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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 23, 2022 22:24:23 GMT
If we go down too, who's betting we'll draw England in our group? Can't happen I don't think. We'll both be in 2nd seeds whatever we do against Poland. Top 10 ranked teams in nations league will be 1st seeds. Highest we can finish is 11th. He means for the next Nations League |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 24, 2022 6:47:46 GMT
Am I right in saying any win besides a 1-0 would keep us up?
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Post by morg on Sept 24, 2022 6:54:04 GMT
Can't happen I don't think. We'll both be in 2nd seeds whatever we do against Poland. Top 10 ranked teams in nations league will be 1st seeds. Highest we can finish is 11th. He means for the next Nations League Ah. Fair enough. |
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Post by morg on Sept 24, 2022 6:57:45 GMT
Am I right in saying any win besides a 1-0 would keep us up? I think a 1-0 would be ok too?? Head to head would be equal and then we'd have better goal difference. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 24, 2022 8:38:18 GMT
Am I right in saying any win besides a 1-0 would keep us up? Any win is fine. 1-0 means 2-2 agg and goes to overall group goal difference, of which ours is better. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 24, 2022 8:39:25 GMT
Can't happen I don't think. We'll both be in 2nd seeds whatever we do against Poland. Top 10 ranked teams in nations league will be 1st seeds. Highest we can finish is 11th. He means for the next Nations League We can’t draw them in the next UNL under the same format!!! |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 24, 2022 8:42:12 GMT
If we go down too, who's betting we'll draw England in our group? If it’s the same format we wouldn’t be able to. League B seeds 1 would be teams ranked 13-16, of which both England and us would be. Just like we were 17th in this one and couldn’t draw Austria, Czech Rep and Hungary, ranked 18-20th respectively. allezlesrouges |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 24, 2022 8:43:36 GMT
He means for the next Nations League Ah. Fair enough. See my post above this comment |
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Post by morg on Sept 24, 2022 8:49:18 GMT
See my post above this comment I withdraw my previous "fair enough" and offer a further "fair enough" So in effect we'll be one of 4 top seeds in the B groups. That would make relegation a bit more palatable. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 24, 2022 8:49:53 GMT
See my post above this comment I withdraw my previous "fair enough" and offer a further "fair enough" So in effect we'll be one of 4 top seeds in the B groups. That would make relegation a bit more palatable. Correct! |
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Post by hooky on Sept 24, 2022 9:03:58 GMT
Am I right in saying any win besides a 1-0 would keep us up? Why would 1-0 not be enough? What rubbish - despite our handicap of ceding the first two matches we have a much better goal difference. If its head to head nonsense then why would we get punished if we ended up winning but conceding less away goals? |
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Post by hooky on Sept 24, 2022 9:05:39 GMT
Am I right in saying any win besides a 1-0 would keep us up? Why would 1-0 not be enough? What rubbish - despite our handicap of ceding the first two matches we have a much better goal difference. If its head to head nonsense then why would we get punished if we ended up winning but conceding less away goals? Just saw the other comments - I did hear them say the same on Radio Wales though but do not understand why that would logically be the case! |
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Post by hooky on Sept 24, 2022 9:11:25 GMT
Poland in my opinion are pretty mediocre and not as good as their ranking suggests. In tournaments they have looked terrible over the last 30 years and I'd rather play them than their top Eastern European or Balkan rivals as they are far less dynamic and play far more rigid, boring football despite their massive population base.
They have one key weapon - their striker. Unfortunately - somehow - we end up going into another game depleted missing several key players and a couple of suspensions in key areas. I hope we beat Poland as I believe we are better than them. They have been very lucky to be in a position where a draw against a depleted Wales we'll see them stay up in League A - we may not really belong there on a permanent basis but they certainly don't either.
As an aside - its strange we struggle to get good results against top teams but Hungary are now consistently beating or competing against them. Is this down to their management, more consistent strength across their team or some star players suddenly emerging?
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Post by underwood on Sept 24, 2022 9:18:41 GMT
Hungary are a mirror of us about 7 years ago, after years of mediocrity they’ve found a group of players & system that is paying off for them.
They’ve been tremendous in the Nations League, but the timing of this particular version of it has fallen perfectly for them, whereas for us it is the complete opposite for well documented reasons.
If there was such a thing as a Nations League back in 2015-16 we would also have done well in League A.
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Post by hooky on Sept 24, 2022 9:20:11 GMT
Would rather play Cabango than Gunter
Cabango will be a risk BUT HE IS A CENTRAL DEFENDER and Gunter is not. He is also playing at a much higher level than Gunter now and has been for the past two years.
Don't given me that rubbish that Gunter adds experience - his experience did not help us when he gifted Belarus the opportunity of a result against us and was all at sea for the Dutch equaliser against us late into injury time. His time has passed and we need to develop Cabango for the future to bolster our options. Cabango is far better at defending crosses (6ft 2in vs 5ft 11in) which is important given how good Lewandoski is in the air, far more powerful, far faster and more likely to nick a goal from a cross in the opposition area.
The only thing arguing in favour of Gunter is positioning and decision making but again he is NOT naturally a centre back and his decision making / positioning is not at a consistently high enough level to pose a strong argument given the errors noted above.
Time to move on Page - why Gunter is going to Qatar still seems wrong to me as there is zero merit in the decision (but lets not have that argument again - Cabango in my view is the better option at centre defence - that is my main argument)
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 24, 2022 9:20:25 GMT
Hungary are a mirror of us about 7 years ago, after years of mediocrity they’ve found a group of players & system that is paying off for them. They’ve been tremendous in the Nations League, but the timing of this particular version of it has fallen perfectly for them, whereas for us it is the complete opposite for well documented reasons. If there was such a thing as a Nations League back in 2015-16 we would also have done well in League A. Do not want them in euro qualifying! Makes our win v them in Nov 19 look excellent now. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 24, 2022 9:22:53 GMT
Cabango should start so we can test him at this level before the World Cup, starting Gunter would be ridiculous
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Post by cadno on Sept 24, 2022 9:47:25 GMT
Would rather play Cabango than Gunter Cabango will be a risk BUT HE IS A CENTRAL DEFENDER and Gunter is not. He is also playing at a much higher level than Gunter now and has been for the past two years. Don't given me that rubbish that Gunter adds experience - his experience did not help us when he gifted Belarus the opportunity of a result against us and was all at sea for the Dutch equaliser against us late into injury time. His time has passed and we need to develop Cabango for the future to bolster our options. Cabango is far better at defending crosses (6ft 2in vs 5ft 11in) which is important given how good Lewandoski is in the air, far more powerful, far faster and more likely to nick a goal from a cross in the opposition area. The only thing arguing in favour of Gunter is positioning and decision making but again he is NOT naturally a centre back and his decision making / positioning is not at a consistently high enough level to pose a strong argument given the errors noted above. Time to move on Page - why Gunter is going to Qatar still seems wrong to me as there is zero merit in the decision (but lets not have that argument again - Cabango in my view is the better option at centre defence - that is my main argument) Defensively he's pretty solid, did fine out in Poland. Belarus was a poor mistake (one of a handful in 100 odd caps?) But you're on drugs if you blame Gunter for the Dutch equaliser! That was a collective fuck up more than anything! I haven't watched the Swans this season so I have no idea how Cabango's been playing? It's a good opportunity for him if he does get the nod! Hennessey Connor Cabango Rodon RND Morrell Neco Bale Johnson James Moore A bit of a risk with Neco in midfield but I reckon he can do it, with Moore up top we always have that long ball outlet. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 24, 2022 10:01:26 GMT
If we go down too, who's betting we'll draw England in our group? If it’s the same format we wouldn’t be able to. League B seeds 1 would be teams ranked 13-16, of which both England and us would be. Just like we were 17th in this one and couldn’t draw Austria, Czech Rep and Hungary, ranked 18-20th respectively. allezlesrouges Ahh had no idea that there were seedings in each league, thought it was a random draw - thanks for clarifying! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 24, 2022 10:08:34 GMT
Would rather play Cabango than Gunter Cabango will be a risk BUT HE IS A CENTRAL DEFENDER and Gunter is not. He is also playing at a much higher level than Gunter now and has been for the past two years. Don't given me that rubbish that Gunter adds experience - his experience did not help us when he gifted Belarus the opportunity of a result against us and was all at sea for the Dutch equaliser against us late into injury time. His time has passed and we need to develop Cabango for the future to bolster our options. Cabango is far better at defending crosses (6ft 2in vs 5ft 11in) which is important given how good Lewandoski is in the air, far more powerful, far faster and more likely to nick a goal from a cross in the opposition area. The only thing arguing in favour of Gunter is positioning and decision making but again he is NOT naturally a centre back and his decision making / positioning is not at a consistently high enough level to pose a strong argument given the errors noted above. Time to move on Page - why Gunter is going to Qatar still seems wrong to me as there is zero merit in the decision (but lets not have that argument again - Cabango in my view is the better option at centre defence - that is my main argument) Defensively he's pretty solid, did fine out in Poland. Belarus was a poor mistake (one of a handful in 100 odd caps?) But you're on drugs if you blame Gunter for the Dutch equaliser! That was a collective fuck up more than anything! I haven't watched the Swans this season so I have no idea how Cabango's been playing? It's a good opportunity for him if he does get the nod! Hennessey Connor Cabango Rodon RND Morrell Neco Bale Johnson James Moore A bit of a risk with Neco in midfield but I reckon he can do it, with Moore up top we always have that long ball outlet. I'm fine with Cabango starting and see the merits of doing that over Gunter. But it's clear some people just have an agenda against Gunter which annoys me a bit because for the most part he's done well for us recently, including during Euro 2020 I don't think Neco can play CM, the role of a modern WB is very different to that of a CM - particularly positionally. I think it's very unlikely personally. Ultimately I think it will end up being Smith after all our conversations about it |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 24, 2022 10:12:49 GMT
Neco at CM?
So then we are without the first choice LB.
What a fantastic idea!
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Post by hooky on Sept 24, 2022 10:29:15 GMT
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Post by evans1282 on Sept 24, 2022 10:44:14 GMT
Would rather play Cabango than Gunter Cabango will be a risk BUT HE IS A CENTRAL DEFENDER and Gunter is not. He is also playing at a much higher level than Gunter now and has been for the past two years. Don't given me that rubbish that Gunter adds experience - his experience did not help us when he gifted Belarus the opportunity of a result against us and was all at sea for the Dutch equaliser against us late into injury time. His time has passed and we need to develop Cabango for the future to bolster our options. Cabango is far better at defending crosses (6ft 2in vs 5ft 11in) which is important given how good Lewandoski is in the air, far more powerful, far faster and more likely to nick a goal from a cross in the opposition area. The only thing arguing in favour of Gunter is positioning and decision making but again he is NOT naturally a centre back and his decision making / positioning is not at a consistently high enough level to pose a strong argument given the errors noted above. Time to move on Page - why Gunter is going to Qatar still seems wrong to me as there is zero merit in the decision (but lets not have that argument again - Cabango in my view is the better option at centre defence - that is my main argument) Cabango scares the shit out of me when he's in the middle,and when drawn wide he's a liability,our best rcb and lcb in a three have always been guys experienced and comfortable at fullback,Gunter,Chester,Davies,RND,Mepham is the exeption but is far more comfortable than Cabango on the ball and 1 on 1. |
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Post by cadno on Sept 24, 2022 10:49:21 GMT
Defensively he's pretty solid, did fine out in Poland. Belarus was a poor mistake (one of a handful in 100 odd caps?) But you're on drugs if you blame Gunter for the Dutch equaliser! That was a collective fuck up more than anything! I haven't watched the Swans this season so I have no idea how Cabango's been playing? It's a good opportunity for him if he does get the nod! Hennessey Connor Cabango Rodon RND Morrell Neco Bale Johnson James Moore A bit of a risk with Neco in midfield but I reckon he can do it, with Moore up top we always have that long ball outlet. I'm fine with Cabango starting and see the merits of doing that over Gunter. But it's clear some people just have an agenda against Gunter which annoys me a bit because for the most part he's done well for us recently, including during Euro 2020 I don't think Neco can play CM, the role of a modern WB is very different to that of a CM - particularly positionally. I think it's very unlikely personally. Ultimately I think it will end up being Smith after all our conversations about it He's got good feet, can carry the ball, his long balls are very good.... thought he looked good there vs France before being harshly sent off. Positioning and discipline are a questionmark but there's only one way of finding out if he can do it really... maybe that should happen in a friendly though. Agree Smith is the safer option though, might make more sense! jbt95 I think RND is solid enough left back, not 100% convinced with Neco defensively as a LB in a back 4 either. But he is brilliant as a wing back in a back 5 and clearly our first choice now |
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Post by wft on Sept 24, 2022 10:58:28 GMT
Relegation looms
Come on Wales.
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Post by sleepy on Sept 24, 2022 13:23:08 GMT
3 more sections in the top deck now on sale. I reckon you are right, should be pushing 30k, I would guess 28k. All of the top deck now on sale. I agree it will now be close to 30k, if not higher. I wouldn't wait until just before kick off to buy, you never know it could be only the £50 grandstand tickets remaining. |
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Post by stevej on Sept 24, 2022 16:21:39 GMT
Hi all, I've had a season ticket for this campaign and 2 of us are goin tomorrow night as normal?
I've just purchased 2 tickets for friends in another part of the ground, not being technologically advanced can I just email them the tickets and they gain access through their own phones/app or do I need to be with them for them to gain access to the ground? Thanks...
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 24, 2022 18:02:45 GMT
Hi all, I've had a season ticket for this campaign and 2 of us are goin tomorrow night as normal? I've just purchased 2 tickets for friends in another part of the ground, not being technologically advanced can I just email them the tickets and they gain access through their own phones/app or do I need to be with them for them to gain access to the ground? Thanks... Yes you can email them and you don't need to be there. Just make sure they download the correct ticket. If you've both accidentally downloaded the same ticket and one of you goes in, the other one won't be able to. Just tell them to download a specific number and you should all be fine! |
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Post by stevej on Sept 24, 2022 18:10:12 GMT
Thank you 👍
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Post by cadno on Sept 24, 2022 19:33:42 GMT
Sorry random question, but what's this new trend 'MD1' etc on football clubs accounts, match day 1 or something? When teams are training?
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