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Post by vvm on Nov 4, 2024 13:58:30 GMT
Eli King has been playing semi regularly for Stevenage. Think he could be in the conversation
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 4, 2024 14:44:31 GMT
With no u21 games could we see a slightly enlarged squad?
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 4, 2024 15:24:54 GMT
unless there has been major changes since the weekend , roughly the same number of players selected
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Post by manulike on Nov 4, 2024 19:09:37 GMT
Squad out tomorrow not to many changes i would say from last squad DJ set to return Cooper out (as club has reported) reading doubts on Joe Allen "limped off at the weekend" ? been away so catching up with news etc Welcome back dragonsoccer - you have been missed! |
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Post by vvm on Nov 5, 2024 10:03:10 GMT
Squad announced:
Danny Ward, Tom King, Karl Darlow
Rhys Norrington-Davies, Owen Beck, Ben Davies, Ben Cabango, Joe Rodon, Chris Mepham, Connor Roberts, Neco Williams
Josh Sheehan, Jordan James, Rubin Colwill, Harry Wilson, Sorba Thomas, Joe Allen, Dan James, David Brooks, Wes Burns
Brennan Johnson, Lewis Koumas, Keiffer Moore, Nathan Broadhead, Liam Cullen, Mark Harris
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Post by talyfan on Nov 5, 2024 10:12:34 GMT
Bit light in central midfield. Would've liked to seen another central midfielder called up - not sure on who, just so if something did happen, we'd have someone familiar with position playing there.
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 5, 2024 10:25:46 GMT
unless there has been major changes since the weekend , roughly the same number of players selected from the 25 last month Dan James return, making it 26 replacements during the last week Rubin Colwill in for Oli Cooper Tom King in for Adam Davies |
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Post by vvm on Nov 5, 2024 10:42:35 GMT
Adam Davies must be injured if King is getting the call up. I know the goalkeeper situation is rough at the moment but there has to be a better choice than King, he's barely even a player anymore. Just invite him along as a coach if that's what he's good for.
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Post by manulike on Nov 5, 2024 10:57:26 GMT
unless there has been major changes since the weekend , roughly the same number of players selected from the 25 last month Dan James return, making it 26 replacements during the last week Rubin Colwill in for Oli Cooper Tom King in for Adam Davies Can you please confirm if Matt Smith and/or Eli King are actually in the reckoning / Stand-by list?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 5, 2024 11:02:53 GMT
Keepers:
Ward
Darlow
King
Defenders:
RND
Beck
Davies
Cabango
Rodon
Mepham
Connor
Neco
Midfielders:
JJ
Sheehan
Colwill
Wilson
Allen
Brooks
Attackers:
Burns
Sorba
DJ
Brennan
Koumas
Moore
Broadhead
Cullen
Harris
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Post by manulike on Nov 5, 2024 11:07:16 GMT
Do CCFC fans out there feel that Colwill can replace Cooper in a defensive role?
Or will we be starting with Sheehan/Allen and JJ?
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 5, 2024 11:08:13 GMT
Do CCFC fans out there feel that Colwill can replace Cooper in a defensive role? Or will we be starting with Sheehan/Allen and JJ? Probably not and it would be a waste of his talent |
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Post by talyfan on Nov 5, 2024 11:30:25 GMT
Adam Davies must be injured if King is getting the call up. I know the goalkeeper situation is rough at the moment but there has to be a better choice than King, he's barely even a player anymore. Just invite him along as a coach if that's what he's good for. Maxwell played in the FA Cup and played the odd game. Owen Evans out injured I think. Dan Barden benched. Eddie Beach benched. Jonathan Bond had a few games for Watford this season although he's turned his back on Wales before. Wonder if Bellamy would ever try to convince him? |
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 5, 2024 11:32:14 GMT
Tom King has never been a consistent number 1 above League 2, and has often been a backup there
Is Connor Roberts' level really that much lower?
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 5, 2024 12:06:54 GMT
Currently no info on Matt Smith or Eli King
Bons cant switch back I am pretty sure
Eddie Beach injury
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Post by neverever on Nov 5, 2024 14:42:05 GMT
What is happening with Leeds Utd's Charlie Crew not being in the squad?
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 5, 2024 14:57:37 GMT
being 2006 born still eligible for Wales' Under 19s this season
Tbc if he is in the squad to be confirmed by the FAW asap
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Post by dragon64 on Nov 5, 2024 17:54:40 GMT
Bit light in central midfield. Would've liked to seen another central midfielder called up - not sure on who, just so if something did happen, we'd have someone familiar with position playing there. very light thought he would have brought someone in as cover hope this doesnt come back to bite him |
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Post by manulike on Nov 5, 2024 19:05:13 GMT
Do CCFC fans out there feel that Colwill can replace Cooper in a defensive role? Or will we be starting with Sheehan/Allen and JJ? Probably not and it would be a waste of his talent I might have misunderstood Craig this afternoon, but he was very insistant that he sees Rubin as able to be a defensive player in the Cooper mould - maybe not this month - but he certainly seems to suggest that he has the vision... |
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Post by surge on Nov 5, 2024 20:23:36 GMT
I don't think he is going to be like Cooper now and don't think he can fit into the same mould as that at any stage.
He's had stand out moments over past five games or so for Cardiff but one of the quieter moments was before the O'Dowda goal this weekend where he won a throw-in just by being bigger and more skillful, then won a flick on (oh my days, if he learns to use his head it takes him to another level) again by using his body size well.
Dare I say he could play in a defensive role in same way Phillip Billing used to occasionally? I think it will definitely take time and am just happy how he's developing at the moment.
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Post by talyfan on Nov 5, 2024 20:58:30 GMT
I remember Page played Colwill there once in a pivot against England. Only briefly mind and we were up shit creek.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 6, 2024 9:04:00 GMT
I don't think he is going to be like Cooper now and don't think he can fit into the same mould as that at any stage. He's had stand out moments over past five games or so for Cardiff but one of the quieter moments was before the O'Dowda goal this weekend where he won a throw-in just by being bigger and more skillful, then won a flick on (oh my days, if he learns to use his head it takes him to another level) again by using his body size well. Dare I say he could play in a defensive role in same way Phillip Billing used to occasionally? I think it will definitely take time and am just happy how he's developing at the moment. Watched Bellamy's press conferences. What Bellamy actually said about Colwill was that knowing him from such a young age, I know he can be a player who isn't just an attacking player, but it able to perform a variety of roles including more defensive ones Bellamy said Colwill's habits haven't been right until recently, and he still has a way to go. But Bellamy feels that he expected more from Colwill at his age now, and hinted that he always saw him as a potentially elite player who hasn't hit the heights of expectation He hinted that Colwill has the attributes to play as a number 6 / number 8 but isn't there yet. I don't expect Colwill to be used in that role any time soon, but could he be coached in a way that teaches him how to link play from deep and fulfill defensive responsibilities? Yes I can see that, especially given his strong frame |
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 6, 2024 11:43:33 GMT
I don't think he is going to be like Cooper now and don't think he can fit into the same mould as that at any stage. He's had stand out moments over past five games or so for Cardiff but one of the quieter moments was before the O'Dowda goal this weekend where he won a throw-in just by being bigger and more skillful, then won a flick on (oh my days, if he learns to use his head it takes him to another level) again by using his body size well. Dare I say he could play in a defensive role in same way Phillip Billing used to occasionally? I think it will definitely take time and am just happy how he's developing at the moment. Watched Bellamy's press conferences. What Bellamy actually said about Colwill was that knowing him from such a young age, I know he can be a player who isn't just an attacking player, but it able to perform a variety of roles including more defensive ones Bellamy said Colwill's habits haven't been right until recently, and he still has a way to go. But Bellamy feels that he expected more from Colwill at his age now, and hinted that he always saw him as a potentially elite player who hasn't hit the heights of expectation He hinted that Colwill has the attributes to play as a number 6 / number 8 but isn't there yet. I don't expect Colwill to be used in that role any time soon, but could he be coached in a way that teaches him how to link play from deep and fulfill defensive responsibilities? Yes I can see that, especially given his strong frame I think he played deeper under Bellamy for the youth team, but he had Sion Spence as a 10 ahead of him who was very much a golden boy at the club |
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Post by iot on Nov 6, 2024 14:23:45 GMT
Bellamy places as much stock on how players perform without the ball as they do with it. Ultimately, while Colwill appears to be improving in that area, it's the reason why Bellamy still doesn't trust him or think he's ready. As Bellamy mentioned in the Sgorio interview, one of his main 'non-negotiables' is that the team can't suffer because individuals are not doing what they need to off the ball. It's not an attitude issue with Colwill - Bellamy praised his level-headedness - it's just the lack of know-how / understanding where he needs to be and the stuff he needs to do off the ball. I think this is one of the main areas where fans and coaches are out of sync in assessing players' performance. Understandably, fans focus on what players do on the ball, whereas coaches are just as interested in how they contribute to the team shape and press etc.
All that said, Bellamy does come across very Bulut-like when discussing Colwill, and there's a stark contrast with the positivity when he discussed practically every other player (although tbf, he did make similar comments about Koumas need ing to work on his off the ball habits - how he reacts after losing the ball etc.). The current Manager's arm around the shoulder approach and building him up in the press seems to get a lot more out of Colwill than Bulut managed, so you could question Bellamy's thinking here
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Post by ddirpytnop on Nov 6, 2024 16:13:01 GMT
Bellamy places as much stock on how players perform without the ball as they do with it. Ultimately, while Colwill appears to be improving in that area, it's the reason why Bellamy still doesn't trust him or think he's ready. As Bellamy mentioned in the Sgorio interview, one of his main 'non-negotiables' is that the team can't suffer because individuals are not doing what they need to off the ball. It's not an attitude issue with Colwill - Bellamy praised his level-headedness - it's just the lack of know-how / understanding where he needs to be and the stuff he needs to do off the ball. I think this is one of the main areas where fans and coaches are out of sync in assessing players' performance. Understandably, fans focus on what players do on the ball, whereas coaches are just as interested in how they contribute to the team shape and press etc. All that said, Bellamy does come across very Bulut-like when discussing Colwill, and there's a stark contrast with the positivity when he discussed practically every other player (although tbf, he did make similar comments about Koumas need ing to work on his off the ball habits - how he reacts after losing the ball etc.). The current Manager's arm around the shoulder approach and building him up in the press seems to get a lot more out of Colwill than Bulut managed, so you could question Bellamy's thinking here It's one thing for manager to have misgivings about aspects of a player's game, and to share those misgivings with the player in order that he can correct his shortcomings. It's quite another thing to share those misgivings with the press. Colwill strikes me as a player who needs to have his self-confidence boosted rather than an arrogant one who needs to be taken down a peg or two in public. I think Bellamy has a lot to learn about man-management. |
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Post by surge on Nov 6, 2024 16:25:53 GMT
This is Rubin Colwill's best season yet by far. I think this is a testament to him more than anything but he's had previous experience of being called up to senior Wales camps when perhaps not ready, been dropped down to youth level, been built up in the press and been challenged to produce more.
I don't think it's just the last 6 games or so he's improved in. He was doing more earlier in the season when given the chance too, it's just under Riza it's gone to another level.
He's still got a lot more potential to grow into and think Bellamy saying he didn't really take step up in levels til similar age is an important part of his statement not recognised so far.
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Post by ddirpytnop on Nov 6, 2024 17:01:09 GMT
This is Rubin Colwill's best season yet by far. I think this is a testament to him more than anything but he's had previous experience of being called up to senior Wales camps when perhaps not ready, been dropped down to youth level, been built up in the press and been challenged to produce more. I don't think it's just the last 6 games or so he's improved in. He was doing more earlier in the season when given the chance too, it's just under Riza it's gone to another level. He's still got a lot more potential to grow into and think Bellamy saying he didn't really take step up in levels til similar age is an important part of his statement not recognised so far. He did say that, I agree. I just think that a lot of the rest of what he said didn't need to be said at all. Not in public at any rate. |
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Post by iot on Nov 6, 2024 19:06:07 GMT
Owen Beck misses out through injury for tonight’s game, so presumably is a doubt for our games
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 6, 2024 19:12:59 GMT
Owen picked a back/hip injury at the weekend, 100% out
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Post by iot on Nov 6, 2024 19:28:01 GMT
Owen picked a back/hip injury at the weekend, 100% out Shame, although probably wouldn’t have featured |
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