|
Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 23, 2024 22:57:28 GMT
Given it looks like TNS will be competing in the Conference League group stage for the first time ever, I wanted to take a closer look at the Welsh players who will be representing them in this competition
Connor Roberts - GK 31 year old from Wrexham, formerly of the Everton & Tranmere youth academies. Called up to Cymru C but uncapped
Alex Ramsay - GK 31 year old backup goalkeeper. Floated around the Cymru Leagues his whole career, 3 caps for Cymru C 3
Jack Bodenham - Defender 24 year old from Newport. Capped 3 times for Cymru u19s. From the Cardiff youth academy
Danny Davies - Defender 29 year old capped twice for Cymru C, started out at Prestatyn Town and also played for Connah's Quay. Scored in the 3-0 win vs Panevzys
Ash Baker - Defender 27 year old from Bridgend, formerly of the Cardiff and Sheffield Wednesday youth academy. Played 12 times for Sheff Weds and 8 times for Newport. Has 3 caps at u21 level for Wales
Dan Williams - Midfielder 23 year old from Swansea. Formerly of the Swansea youth academy. 8 caps and 1 goal for Wales u21s. Scored in the 3-0 win vs Panevzys
Ben Clark - Midfielder 23 year old born in Chester, but wikipedia lists him as Welsh. Started out in Crewe Alexandra youth before moving to Chester youth and then TNS youth. Scored in the 3-0 win vs Panevzys
Leo Smith - Midfielder 26 year old from Porthmadog - Welsh speaker. 2 caps for Cymru C, and 2 caps for Cymru u19s. Started out in the Wrexham youth academy
Sion Bradley - Forward 26 year old from Blaenau Ffestiniog - Welsh speaker. Spent most of his career in the Cymru Leagues playing for teams in the north west. His career has taken off since joining Caernarfon, getting called up to Cymru C, scoring the winning goal against England C and helping Caernarfon into Europe for the first time with a sparkling performance in the playoff final, then joining TNS for his first full-time contract
If I had to rate them as who would have the most chance of playing for Cymru seniors I'd say probably Dan Williams given his age, pedigree, and experience in the youth setups.
|
|
|
Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 23, 2024 23:14:50 GMT
Mad how TNS wouldn't be in the bottom pot, and would be ahead of Hearts & Petrocub? Can someone explain to me how that works?
Realistically a dream draw would be to have glamour teams from the top 2 pots that they have no chance against, followed by an easy draw in the remaining pots. So maybe something like:
Chelsea Heidenheim HJK Helsinki TNS Petrocub Noah
|
|
|
Post by dragon64 on Aug 23, 2024 23:35:37 GMT
it felt so wrong and dirty when I celebrated TNS scoring
catch 22 situation great to get a 'Welsh' club finally into a group stage...but its TNS and this will mean given the extra finances they will now get and even bigger gap between them and rest of JD Prem
like some of their players though,shame Sion Bradley joined cant blame him but such a waste if he isnt starting really top player in Welsh Prem
|
|
|
Post by erasedcitizen on Aug 24, 2024 6:11:04 GMT
it felt so wrong and dirty when I celebrated TNS scoring catch 22 situation great to get a 'Welsh' club finally into a group stage...but its TNS and this will mean given the extra finances they will now get and even bigger gap between them and rest of JD Prem like some of their players though,shame Sion Bradley joined cant blame him but such a waste if he isnt starting really top player in Welsh Prem Supporting TNS in this competition can be a case of supporting the coefficient and Welsh contingent rather than the team. I do wish it was happening for anyone but Mike Harris though.
|
|
|
Post by fiveattheback on Aug 24, 2024 11:57:31 GMT
Mad how TNS wouldn't be in the bottom pot, and would be ahead of Hearts & Petrocub? Can someone explain to me how that works? Realistically a dream draw would be to have glamour teams from the top 2 pots that they have no chance against, followed by an easy draw in the remaining pots. So maybe something like: Chelsea Heidenheim HJK Helsinki TNS Petrocub Noah Presumably as they're in Europe more regularly they've built up their coefficient points Are Heidenheim the glamour tie in pot 2?
|
|
|
Post by welshrover on Aug 24, 2024 14:37:39 GMT
I know Ben Clark's dad through running and he considers him and Ben as English.
|
|
|
Post by dragon64 on Aug 24, 2024 19:16:03 GMT
it felt so wrong and dirty when I celebrated TNS scoring catch 22 situation great to get a 'Welsh' club finally into a group stage...but its TNS and this will mean given the extra finances they will now get and even bigger gap between them and rest of JD Prem like some of their players though,shame Sion Bradley joined cant blame him but such a waste if he isnt starting really top player in Welsh Prem Supporting TNS in this competition can be a case of supporting the coefficient and Welsh contingent rather than the team. I do wish it was happening for anyone but Mike Harris though. Agree totally hoping the backlog of fixtures already and mid week games/traveling etc will mean we see a chance for someone else to win the JD Prem
|
|
|
Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 24, 2024 23:55:56 GMT
Mad how TNS wouldn't be in the bottom pot, and would be ahead of Hearts & Petrocub? Can someone explain to me how that works? Realistically a dream draw would be to have glamour teams from the top 2 pots that they have no chance against, followed by an easy draw in the remaining pots. So maybe something like: Chelsea Heidenheim HJK Helsinki TNS Petrocub Noah Presumably as they're in Europe more regularly they've built up their coefficient points Are Heidenheim the glamour tie in pot 2? There is no glamour tie in pot 2, but Heidenheim are the only club from one of the big 5 leagues so I think they're the most glamorous of all the teams in there for that reason
|
|
|
Post by welshrover on Aug 29, 2024 21:19:42 GMT
I see Marley Watkins scored for Kilmarnock in Europe tonight.
|
|
|
Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 30, 2024 10:25:17 GMT
Forgot that they were introducing changes to the format for European competitions this year. I think this will benefit TNS as their chances of getting results for the coefficient increase given they will be playing 6 teams rather than 3
They will face one team from each pot...
*Pot 1* Chelsea Copenhagen Gent Fiorentina LASK Real Betis
*Pot 2* Istanbul Basaksehir Molde Legia Warsaw Heidenheim Djurgardens APOEL
*Pot 3* Rapid Wien Omonia HJK Helsinki Vitoria Astana Olimpija Ljubljana
*Pot 4* TNS
*Pot 5* Petrocub Hincessti St Gallen Panathinaikos Backa Topola Banja Luka Jagiellonia
*Pot 6* Celje Larne Dinamo Minsk Pafos Vikingur Reykjavik Noah
Given TNS had close games with Petrocub I'd expect them to be in with a shout of getting a draw or a win against any of the pot 5 / 6 teams barring Panathinaikos, St Gallen & Jagiellonia who are all from bigger leagues. So a dream draw in terms of glamour ties + winnable games would probably he something like:
Chelsea Istanbul / Heidenheim Olimpija Ljubljana Banja Luka Noah
|
|
|
Post by CrackityJones on Aug 30, 2024 11:09:45 GMT
Draw is at 1430 CET
|
|
|
Post by cynonvalley on Aug 30, 2024 11:31:15 GMT
I imagine they will play at CCS?
|
|
|
Post by morg on Aug 30, 2024 11:34:01 GMT
They'll also play someone from pot 4?
Cercle Brugge (BEL) Shamrock Rovers (IRL) The New Saints (WAL) Lugano (SUI) Hearts (SCO) Mladá Boleslav (CZE)
|
|
|
Post by morg on Aug 30, 2024 13:20:17 GMT
|
|
|
Post by winsumluzsum on Aug 30, 2024 13:30:00 GMT
They will be underdogs in all games, but on the plus side they could get points in 5 of the 6 games. Realistically a win over Shamrock Rovers and a couple of draws is the best they could hope for.
|
|
|
Post by cynonvalley on Aug 30, 2024 13:35:30 GMT
|
|
|
Post by winsumluzsum on Aug 30, 2024 13:40:07 GMT
They need to finish no lower than 24th out of 36 in the overall table to make the playoffs. 5 or 6 points should be enough. 7 tops. Unlikely but not impossible. A couple of draws would be a respectable showing.
|
|
|
Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 30, 2024 13:43:48 GMT
Have to target beating Shamrock Rovers and Celje, or at very worst win one draw one and then hope to nick a defensive draw against Astana
|
|
|
Post by CrackityJones on Aug 30, 2024 13:53:06 GMT
Coefficient points are double in the group stage so a win and a couple of draws will keep us well above the 4 teams threshold
|
|
|
Post by welshrover on Aug 30, 2024 17:28:23 GMT
Has anybody got the address for Confused.com😊
|
|
|
Post by talyfan on Aug 30, 2024 20:20:38 GMT
Seen potentially playing in Shrewsbury for their Conference League games?
|
|
|
Post by CrackityJones on Aug 30, 2024 21:48:30 GMT
They keep saying Wrexham is unavailable, why is that?
|
|
|
Post by erasedcitizen on Aug 30, 2024 22:55:18 GMT
They keep saying Wrexham is unavailable, why is that? Mike Harris has a strange obsession with us, I wouldn't read much into it.
|
|
|
Post by welshrover on Aug 31, 2024 8:02:11 GMT
They keep saying Wrexham is unavailable, why is that? Mike Harris has a strange obsession with us, I wouldn't read much into it. I am sure I read somewhere TNS approached Wrexham about playing there but Wrexham said no.
|
|
|
Post by garynysmon on Aug 31, 2024 8:59:35 GMT
Mike Harris has a strange obsession with us, I wouldn't read much into it. I am sure I read somewhere TNS approached Wrexham about playing there but Wrexham said no. In fairness if Wrexham are not accommodating to clubs that want to use it for European matches it weakens the argument that they should be entitled to public funding towards stadium improvements. You lose the 'community' argument altogether if its not available as a venue for other clubs when its actually needed. I don't think its been made available to any Cymru Premier clubs since coming out of Glyndwr University ownership.
|
|
|
Post by CrackityJones on Aug 31, 2024 19:05:07 GMT
|
|
|
Post by jbt95 on Aug 31, 2024 19:43:58 GMT
Seen potentially playing in Shrewsbury for their Conference League games? I bet if they were playing Florentina at home they would play it in Cardiff.
|
|
|
Post by erasedcitizen on Aug 31, 2024 20:52:44 GMT
Perhaps TNS could use some of this European money to build a ground suitable to host matches and not rely on nearby clubs.
|
|
|
Post by garynysmon on Aug 31, 2024 23:19:13 GMT
Perhaps TNS could use some of this European money to build a ground suitable to host matches and not rely on nearby clubs. "Some". You want them to build an 8,000 seater stadium? Those are UEFA's requirements, plus all the rest. Category 4 for the league stage onwards. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_stadium_categories
|
|
|
Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 1, 2024 7:08:00 GMT
Perhaps TNS could use some of this European money to build a ground suitable to host matches and not rely on nearby clubs. "Some". You want them to build an 8,000 seater stadium? Those are UEFA's requirements, plus all the rest. Category 4 for the league stage onwards. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_stadium_categoriesThe onus should be on them rather than Wrexham or Shrewsbury to provide suitable stadia. If European qualification becomes a regular occurrence, they should have the stadium to facilitate.
|
|