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Post by surge on Jun 6, 2024 18:21:01 GMT
As bad as this is, calm down! This is clearly being treated as a work out. None of the players are interested in going full pelt for an end of season friendly with Gib. I think it's fair to highlight this comment while also being very disappointed that our semi-pelt wasn't good enough to win regardless. It's been pretty difficult end to the season this year and we were all (maybe not Koumas who saw it as an audition and Dan James who fecking loves playing football) looking forward to it end so can get a break/pre-season. |
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Post by hooky on Jun 6, 2024 18:22:18 GMT
Just wake us up when this is over
Counting down the clock ......
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Post by ddirpytnop on Jun 6, 2024 18:24:20 GMT
A humiliating result. The only positive is that we've learnt that a rash of fringe players are either not ready for international football or in number of cases never will be. After this performance, I can't see any future in the squad for Cullen, Stevens or Savage and Matondo,Burns and Sheehan have moved to the extreme fringes.
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Post by jono on Jun 6, 2024 18:26:50 GMT
If that was England Southgate would be burning on the stake already.
He should've gone after Poland. Losing a game against a side who didn't have a shot on target against us for 120 mins was bad enough.
This is incredulous.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Jun 6, 2024 18:27:13 GMT
Should have given Paul Mullin a chance in the squad for these friendlies. Couldn't have done any worse.
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Post by surge on Jun 6, 2024 18:29:24 GMT
Can we go back to talking about tennis now?
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 6, 2024 18:36:08 GMT
At what point would you ever accuse the FAW of mismanagement. You stick up for them no matter what…. so what the water is choppy.. so what we have a leaky boat….. so what we have a dodgy captain….so what we are taking on water….who cares!! At the point that it's actually warranted. Your analogy falls flat when you're crying about choppy water on relatively flat water. Imagine this...we finish 5th in our World Cup qualification group and get relegated to League C in the Nations League - that's an actual disaster that deserves the level of criticism you're talking about But what is it that you're crying about? Missing out on penalties to qualify for a tournament against a team that have better players than us, and hypothetically losing a C friendly to poor opposition - yeah that's worth getting all worked up about! Give me a break! Just wondering on your thoughts about that game? |
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 6, 2024 18:49:01 GMT
Page has made us the butt of all jokes for our British and Irish cousins Estonia Armena Latvia Belarus and now Gibraltar You can be unfortunate once but someone has to take responsibility at some point when it becomes a pattern I watch every single game but I did not even check what time it would be on as I expected a poor performance but even I did not expect to not score a single goal against that shower of shit today. The worst thing of all is we did not even look likely to score Those that press the case for Cullen, Savage, Sheehan, Burns, etc, please don't in future as such selections allied with no coaching produce that kind of shambles. Sheehan for captain - tells you everything you need to know about mastermind Page. Of and Sorba is nowhere near good enough to get into that squad of course! I thought Burns did well. He was all we had first half. Just no one decent to get on the crosses. Faded in the second though. I never rated Sorba to be honest. |
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Post by hooky on Jun 6, 2024 19:00:48 GMT
32,000 people live in Gibraltar!
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 6, 2024 19:32:00 GMT
As bad as the result was the performance was worse. Not to create one good opportunity to score in the entire game against one of the lowest ranked sides in the world isn't acceptable. There was zero guile, intensity, imagination or tempo throughout.
Page needs a massively improved performance against Slovakia or there will be serious questions about his future.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 6, 2024 19:39:00 GMT
Is this the darkest day in Welsh football? Not even close! The Armenia defeat was far more damaging than this |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 6, 2024 19:43:32 GMT
At the point that it's actually warranted. Your analogy falls flat when you're crying about choppy water on relatively flat water. Imagine this...we finish 5th in our World Cup qualification group and get relegated to League C in the Nations League - that's an actual disaster that deserves the level of criticism you're talking about But what is it that you're crying about? Missing out on penalties to qualify for a tournament against a team that have better players than us, and hypothetically losing a C friendly to poor opposition - yeah that's worth getting all worked up about! Give me a break! Just wondering on your thoughts about that game? It was a very poor performance and one of the worst attacking performances I've seen from us. But there is more context... We're always awful in these June fixtures - the Croatia/Hungary double header springs to mind I'm sure there are others. I think I've seen us play worse in the games against Bulgaria in the Nations League when we actually had a far stronger team out. It's still very poor but people calling this the darkest day in Welsh football are way off the mark. It was essentially a run out for C players, youths and fringe players It has told me a lot about the likes of Matondo, Cullen & Burns though |
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Post by hooky on Jun 6, 2024 19:51:37 GMT
Mantando was average but he is not as poor as the likes of Sheehan, Cullen, Savage and Burns
By the way - can someone explain why Sheehan was captain?
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Post by hooky on Jun 6, 2024 19:53:58 GMT
Gibraltar are apparently ranked 203rd in the world!
I consider myself an educated man but I did not even know there were that many countries!
Well perhaps the one positive take away from tonight is that things can't get much worse under Page ............ can they?
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 6, 2024 20:10:29 GMT
The away fans were calling for pages head
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 6, 2024 20:10:37 GMT
Gibraltar are apparently ranked 203rd in the world! I consider myself an educated man but I did not even know there were that many countries! Well perhaps the one positive take away from tonight is that things can't get much worse under Page ............ can they? This is beyond embarrassing. To be honest I was half expecting Gibraltar to stick one away in the last minute as the icing on the cake. I like Page, he seems a nice enough person, but he has to come out of this and say something other than the normal lines he comes out with. No doubt they've improved a lot but historically Anglesey has performed better than Gibraltar in men's football. Crazy. |
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Post by vvm on Jun 6, 2024 20:11:13 GMT
I genuinely don’t think Page gave them any tactical instructions. I think he quite literally just said go out there and show me what you got. He couldn’t be arsed could he? They pencilled this friendly in last minute just to fulfil the obligation to have one. Would explain why Matondo and a couple others looked to have a bit about them but no idea what they were supposed to be doing.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 6, 2024 20:12:55 GMT
Mantando was average but he is not as poor as the likes of Sheehan, Cullen, Savage and Burns By the way - can someone explain why Sheehan was captain? I thought Sheehan was OK, with a few dinked balls nearly coming off, not helped by several unnecessary offsides. Colwill and Savage were disappointing. As Nathan Blake said we really needed to play quick one twos, but we lacked the movement and guile to open up a well organised defence. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 6, 2024 20:13:20 GMT
Just wondering on your thoughts about that game? It was a very poor performance and one of the worst attacking performances I've seen from us. But there is more context... We're always awful in these June fixtures - the Croatia/Hungary double header springs to mind I'm sure there are others. I think I've seen us play worse in the games against Bulgaria in the Nations League when we actually had a far stronger team out. It's still very poor but people calling this the darkest day in Welsh football are way off the mark. It was essentially a run out for C players, youths and fringe players It has told me a lot about the likes of Matondo, Cullen & Burns though This was against a team 203rd in the world and had lost their last 13 matches by 50 goals against and none scored. This wasn’t Croatia Hungary or Bulgaria. Every press report mentions the word embarrassing!! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 6, 2024 20:24:31 GMT
It was a very poor performance and one of the worst attacking performances I've seen from us. But there is more context... We're always awful in these June fixtures - the Croatia/Hungary double header springs to mind I'm sure there are others. I think I've seen us play worse in the games against Bulgaria in the Nations League when we actually had a far stronger team out. It's still very poor but people calling this the darkest day in Welsh football are way off the mark. It was essentially a run out for C players, youths and fringe players It has told me a lot about the likes of Matondo, Cullen & Burns though This was against a team 203rd in the world and had lost their last 13 matches by 50 goals against and none scored. This wasn’t Croatia Hungary or Bulgaria. Every press report mentions the word embarrassing!! And we pumped them when we played them in Wrexham so we know we can do it. It's not as if this performance proves we're as bad as them or something Honestly do you think we wouldn't have beaten them if this game mattered? This was essentially a training match. It's still poor don't get me wrong, not defending the performance. But I'm honestly not that embarrassed, I'm surprised so many are taking it to heart |
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Post by rob on Jun 6, 2024 20:27:40 GMT
Are you related to Robert Page ?
Or are you Steve Williams,President of the FAW ?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 6, 2024 20:40:44 GMT
Are you related to Robert Page ? Or are you Steve Williams,President of the FAW ? Having a balanced view of the situation means I must be a relative? Okay mate Just because I don't froth at the mouth seething with anger at a meaningless game 😂 |
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Post by talyfan on Jun 6, 2024 21:30:07 GMT
Honestly, don't think anyone looked arsed. Playing the likes of Gibraltar think mentally took our foot way off the gas and just thought we'd coast it.
Was expecting more from these fringe players. Something to prove and stake their claim. Likes of Cullen, Savage, Colwill and Sheehan Id be looking at others now for the next round of fixtures. Those lot don't play anyway may as well get as many players as possible familiar with the setup.
Really think this window Page should've just experimented call up Vaulks, Mark Harris, Isaak Davies and Mullin. Get a proper look at them. If they didn't perform so be it. And if they performed like that you'd have chalked it off for that reason they've not been called up before. But a lot of these lads today aren't far away from starting if we had a few injuries which is worrying.
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Post by wirralwelsh on Jun 6, 2024 21:56:47 GMT
This was basically equivalent to a Wales 'B' match, just experimenting to see who, out of our fringe players. looks capable of stepping up to the first team. Answer was basically none of them....so mission accomplished!
Matondo isn't a bad sub option and Burns and Cabango competent enough squad members. The remainder I wasn't expecting a lot from anyway. Colwill might come good one day, who knows?
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Post by iot on Jun 6, 2024 22:07:44 GMT
The more I think about the game, the more disappointed and frustrated I feel with the performance. Yes it was a scratch B / C side, but we have high hopes for some of those players and we were playing against a side that contains semi pros. To not create decent openings in 90 minutes is unforgivable. I'm particularly disappointed in the likes of Colwill and Burns because I expected more from them and was excited to see how they would take the opportunity given to them, but they did next to nothing. The impact from our first teamers from the bench was also really disappointing. Johnson made two great runs I think, but barely touched the ball apart from that in 20-30 minutes. Just not good enough
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Post by dai on Jun 6, 2024 22:18:36 GMT
I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that our Wales C team, comprising of Welsh Premier players would have beaten Gibraltar today.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 6, 2024 22:22:53 GMT
The more I think about the game, the more disappointed and frustrated I feel with the performance. Yes it was a scratch B / C side, but we have high hopes for some of those players and we were playing against a side that contains semi pros. To not create decent openings in 90 minutes is unforgivable. I'm particularly disappointed in the likes of Colwill and Burns because I expected more from them and was excited to see how they would take the opportunity given to them, but they did next to nothing. The impact from our first teamers from the bench was also really disappointing. Johnson made two great runs I think, but barely touched the ball apart from that in 20-30 minutes. Just not good enough That's a good summation. I struggled to see any discernible game plan. Page alluded to getting the ball out wide quicker. So why didn't we deliver on his plan? Is there a deficiency in his motivational skills? It certainly looked that way. Also, pretty much all of our 14 corners went to the back post. Where was the variety? |
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Post by cadno on Jun 6, 2024 23:15:07 GMT
This end of season friendly hasn’t done Page any favours, with many of our best players not starting, it wasn’t going to be easy breaking Gibraltar down. I’m a bit surprised Mark Harris didn’t get in the squad, is the boy in Belgium in there? He should probably be given a chance. The performance wasn’t the worst in the world, but low tempo. Disappointing result, the Slovakia game will be quite different.
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 7, 2024 1:29:14 GMT
I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that our Wales C team, comprising of Welsh Premier players would have beaten Gibraltar today. Or Wales |
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 7, 2024 1:59:04 GMT
This was basically equivalent to a Wales 'B' match, just experimenting to see who, out of our fringe players. looks capable of stepping up to the first team. Answer was basically none of them....so mission accomplished! Matondo isn't a bad sub option and Burns and Cabango competent enough squad members. The remainder I wasn't expecting a lot from anyway. Colwill might come good one day, who knows? Matondo has lethal pace but can be combated with a stretched leg. He has zero dribbling skills. He runs far too close to the defender. How many times did he actually get around his defender? Colwill is Bambi on ice. He's like a 13 year old after a growth spurt, can't figure out what his feet are doing. Koumas is a major upgrade on him. I wouldn't waste time on Cabango either. He had no defending to do and can't head the ball from corners. Even that one cleared off the line wasn't going in. |
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