
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Post by rangers15 on Sept 23, 2022 15:26:09 GMT
This is similar to England fans saying Trent should play centre midfield. Centre midfield is the hardest position on the pitch, with 360 vision required. It would be foolish to play Neco in Centre Midfield for such a big game, when he has never played there in the past He played in a middle 3 in a friendly against France - did quite well from what I remember. Sometimes teams have to play players out of position, especially when the backups are poor. sent off after about 20 mins for handball on the goal line. but he did seem to be playing ok before he got his marching orders... shame as it would have been really interesting to see how he went for an extended period of time.
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Post by welwyn on Sept 23, 2022 16:20:02 GMT
Think he'll go: Hennessy Roberts Cabango Rodon ND Neco Morrell Smith Joniesta James Bale
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 23, 2022 17:09:45 GMT
This is similar to England fans saying Trent should play centre midfield. Centre midfield is the hardest position on the pitch, with 360 vision required. It would be foolish to play Neco in Centre Midfield for such a big game, when he has never played there in the past I don't have an issue with anyone filling in at CM for us. We don't really get the ball in and turned. Usually they just lay it off to the CB's. As long as they can shield our defence I'd be happy.
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 23, 2022 17:16:21 GMT
Hennessey Gunter Rodon RND Roberts Morrell Neco Johnson Bale James Moore
Morrell might be overun in the middle. Any way of putting it it doesn't look good. If Neco can play CM maybe drop Roberts back to a traditional Fullback with RND the other side. It's the match for someone to stake a claim for the World Cup though so let's hope someone takes the opportunity.
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Post by welshrover on Sept 23, 2022 20:52:09 GMT
If we do win on Sunday we will be the only "home nation" in League A after England relegated tonight.
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 23, 2022 20:59:10 GMT
If we do win on Sunday we will be the only "home nation" in League A after England relegated tonight. Or if we lose on Sunday Scotland could be the only home nation in League A next campaign. Would be sweet to stay up especially with England going down.
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Post by morg on Sept 23, 2022 21:04:22 GMT
Doesn't England's relegation also mean that they'll now be in 2nd seeds for Euro 24 qualifiers?
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Post by welshrover on Sept 23, 2022 21:06:25 GMT
If we do win on Sunday we will be the only "home nation" in League A after England relegated tonight. Or if we lose on Sunday Scotland could be the only home nation in League A next campaign. Would be sweet to stay up especially with England going down. Ah sorry, didn't realise Scotland were doing so well.
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Post by pclaude on Sept 23, 2022 21:08:55 GMT
Doesn't England's relegation also mean that they'll now be in 2nd seeds for Euro 24 qualifiers? Yes.
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Post by underwood on Sept 23, 2022 21:14:47 GMT
Doesn't England's relegation also mean that they'll now be in 2nd seeds for Euro 24 qualifiers? Yes. Good. They can draw the Belgians instead then.
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Post by dai on Sept 23, 2022 21:24:04 GMT
If we go down too, who's betting we'll draw England in our group?
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Post by morg on Sept 23, 2022 21:33:51 GMT
If we go down too, who's betting we'll draw England in our group? Can't happen I don't think. We'll both be in 2nd seeds whatever we do against Poland. Top 10 ranked teams in nations league will be 1st seeds. Highest we can finish is 11th.
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 23, 2022 21:53:38 GMT
If we go down too, who's betting we'll draw England in our group? At least we’ll avoid Belgium haha
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