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Post by jimbo82 on Sept 1, 2024 8:45:36 GMT
The onus should be on them rather than Wrexham or Shrewsbury to provide suitable stadia. If European qualification becomes a regular occurrence, they should have the stadium to facilitate. To be fair they have only just completed a massive redevelopment of the ground in which they have effectively built 2 brand new stands which are more than big enough to cope with any league or euro qualifying match. It's not unusual for teams to have to move grounds to play European games at this level. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 1, 2024 9:24:14 GMT
I’m still none the wiser why Cae Ras can’t be used. It’s the obvious choice. Cardiff don’t have an issue with teams using their ground but it’s too far for TNS.
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Post by garynysmon on Sept 1, 2024 9:55:10 GMT
The onus should be on them rather than Wrexham or Shrewsbury to provide suitable stadia. If European qualification becomes a regular occurrence, they should have the stadium to facilitate. Many if not most small European nations have very few clubs with stadia of such capacity. Larne will be playing at Windsor Park. Its a problem in Wales that Cardiff is 3/4 hours away from north/mid Wales and some clubs who own capable stadia are more accommodating than others. |
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Post by iot on Sept 1, 2024 15:21:34 GMT
The onus should be on them rather than Wrexham or Shrewsbury to provide suitable stadia. If European qualification becomes a regular occurrence, they should have the stadium to facilitate. Were you always this defensive about your club, or is it only since you had a change of fortune in recent years which has led you to believe they can do no wrong? You're suggesting something which is patently absurd. It would be ludicrous for TNS to build a multi-thousand seater stadium just to get around UEFA regs when it would never be close to full. It makes far more sense for them to make use of other stadiums for one-off fixtures, like many clubs in smaller countries do. The fact you're taking this stance suggests to me you can't handle any criticism of your club when they're again acting in a way that is unhelpful to Welsh football. Wrexham have just taken a stance in recent years that they don't want to make their ground available for these fixtures (or the Welsh Cup final and other events) because they don't think it's in their interest to do so. I've also heard from people who do community projects, Welsh football events (such as the Wal Goch festival hosted in Wrexham) and other work that Wrexham as a club have been very unhelpful. There may be reasons for that, they may simply not have the capacity and headspace to cope with everything coming their way given the spotlight on them, but there's no point denying it either way. |
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Post by gogdownsouth on Sept 1, 2024 15:43:05 GMT
I’m still none the wiser why Cae Ras can’t be used. It’s the obvious choice. Cardiff don’t have an issue with teams using their ground but it’s too far for TNS. I've read somewhere that Cae Ras is only a Cat 3 stadium compared to Shrewsbury which is a Cat 4. There's a lot of nonsense required for Cat 4 such as minimum 10 commentary positions, 60 media positions with 30 desks, press room size and VIP parking. So I suspect Wrexham might not be eligible to host these games. With the Kop redevelopment the plan is to get all of these little bits ticked off as there's planned movement of the dugouts and tunnel but until that starts the club won't facilitate any changes. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 1, 2024 19:29:18 GMT
The onus should be on them rather than Wrexham or Shrewsbury to provide suitable stadia. If European qualification becomes a regular occurrence, they should have the stadium to facilitate. To be fair they have only just completed a massive redevelopment of the ground in which they have effectively built 2 brand new stands which are more than big enough to cope with any league or euro qualifying match. It's not unusual for teams to have to move grounds to play European games at this level. Fair enough, decent response. No idea why we can't accommodate and I think it's a shame. I would have attended the Panathinaikos match. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 1, 2024 19:42:23 GMT
Maybe I am a bit on the defensive side, but I don't think it's overly considered we are still a rebuilding club and some expect us to be there to assist with improving Welsh football and get every community aspect right. I feel it'll come.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 2, 2024 11:58:43 GMT
Seeing on twitter that a Saudi club are reportedly coming in for Brad Young
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 2, 2024 12:00:03 GMT
Cymru Premier record fer apparently
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 2, 2024 12:04:54 GMT
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 2, 2024 12:41:15 GMT
I guess TNS could replace Brad Young with a free agent. Signing someone like Aaron Connolly until Xmas would be a statement signing. Given that they would earn 400K Euros for each win just one win could cover his wages.
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Post by cynonvalley on Sept 10, 2024 12:46:34 GMT
5 million euros for qualifying for the league phase?
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Post by vvm on Sept 10, 2024 13:07:16 GMT
Any news on where they'll play?
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 10, 2024 14:22:13 GMT
5 million euros for qualifying for the league phase? I think it's more like 4 million Euros they're guaranteed, or a bit under. Every ein earns 400K and every draw 100K. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 23, 2024 13:12:42 GMT
Confirmed to play their home games at Shrewsbury
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Post by surge on Sept 23, 2024 14:06:05 GMT
Pretty disappointing that they're not playing in Wales.
I am sure there are multiple factors that I don't know enough about.
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Post by welshrover on Sept 23, 2024 15:21:09 GMT
Pretty disappointing that they're not playing in Wales. I am sure there are multiple factors that I don't know enough about. They don't play in Wales now so what is the difference? |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 23, 2024 15:28:53 GMT
*Maybe* they will attract a bit more local interest than playing in north Wales? Panathinaikos at home might be a big enough name to get people to want to come along. The avid Cymru Premier fans will probably turn up no matter where it is. Maybe I'm being too generous
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Post by aberbeeg on Sept 24, 2024 21:15:48 GMT
Absolutely embarrassing show for FAW if they are to stage their games outside of Wales
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Post by welshrover on Sept 24, 2024 22:50:13 GMT
Absolutely embarrassing show for FAW if they are to stage their games outside of Wales What part of "they don't play in Wales" normally are people finding hard to grasp? They play their league games in England so why are people surprised / annoyed that they have chosen to play their Euro games in England. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 25, 2024 7:36:21 GMT
The embarrassing bit is that Wrexham were unable to stage these games. Not a good look. I really can't understand why they couldn't have staged ar least one of the games.
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Post by superunknown on Sept 25, 2024 8:49:50 GMT
The embarrassing bit is that Wrexham were unable to stage these games. Not a good look. I really can't understand why they couldn't have staged ar least one of the games. Well the ground isn’t Category 4 for starters so was never gonna happen. Would also help if TNS’ owner hadn’t spent the last decade slagging Wrexham off. But that is what it is, important thing is we’re a Category 3 ground until we get the new Kop built |
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Post by jimbo82 on Sept 25, 2024 9:14:41 GMT
The embarrassing bit is that Wrexham were unable to stage these games. Not a good look. I really can't understand why they couldn't have staged ar least one of the games. I read somewhere that there was no other ground that could "stage all 3 matches". So possibly they were only allowed to name one venue. That and the fact mentioned that the Racecourse is currently only category 3. |
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Post by iot on Sept 25, 2024 9:33:11 GMT
Absolutely embarrassing show for FAW if they are to stage their games outside of Wales What part of "they don't play in Wales" normally are people finding hard to grasp? They play their league games in England so why are people surprised / annoyed that they have chosen to play their Euro games in England. There’s an important difference for me anyway. I find it slightly embarrassing that the best team in the Cymru Prem doesn’t play in Wales. I find it more embarrassing that a club representing Wales in Europe, particularly within the group stage for the first time in our history with the added attention that brings, play all their games in England. Nothing I’m going to cry over, but it’s a shame and I think justifiably embarrassing |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 25, 2024 15:58:02 GMT
Fair enough, I wasn't aware of that limitation. Surprising it wasn't mentioned in the BBC article.
Penybont would be an excellent club for a takeover by the likes of Reynolds and McIlhenny, given that Bridgend has a population of over 50,000, similar to Wrexham's. Penybont's average gate of 690 is the highest in the league.
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Post by garynysmon on Sept 25, 2024 18:38:32 GMT
I’ve always thought that decent sized Cymru Premier club would represent a better investment than an English Football League club if I’m honest.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 25, 2024 19:40:35 GMT
I’ve always thought that decent sized Cymru Premier club would represent a better investment than an English Football League club if I’m honest. Especially that 4 million Euros are up for grabs for teams making the group stages of the Conference League. A real game changer. If those numbers don't make prospective owners sit up and take notice then I don't know what will. |
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Post by foxmulder on Sept 26, 2024 16:03:46 GMT
No one is likely to invest in a Cymru Premier club.
In the 90s/early 00's Barry attracted players from League Two/One and were a great team and they were attracted by the prospect of European football.
However the gamble went wrong nearly every year by always being drawn against the likes of Dynamo Kiev (twice), Boavista and FC Flipping Porto.
We all know what went wrong. The players cost too much. If I remember correctly, Jamie Moralee was on a stupid wage for that level.
The modern player is not going to want to step down from the league and play their football all year round at the likes of Connah's Quay and Haverfordwest. The only thing that will attract them is a good wage, but as stated above, that could be way too much of a gamble.
We just have be massively patient with the league.
Whilst the level of football hasn't improved as much as we expected from the 90s, it still has improved. And the branding is much better.
Mooney made a good point that the teams really do need to build from their community.
Today, Barry posted a nice video of one of their youth teams doing individual photoshoots and it resembled the way Sky do their photoshoots for live matches. I know that's only small, but for those kids, that's inspiring and an activity that no club would have done even 10 years ago.
This may be a stupid comment, but in the US, High School American Football attracts big crowds from the community. The teams in the Cymru Prem need to do the same.
Somehow...
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Post by iot on Sept 26, 2024 16:48:33 GMT
No one is likely to invest in a Cymru Premier club. In the 90s/early 00's Barry attracted players from League Two/One and were a great team and they were attracted by the prospect of European football. However the gamble went wrong nearly every year by always being drawn against the likes of Dynamo Kiev (twice), Boavista and FC Flipping Porto. We all know what went wrong. The players cost too much. If I remember correctly, Jamie Moralee was on a stupid wage for that level. The modern player is not going to want to step down from the league and play their football all year round at the likes of Connah's Quay and Haverfordwest. The only thing that will attract them is a good wage, but as stated above, that could be way too much of a gamble. We just have be massively patient with the league. Whilst the level of football hasn't improved as much as we expected from the 90s, it still has improved. And the branding is much better. Mooney made a good point that the teams really do need to build from their community. Today, Barry posted a nice video of one of their youth teams doing individual photoshoots and it resembled the way Sky do their photoshoots for live matches. I know that's only small, but for those kids, that's inspiring and an activity that no club would have done even 10 years ago. This may be a stupid comment, but in the US, High School American Football attracts big crowds from the community. The teams in the Cymru Prem need to do the same. Somehow... But that’s like comparing apples and oranges though isn’t it, because European football is far more lucrative now than it was in the 90s |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 26, 2024 17:45:51 GMT
No one is likely to invest in a Cymru Premier club. In the 90s/early 00's Barry attracted players from League Two/One and were a great team and they were attracted by the prospect of European football. However the gamble went wrong nearly every year by always being drawn against the likes of Dynamo Kiev (twice), Boavista and FC Flipping Porto. We all know what went wrong. The players cost too much. If I remember correctly, Jamie Moralee was on a stupid wage for that level. The modern player is not going to want to step down from the league and play their football all year round at the likes of Connah's Quay and Haverfordwest. The only thing that will attract them is a good wage, but as stated above, that could be way too much of a gamble. We just have be massively patient with the league. Whilst the level of football hasn't improved as much as we expected from the 90s, it still has improved. And the branding is much better. Mooney made a good point that the teams really do need to build from their community. Today, Barry posted a nice video of one of their youth teams doing individual photoshoots and it resembled the way Sky do their photoshoots for live matches. I know that's only small, but for those kids, that's inspiring and an activity that no club would have done even 10 years ago. This may be a stupid comment, but in the US, High School American Football attracts big crowds from the community. The teams in the Cymru Prem need to do the same. Somehow... But that’s like comparing apples and oranges though isn’t it, because European football is far more lucrative now than it was in the 90s Exactly... I don’t know how much Barry would have earned from their European adventures back in the day, but it would have been a fraction of the 4 million Euros on offer today. It's not even as if TNS had to do anything exceptional to qualify. Having won their initial tie against the Montenegro champions comfortably they then had 3 bites of the cherry, with 2 of those against opposition of a similar calibre. The likelihood is that TNS will regularly qualify for the group stages going forwards. In fact, we could even get a couple of teams making the group stages if a second club is funded and with a fully professional squad as have TNS. Another point. Caernarfon made 700K just by getting through one round of the Conference League qualifiers. |
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