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Post by jbt95 on Sept 10, 2023 11:39:21 GMT
Kompany overrated, you're kidding right?! Transformed Burnley overnight into a possession-led outfit, won the league with 101 points, 21 clear of third place. What exactly makes him overrated? It's Norwich City 2.0 only with a bigger budget and better squad. Daniel Farkes Norwich rinsed stronger Championships than the one Burnley won last season playing similar easy on the eye attacking football, nobody said that Farke was some sort of revolutionary though. Burnley have been smashed in their opening three games, they look naive and unable to adapt to attacking threats which is why anyone that lands a glove on them will have success. All we're hearing though is "I think they'll be alright", based on what, beating the likes of Rotherham with a load of Premier League loanees last season? They’ve played Man City, Villa and Spurs!!! Can’t judge them just yet, wait till they play the likes of Everton and Bournemouth. |
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 10, 2023 12:17:48 GMT
It's Norwich City 2.0 only with a bigger budget and better squad. Daniel Farkes Norwich rinsed stronger Championships than the one Burnley won last season playing similar easy on the eye attacking football, nobody said that Farke was some sort of revolutionary though. Burnley have been smashed in their opening three games, they look naive and unable to adapt to attacking threats which is why anyone that lands a glove on them will have success. All we're hearing though is "I think they'll be alright", based on what, beating the likes of Rotherham with a load of Premier League loanees last season? They’ve played Man City, Villa and Spurs!!! Can’t judge them just yet, wait till they play the likes of Everton and Bournemouth. While I understand your point, which carries some weight, it only serves to back up mine. They were alright against Man City Naive against Villa Outclassed by Spurs Fair enough, tough games but no team should be looking at Villa at home and not thinking that they can win this, it's Villa, who have started the season a little all over the place at times. Three home games, 0 points. Nothing much wrong with that given the opposition if you're a Sean Dyche type but this is Vincent Kompany, Pep 2.0 in a lot of people's eyes. A good manager gets 2-4 points from those games, they set their team up to adapt to the threat of the others, that's what makes them good managers. Kompany just sent them out there to play the same way and it failed, some of the stuff against Spurs was suicidal. I must stress that I said "a massively overrated manager at this point in time", he could well turn out decent but right now he's no better than Daniel Farke, David Wagner or any other manger who took a team up from the Championship playing nice football before receiving a huge wake up call in the Premier League. |
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Post by morg on Sept 10, 2023 12:39:38 GMT
These last few ports seemed to have been about Connor and Burnley but I'll carry on with the Connor theme www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/i-absolutely-hating-life-burnleys-27676561Think above article is informative. Agree that his Cymru performances may even have been not quite the same since the last Euros. Looks like there's a crisis of confidence bordering on imposter syndrome. His Welsh performances of late seem to be around fearing making a mistake. Playing in a very inhibited way as a result. I wonder too what effect his hospitalisation in early 22 was it? had on his confidence. Pneumonia was it? No reason, that he can't be back to his best for Wales talent and physically wise but I do think he needs to be effectively managed, told what a role he has in the Welsh squad and given the backing to express himself. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 10, 2023 13:43:02 GMT
They’ve played Man City, Villa and Spurs!!! Can’t judge them just yet, wait till they play the likes of Everton and Bournemouth. While I understand your point, which carries some weight, it only serves to back up mine. They were alright against Man City Naive against Villa Outclassed by Spurs Fair enough, tough games but no team should be looking at Villa at home and not thinking that they can win this, it's Villa, who have started the season a little all over the place at times. Three home games, 0 points. Nothing much wrong with that given the opposition if you're a Sean Dyche type but this is Vincent Kompany, Pep 2.0 in a lot of people's eyes. A good manager gets 2-4 points from those games, they set their team up to adapt to the threat of the others, that's what makes them good managers. Kompany just sent them out there to play the same way and it failed, some of the stuff against Spurs was suicidal. I must stress that I said "a massively overrated manager at this point in time", he could well turn out decent but right now he's no better than Daniel Farke, David Wagner or any other manger who took a team up from the Championship playing nice football before receiving a huge wake up call in the Premier League. Sorry but I massively disagree. 2-4 points at home against Man City, Villa and Spurs? Villa have picked up the second most amount of PL points since Emery was appointed. Incase you forgot, they qualified for Europe by finishing 7th and just spanked Hibs 8-0 on agg in their play-off. No doubt you said the same about Brendan Rodgers and Swansea after losing 4-0 against Man City and then drawing the next two 0-0 at home against both Wigan and Sunderland in the first three. Look how that turned out. Wagner’s Huddersfield survived. |
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 10, 2023 17:04:30 GMT
While I understand your point, which carries some weight, it only serves to back up mine. They were alright against Man City Naive against Villa Outclassed by Spurs Fair enough, tough games but no team should be looking at Villa at home and not thinking that they can win this, it's Villa, who have started the season a little all over the place at times. Three home games, 0 points. Nothing much wrong with that given the opposition if you're a Sean Dyche type but this is Vincent Kompany, Pep 2.0 in a lot of people's eyes. A good manager gets 2-4 points from those games, they set their team up to adapt to the threat of the others, that's what makes them good managers. Kompany just sent them out there to play the same way and it failed, some of the stuff against Spurs was suicidal. I must stress that I said "a massively overrated manager at this point in time", he could well turn out decent but right now he's no better than Daniel Farke, David Wagner or any other manger who took a team up from the Championship playing nice football before receiving a huge wake up call in the Premier League. Sorry but I massively disagree. 2-4 points at home against Man City, Villa and Spurs? Villa have picked up the second most amount of PL points since Emery was appointed. Incase you forgot, they qualified for Europe by finishing 7th and just spanked Hibs 8-0 on agg in their play-off. No doubt you said the same about Brendan Rodgers and Swansea after losing 4-0 against Man City and then drawing the next two 0-0 at home against both Wigan and Sunderland in the first three. Look how that turned out. Wagner’s Huddersfield survived. That's fine, we can agree to disagree, let's not make assumptions of each other though, this is a good discussion so let's keep it clean  I thought Brendan Rogers Swansea were great and their start wasn't all that bad, the difference is he wasn't being hailed as the next best manager in the World or words of similar meaning and Swansea had pieced together a decent and effective squad on a fairly tight budget with no loans from sides like Man City and Chelsea to get there. I liked Huddersfield and Wagner but they were naive and got very lucky, luck which ran out the following season which saw him sacked, Huddersfield relegated and the fortunes of both very up an down, mainly down, ever since. If you haven't got the payers you can't play the same way as you did getting promoted and get away with it, Burnley's recruitment this summer has been rubbish considering the pull they have at the minute, higher than usual for a club like Burnley because of Kompany. As I said earlier, Villa's start has been very up and down, smashing Hibs doesn't count, anyone worth their salt in European competition smashes Hibs, especially the state of them then. Villa have battered Everton but come unstuck when they played sides that punch back. Newcastle, who have lost all of their other games, smashed them, Liverpool strolled through them. Emery has admitted that it's a new season and it's different, what they did last season is largely irrelevant, as Newcastle are also finding out. Bottom line, a good manager gets a point or three from a home game against Villa, one with the hype surrounding Kompany. They also put out a side that doesn't look as dumb as Burnley did against Spurs. I just don't think Kompany has done enough to deserve the hype, that was arguably the weakest Championship since the 90's or early 00's, so much dross that some of it came very close to getting in the play offs. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 10, 2023 17:05:07 GMT
Kompany overrated, you're kidding right?! Transformed Burnley overnight into a possession-led outfit, won the league with 101 points, 21 clear of third place. What exactly makes him overrated? It's Norwich City 2.0 only with a bigger budget and better squad. Daniel Farkes Norwich rinsed stronger Championships than the one Burnley won last season playing similar easy on the eye attacking football, nobody said that Farke was some sort of revolutionary though. Burnley have been smashed in their opening three games, they look naive and unable to adapt to attacking threats which is why anyone that lands a glove on them will have success. All we're hearing though is "I think they'll be alright", based on what, beating the likes of Rotherham with a load of Premier League loanees last season? Burnley have been smashed by 3 top sides. City are the best in Europe, Spurs look like a top side this year sitting in 2nd and top 4 very realistic for them, and Villa would have finished in 2nd last season if you only count results from when Emery took over - they'll also be up amongst the European places. I'm surprised that people think a newly promoted side should be getting results against them Yes, they were "naïve" but if they didn't lose those games they would be called "bold" or "fearless", so it's all about the results really. Most mangers these days look to play systems and it allowed Burnley to annihilate the Championship but also struggle against the very best. But we should judge them on how they do against the likes of Fulham, Bournemouth, Luton, Sheff United, Everton, Wolves and Forest - most of whom look just as bad or worse after the opening games I for one think Burnley will end up mid-table, which will highlight that Kompany is a good young manager |
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 10, 2023 17:14:33 GMT
Villa aren't the very best though and you're at home, that's a winnable or drawable game for anyone in the league, nobody looks at Villa at home as one of the "free hit" games, like Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool, you look at it and think we can get something here. Yes it's early days and Burnley will probably look at home against sides similar to them but that's not the work of the second coming of Pep, that's just to be expected. I think they're in for a relegation battle, this a massive test for Kompany, the window has shut and I don't think they did enough, we'll see though.
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Post by manulike on Sept 10, 2023 18:23:16 GMT
Putting the 5-0 loss to Croatia on Friday aside, Latvia were mighty unlucky in June in both their games, conceding killer blows in injury time.
Considering our last win away from home was TWO YEARS ago v Estonia (0-1, Moore) - I will snatch at a 0-1 result tomorrow. With Roberts scoring to celebrate his 50th cap :+)
Inshaallah!
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 10, 2023 21:19:30 GMT
Hennessey and Burns haven’t travelled to Latvia, both out injured.
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Post by quetzal on Sept 11, 2023 1:09:53 GMT
Cymru inspired by Radradra dropping the ball near the line. Latvia 0- Cymru 2
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 11, 2023 8:22:47 GMT
I get the feeling it will be 0-1, probably a scrappy goal and a horrible watch… but I’d take it.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 11, 2023 9:14:46 GMT
Yeah I'm also feeling a nervy 1-0 win, perhaps a bit of Rambo magic or a piece of quality from Brennan
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Post by dai on Sept 11, 2023 9:57:28 GMT
I'm going to say 1-1. Struggle to see us scoring
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Post by welshrover on Sept 11, 2023 10:31:36 GMT
Mepham to finally get a header on target from a corner!
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Sept 11, 2023 11:48:57 GMT
2-0 to us tonight would be brilliant - a clean sheet, a boost to the goal difference and placing us in a good frame of mind for Croatia next month.
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Post by talyfan on Sept 11, 2023 12:06:05 GMT
Tough one to call. Really feel they'll be up for it and that 18 yard box will be protected against all costs.
Plenty of technical players in our side but time and time again failed to break these types of teams down. Moore will be big miss.
0-0 is my prediction. Latvias strong defense and toothless attack alongside our lack of ability to break teams down would be my reasoning
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Post by rhod on Sept 11, 2023 12:24:20 GMT
1-0 to Wales with Harry Wilson scoring the winner.
The results away at lowly ranked nations have been faultless over the last few qualifying campaigns.
The Georgia, Estonia and Armenia style slip ups have all come at home.
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Post by manulike on Sept 11, 2023 15:26:10 GMT
Hennessey and Burns haven’t travelled to Latvia, both out injured. With no Burns, I imagine that JJ is nailed on to start ... unless RP plays Rambo as a number 6 again :+( |
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Post by iantov on Sept 11, 2023 17:19:52 GMT
Mepham to finally get a header on target from a corner! ..or Rodon, finally! |
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Post by underwood on Sept 11, 2023 17:32:57 GMT
Rodon & Mepham are much more of a threat in front of their own goal than the opposition’s unfortunately.
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Post by dai on Sept 11, 2023 17:52:44 GMT
Team's out. As expected, just not sure if I'd have played both Wilson and Ramsey. Would have liked to have seen Brooks start as we could with his flair and creativeness.
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 11, 2023 17:54:35 GMT
Standard lineup. Don't like the idea of Johnson with his back to goal when he's lethal running at players. Hopefully Roberts and Williams have their crossing boots on but noone really to aim for.
I think we'll need a Wilson or Ramsey masterclass in this one.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 11, 2023 17:55:15 GMT
Lineup as most would have predicted, which is no bad thing. Things tend to go wrong for Page when there is scope for him to make left-field decisions, like playing Ramsey as a 6. It will be interesting to see the formation. Hopefully we'll go with the 3-4-2-1 box formation in possession, although 3-4-1-2 would be OK too, with Ramsey behind Johnson and Wilson.
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 11, 2023 18:31:44 GMT
Lineup as most would have predicted, which is no bad thing. Things tend to go wrong for Page when there is scope for him to make left-field decisions, like playing Ramsey as a 6. It will be interesting to see the formation. Hopefully we'll go with the 3-4-2-1 box formation in possession, although 3-4-1-2 would be OK too, with Ramsey behind Johnson and Wilson. Has Wilson ever played up front? Like in the Liverpool youth team or something. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 11, 2023 18:36:57 GMT
Lineup as most would have predicted, which is no bad thing. Things tend to go wrong for Page when there is scope for him to make left-field decisions, like playing Ramsey as a 6. It will be interesting to see the formation. Hopefully we'll go with the 3-4-2-1 box formation in possession, although 3-4-1-2 would be OK too, with Ramsey behind Johnson and Wilson. I also think he's already created his own problems. Johnson had a tough day against Korea, subbed off at half time for someone who's suspended tonight. If he bought on another striker he's at least accounting for a bad match from him. Johnson needs to play a blinder tonight. If this is 0-0 surely Page has to walk. |
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 11, 2023 18:46:39 GMT
Time to get the job done
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 11, 2023 18:48:35 GMT
Beautiful from Ethan, wasteful from Brennan
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Post by janglingjack on Sept 11, 2023 18:58:12 GMT
Brennan really needs to work on his composure and finishing doesn't he,but he is young and it will only improve,hopefully he will make me eat my words tonight
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 11, 2023 18:59:59 GMT
Brennan really needs to work on his composure and finishing doesn't he,but he is young and it will only improve,hopefully he will make me eat my words tonight Big time, for all his good work he lets himself down too often, that one with his right just now was really poor |
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Post by dai on Sept 11, 2023 19:05:39 GMT
We seem to have an obsession with walking the ball into the net. We need to take more risks and make some braver runs up front.
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