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Post by jbt95 on Sept 8, 2022 12:55:35 GMT
In my living memory, some of these are probably a bit controversial. 4-0 defeat to Denmark in the 2020 Euro's. I know a lot will always defend this result, but for me this was an embarrassing scoreline. Denmark are a very good side, but to lose 4-0 to them on the World / Euro stage was just dreadful. And then England went on to beat them fairly comfortably. Just reinforced how bad of a result it was. Disagree England beat them comfortably. They scored a dodgy pen, and there were two balls on the pitch. Denmark were the better side that night. |
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Post by dai on Sept 8, 2022 13:53:04 GMT
In my living memory, some of these are probably a bit controversial. 4-0 defeat to Denmark in the 2020 Euro's. I know a lot will always defend this result, but for me this was an embarrassing scoreline. Denmark are a very good side, but to lose 4-0 to them on the World / Euro stage was just dreadful. And then England went on to beat them fairly comfortably. Just reinforced how bad of a result it was. Disagree England beat them comfortably. They scored a dodgy pen, and there were two balls on the pitch. Denmark were the better side that night. Well, the scoreline was close, but England dominated possession - I would say at least close to 60% and had a LOT more chances if I remember correctly. |
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Post by jimbo82 on Sept 8, 2022 14:03:04 GMT
Disagree England beat them comfortably. They scored a dodgy pen, and there were two balls on the pitch. Denmark were the better side that night. Well, the scoreline was close, but England dominated possession - I would say at least close to 60% and had a LOT more chances if I remember correctly. Regardless what happened in the Denmark-England match, our game was incredibly disappointing. My overriding thought was that we didn't deserve anything out of the game but a 2-0 defeat was probably the right score. 3-0 would have seemed harsh and losing 4-0 really hurt! We just looked desperate towards the end, and although they are a good side, they aren't an Italy/Germany/Netherlands. |
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Post by insertname on Sept 8, 2022 16:41:23 GMT
In my living memory, some of these are probably a bit controversial. 4-0 defeat to Denmark in the 2020 Euro's. I know a lot will always defend this result, but for me this was an embarrassing scoreline. Denmark are a very good side, but to lose 4-0 to them on the World / Euro stage was just dreadful. And then England went on to beat them fairly comfortably. Just reinforced how bad of a result it was. 5-1 defeat at home by Slovakia (even though we returned the favour away, which in itself was a bizarre result). 4-0 defeat away to Italy during the 2004 Euro's qualifying campaign. I know we'd lost to a very good team, but I expected better during this era - especially after beating them 2-1 at home. 0-3 loss to Serbia home. Like someone else mentioned above, Bale was on his way to become one of the best in the World and we had a decent squad, yet Serbia brushed us aside as if we were bottom seeds. 6-1 loss to Serbia away. Just terrible. Losing 2-1 away to Macedonia was pretty bad, and I remember Bellamy ranting about it after the game. That Italy game was 0-0 at half time. Giggs or Bellamy missed a decent chance when through on goal iirc. Admittedly they battered us for much of the game but those 4 goals came at the end when the floodgates opened and put a bit of gloss on it for Italy. And the Denmark one is definitely controversial! They took the lead against England and England needed a bullshit penalty to take the game away from them. A number of players failed to turn up in that game but given the circumstances I doubt many people concluded Wales were shit after getting humped by a team at home who were riding the emotional rollercoaster of their team mate’s brush with death. Fate conspired against us that time. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Sept 8, 2022 17:47:14 GMT
Losing the opening Euro 96 Qual match v Moldova 3-2 in 1994 stung having underestimated them and been outplayed and outfought by a hungrier and more determined opposition, but with a weakened side on the field (no Hughes, Rush, Saunders, Giggs) it was tough to take but was put down as one of those things. But if that match was a sneaky dig in the ribs, the next match: Cymru 0 - 5 Georgia ...was a full-on knockout blow! It will for me always be our worst result if only for what it symbolised. Taking place on 16/11/94, just one day shy of the 1st anniversary of that fateful game v Romania with (bar Giggs) a full strength side and we got absolutely pumped, it was 5-0 going on 10-0 with us chasing shadows all game. That match foreshadowed what was to come, the worst 7 years in Welsh football history and I remember feeling as though someone had chucked a bucket of ice-cold water over me watching that game. Combined with the Moldova result it really hammered home the reality of where we actually stood on the football map of the time, the game was moving on and leaving us behind unable to compete with an ageing squad and (bar a couple of youngsters) nothing really coming through. No plan, no future, no hope. I think that 5-0 was probably the worst result in our history. Other heavy defeats we've suffered have generally come at the hands of great sides. This time we were absolutely humiliated by a mediocre side with a few decent, in-form players. And as you say, we were hardly injury-ravaged going into the game. I remember going to the next game against Bulgaria at the Arms Park (where ofc we also got pumped), and even the Bulgarian fans in the stand above us were taunting us about it doing 5-0 gestures with their hands throughout the first half lol. Miserable times. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Sept 8, 2022 17:56:59 GMT
In my living memory, some of these are probably a bit controversial. 4-0 defeat to Denmark in the 2020 Euro's. I know a lot will always defend this result, but for me this was an embarrassing scoreline. Denmark are a very good side, but to lose 4-0 to them on the World / Euro stage was just dreadful. And then England went on to beat them fairly comfortably. Just reinforced how bad of a result it was. 5-1 defeat at home by Slovakia (even though we returned the favour away, which in itself was a bizarre result). 4-0 defeat away to Italy during the 2004 Euro's qualifying campaign. I know we'd lost to a very good team, but I expected better during this era - especially after beating them 2-1 at home. 0-3 loss to Serbia home. Like someone else mentioned above, Bale was on his way to become one of the best in the World and we had a decent squad, yet Serbia brushed us aside as if we were bottom seeds. 6-1 loss to Serbia away. Just terrible. Losing 2-1 away to Macedonia was pretty bad, and I remember Bellamy ranting about it after the game. We were bottom seeds lol en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)People forget how badly the Tosh era devastated us and how long it took for us to recover from it. |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 8, 2022 19:31:20 GMT
In my living memory, some of these are probably a bit controversial. 4-0 defeat to Denmark in the 2020 Euro's. I know a lot will always defend this result, but for me this was an embarrassing scoreline. Denmark are a very good side, but to lose 4-0 to them on the World / Euro stage was just dreadful. And then England went on to beat them fairly comfortably. Just reinforced how bad of a result it was. 5-1 defeat at home by Slovakia (even though we returned the favour away, which in itself was a bizarre result). 4-0 defeat away to Italy during the 2004 Euro's qualifying campaign. I know we'd lost to a very good team, but I expected better during this era - especially after beating them 2-1 at home. 0-3 loss to Serbia home. Like someone else mentioned above, Bale was on his way to become one of the best in the World and we had a decent squad, yet Serbia brushed us aside as if we were bottom seeds. 6-1 loss to Serbia away. Just terrible. Losing 2-1 away to Macedonia was pretty bad, and I remember Bellamy ranting about it after the game. Agree with most of this except for - England didn’t beat Denmark comfortably, they were taken to extra time needed a controversial penalty to win. Also,one of the reasons Serbia may have brushed us aside ‘like we were bottom seeds’ is because WE WERE bottom seeds at the time. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 8, 2022 19:54:15 GMT
With the National Team completely outdoing our expectations the last few years I was surprised to see its 9 years to the day since our U21's lost 1-0 to San Marino U21's. That has to be the worst in my opinion. Even though its not a Senior match it destroyed my belief that things can get better in a few years as the next crop of players can't hang with San Marino. Glad I was wrong on that. Anyone have any other contenders for the worst? Did we lose to San Marino only 9 years ago?! I initially thought you were referring to the under 21s in Jimmy Shoulders day, when Kevin Gall played for them. Didn’t they lose or draw 0-0 with San Marino under him? It wasn’t too long after Jimmy Shoulder’s they beat Sweden 4-0 and went on a hell of a run so these things can change pretty quickly. We went from losing to Serbia 6-1 to qualifying for the Euros quite quickly under Coleman too. Yeah 9 years ago. Facebook was kind enough to remind me. Danny Ward and Tom Lawrence played I think. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 8, 2022 19:55:55 GMT
Wales 0 Finland 2 in 2009. Gutted as didn't see it coming, but was a turgid performance and 100 year old Jari Litmanen bossed it. He was class that day. How I hope Bale will be at 38. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 8, 2022 20:00:56 GMT
Anyone remember when we found the final piece of the puzzle, Steve Morison, and Toshack said we'd take the handbrake off against Montenegro.... lost 1-0 and he was gone after.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Sept 8, 2022 20:15:06 GMT
Anyone remember when we found the final piece of the puzzle, Steve Morison, and Toshack said we'd take the handbrake off against Montenegro.... lost 1-0 and he was gone after. Was going to mention that one too. If we're talking about shocking and/or disappointing results we were treated to a rich & varied selection of those under Tosh. |
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Post by llan123 on Sept 8, 2022 21:45:31 GMT
Losing 5-1 to Slovakia at home in the Millennium Stadium. Think it may have been one of the last competitive games there? Felt like the end of an era that one. That was October 2006, we played there for another 3 years. The last regular game there was Russia in September 2009… only two games in 13 years since (England 2011 and Spain 2018). Ah fair enough, I actually didn't go to another Wales home game after that until 2010 id say. Everyone I used to go with stopped going after that 5-1, including a lot of the older lot from the village I was brought up in, many haven't been since, it was only when I was old enough to go with my mates I started going to home games again. The success of the team over the last decade as brought in new fans, the majority of those who go to every game probably didn't go many games before and I think the vast majority would stick with the team now even if results dropped off a cliff. |
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Post by bale-droed on Sept 9, 2022 4:10:05 GMT
Cyprus 3–1 Wales was pretty grim. Good shout. Forgot about this. I remember being optimistic for qualifying and then very quickly that died. They beat us 1-0 in a friendly a few years before and we were dreadful |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 10, 2022 8:21:47 GMT
One of the worst performances was in the 2-1 win away at San Marino.
Serbia tops it for me though. Never wanted to see Ashley Williams in a Wales shirt again after that... haha.
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Post by welshrover on Sept 10, 2022 8:51:32 GMT
One of the worst performances was in the 2-1 win away at San Marino. Serbia tops it for me though. Never wanted to see Ashley Williams in a Wales shirt again after that... haha. I can't recall if it was that game but remember one narrow victory out there when Bellars turned on the Wales fans and had a bit of a set to with us. Most of the games in that period just seem to be a blur of mediocrity for me now. |
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 10, 2022 11:10:05 GMT
2-1 home defeats to Romania and the Republic Of Ireland. There was genuine hope and excitement and we messed up on both occasions. The recent draw with Estonia and Gareth Bale rescue act against Belarus serve to remind us that we should never take anything for granted and just live in the moment. With that in mind the Denmark 4-0 defeat didn't feel as bad for me, we were in a major tournament and had gotten through a difficult group that contained the eventual winners and also the side that went on to beat the World Champions, it was just a bonus. Don't get me wrong, I was saddened, it genuinely upsets me when you can see some of the players visibly sad on the pitch which is probably why Harry Wilson's red card spoke to me, I just didn't expect us to get that far. Fast forward 14 months or whatever it is and I've never been more optimistic about what this team can do, the same feeling I had in 1993 and 2017.......
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Post by saturn9 on Sept 10, 2022 19:34:51 GMT
Some shockers under Gould. H&A to Turkey. A thumping by the Dutch at Cardiff, could have gone into double figures if not for Nev"s heroics.
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Post by insertname on Sept 10, 2022 20:32:22 GMT
Anyone remember when we found the final piece of the puzzle, Steve Morison, and Toshack said we'd take the handbrake off against Montenegro.... lost 1-0 and he was gone after. I remember having high hopes when Freddie Eastwood turned out for Wales. Looked back on as an almost Vinnie Jones-esque character but he scored an absolute belter on his debut to give us a win in Bulgaria. It shows how bad things were that in those days a win in Bulgaria was a huge deal. Another false dawn though, to go along with all the others! |
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Post by insertname on Sept 10, 2022 20:34:25 GMT
One of the worst performances was in the 2-1 win away at San Marino. Serbia tops it for me though. Never wanted to see Ashley Williams in a Wales shirt again after that... haha. I can't recall if it was that game but remember one narrow victory out there when Bellars turned on the Wales fans and had a bit of a set to with us. Most of the games in that period just seem to be a blur of mediocrity for me now. I feel really bad for him that he turned up for Wales during some really shit years and then he goes and retires just as things came together. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 10, 2022 23:26:12 GMT
That 1-1 draw against Georgia is the worst post Euro 2016 performance for me, without doubt. Very lucky to get a point in that game, Georgia had multiple opportunities to win it.
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 11, 2022 0:16:12 GMT
Anyone remember when we found the final piece of the puzzle, Steve Morison, and Toshack said we'd take the handbrake off against Montenegro.... lost 1-0 and he was gone after. I remember having high hopes when Freddie Eastwood turned out for Wales. Looked back on as an almost Vinnie Jones-esque character but he scored an absolute belter on his debut to give us a win in Bulgaria. It shows how bad things were that in those days a win in Bulgaria was a huge deal. Another false dawn though, to go along with all the others! To be fair , he looked a very good player at the time and was on absolute fire. The fire didn’t burn very bright or for very long though haha. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 11, 2022 10:13:00 GMT
That 1-1 draw against Georgia is the worst post Euro 2016 performance for me, without doubt. Very lucky to get a point in that game, Georgia had multiple opportunities to win it. First half wasn't too bad, but the 2nd half was the worst I've seen us play at home in a while (including the Ireland loss). Absolutely fell apart. Georgia have always been a banana skin to play, and I do wonder if they will ever get a bit of luck and actually qualify or at least move up the pots at some point - they clearly continuously have talented players But yeah we deserved to lose that game |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 11, 2022 15:54:49 GMT
That 1-1 draw against Georgia is the worst post Euro 2016 performance for me, without doubt. Very lucky to get a point in that game, Georgia had multiple opportunities to win it. First half wasn't too bad, but the 2nd half was the worst I've seen us play at home in a while (including the Ireland loss). Absolutely fell apart. Georgia have always been a banana skin to play, and I do wonder if they will ever get a bit of luck and actually qualify or at least move up the pots at some point - they clearly continuously have talented players But yeah we deserved to lose that game I suppose that's a fair assessment, the Georgians were by no means mugs but we were awful as you state. |
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Post by vvm on Sept 12, 2022 8:36:46 GMT
Considering we were in pot 1 for World cup 2018 qualifying, that whole qualifying campaign was a bit of a disaster. Coleman playing for draws early on and relying on screamers from 17 year olds to give us a chance.
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 12, 2022 8:59:25 GMT
Considering we were in pot 1 for World cup 2018 qualifying, that whole qualifying campaign was a bit of a disaster. Coleman playing for draws early on and relying on screamers from 17 year olds to give us a chance. Georgia at home we should’ve lost and then we were unlucky not to beat Serbia. The only game I can be critical of was the game in Dublin. We should’ve thrown the kitchen sink at them after 3 draws, even when we went down to 10. |
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Post by insertname on Sept 12, 2022 10:27:52 GMT
Considering we were in pot 1 for World cup 2018 qualifying, that whole qualifying campaign was a bit of a disaster. Coleman playing for draws early on and relying on screamers from 17 year olds to give us a chance. Georgia at home we should’ve lost and then we were unlucky not to beat Serbia. The only game I can be critical of was the game in Dublin. We should’ve thrown the kitchen sink at them after 3 draws, even when we went down to 10. The Georgia game is always picked up on but that was the key game because ROI weren’t even trying to win like the Georgians were. It was a complete under-estimation by Coleman of a) our position in the group and b) the benefit of having our best players all fit and available (a luxury we rarely have). If you draw at home to the bottom seed you have to get a result away from home to make up for it and that was always the easier game compared to Serbia away and yet even with 11 men we looked as happy with a point as ROI. It’s not even like it was the Tosh years where a draw in Ireland would be a reasonably good result in the circumstances. After the Euros we had had to not back ourselves with our best players against a team who settled for s draw from the first minute was simply criminal. |
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Post by iot on Sept 12, 2022 10:45:06 GMT
The Georgia game was more an epic failure in game-management than anything. We started well, scored an early goal, and must have expected to cruise through the rest of the game - at least that's how we played anyway. I remember instances where Bale would receive the ball on the counter, and instead of driving on (like he could do back then), he would slow the tempo down and pass backwards, gesturing others to slow down. They then equalize, and we go into panic-mode with an increasingly gung-ho mentality to a point where we were lucky to get a point. We should have just carried on pushing after the first goal, but tried to be too clever.
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Post by pclaude on Sept 12, 2022 10:55:04 GMT
It’s a long time ago now, but drawing 2-2 with a then part-time Iceland back in 1981 & failing to qualify for the World Cup as a result, was an absolute shocker. If anything could go wrong that night it did, including the Vetch Field’s floodlights failing. We would have been wearing Spirit of 82 buckets hats these days if things had gone to script, but Mike England loaded the team with forwards as he thought goal difference might have come into play, leaving our midfield completely outnumbered. It put paid to a few careers such as Terry Yorath & Leighton James, Mike England’s job & Swansea as an International venue. I think the Czechs would have found another point in the two games against the Soviets. I am pretty sure they would have done. Also Iceland had just drawn against the Czechs too, so clearly they werent that bad. The floodlight failures had a massive bearing on the game though. I was actually there |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 13, 2022 2:55:37 GMT
Anyone remember when we found the final piece of the puzzle, Steve Morison, and Toshack said we'd take the handbrake off against Montenegro.... lost 1-0 and he was gone after. I remember having high hopes when Freddie Eastwood turned out for Wales. Looked back on as an almost Vinnie Jones-esque character but he scored an absolute belter on his debut to give us a win in Bulgaria. It shows how bad things were that in those days a win in Bulgaria was a huge deal. Another false dawn though, to go along with all the others! My understanding of football was a little less back then. When he scored on his debut I thought we'd caught lightening in a bottle! Easter was another one, remember him getting a few goals in the League Cup and thought we'd hit the jackpot. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 13, 2022 2:58:57 GMT
That 1-1 draw against Georgia is the worst post Euro 2016 performance for me, without doubt. Very lucky to get a point in that game, Georgia had multiple opportunities to win it. First half wasn't too bad, but the 2nd half was the worst I've seen us play at home in a while (including the Ireland loss). Absolutely fell apart. Georgia have always been a banana skin to play, and I do wonder if they will ever get a bit of luck and actually qualify or at least move up the pots at some point - they clearly continuously have talented players But yeah we deserved to lose that game That Napoli lad is their Gareth Bale. I can see them qualifying for a Euros if he keeps progressing. |
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