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Post by eppingblue on Apr 10, 2019 9:34:15 GMT
New FIFA rankings out tomorrow. Haven't fully got my head around the new ranking formular but its looking like you wont get quite the wild movements you used to get. At least playing friendlies no longer work against you even if the rewards are not as good as main games. There must be an outside chance that wins in Croatia and Hungary will take us into the top 10 in Europe and pot 1 for the world cup draw in July. Its a long shot though with The Netherlands and Germany also needing wins to get in the top 10.
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Post by kingstonred on Apr 10, 2019 9:40:14 GMT
Where have you heard that the World Cup draw is in July? Seems early
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 10, 2019 10:34:24 GMT
New FIFA rankings out tomorrow. Haven't fully got my head around the new ranking formular but its looking like you wont get quite the wild movements you used to get. At least playing friendlies no longer work against you even if the rewards are not as good as main games. There must be an outside chance that wins in Croatia and Hungary will take us into the top 10 in Europe and pot 1 for the world cup draw in July. Its a long shot though with The Netherlands and Germany also needing wins to get in the top 10. Who are the current top 10 in Europe then? Off the top of my head I’d assume; France, Croatia, England, Belgium, Portugal, Denmark, Switzerland, Spain & Poland were in there. Would have thought beating Croatia away in a qualifier would bump us up a fair amount. Also thinking about potentially being in Pot 2. If we continue to improve I wouldn’t rule out us challenging Croatia/Denmark/Switzerland/Poland for top spot in a WC group. Perhaps all currently would be favourites to beat us, but by 2020/21 who knows. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 10, 2019 11:03:39 GMT
Top 10 in Europe is: Belgium, France, England, Croatia, Portugal, Switzerland, Spain, Denmark, Germany, Sweden
We're 13th in Europe, I'd fancy us against Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark or Sweden
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Post by eppingblue on Apr 10, 2019 11:15:32 GMT
Top 10 in Europe is: Belgium, France, England, Croatia, Portugal, Switzerland, Spain, Denmark, Germany, Sweden We're 13th in Europe, I'd fancy us against Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark or Sweden Its a big ask to get in the top 10. In 11 and 12 are Italy and The Netherlands and behind us just is Poland. Poland and Italy will both be above us. They both played and won ranking fixture sin March and look likely to win they're fixtures in June. That means climbing above 4 countries from the teams above us. Denmark, Sweden and the Netherlands possibly. Next most likely being Croatia buts its a long way for them to fall given the new system. It goes without saying that we would need to beat them and they've already lost to Hungary. I cant remember where I got the idea the draw was in July and now I cant find any reference to it, although I was pretty certain that it was in July. |
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Post by texan on Apr 10, 2019 11:52:06 GMT
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Post by eppingblue on Apr 16, 2019 9:45:33 GMT
Not much movement under the new system was there. Had hoped wins in Croatia and Hungary could see us get in to the top 10 and pot 1 but given the amount of movement achievable that looks unlikely. We'll lose the 2016 results to a lower rating although Denmark, Sweden and Croatia could lose a fair few points as their world cup success in Russia also moves down in worth. The Netherlands having a couple of loses in Portugal would also help. Possible but unlikely so we'll have to settle for pot 2. Croatia look to be finally weakening and would probably be the weakest in pot 1, although I'm not sure I'd want the ticket limitations again.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 14, 2019 9:16:59 GMT
We are down 4 places to 23 in the FIFA rankings. We haven't been outside of the top 20 Nations for a good few years.
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Post by robin1864 on Jun 14, 2019 9:32:57 GMT
We are down 5 places to 24 in the FIFA rankings. We haven't been outside of the top 20 Nations for a good few years.
I'm getting used to it. |
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Post by eppingblue on Jun 14, 2019 9:52:46 GMT
We are down 5 places to 24 in the FIFA rankings. We haven't been outside of the top 20 Nations for a good few years.
I'm getting used to it. Crucially still in pot 2 for the World Cup draw next month. Denmark look the weakest in pot 1. Here's hoping for some teams with grounds where we can actually get tickets. |
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Post by pendragon on Jun 14, 2019 10:12:56 GMT
Are we? That's something at least then. A drop to pot 3 could have been a disaster.
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 14, 2019 11:35:02 GMT
How many qualifying groups will there be in UEFA for WC2022 ?
There were 9 in 2018.
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Post by eppingblue on Jun 14, 2019 11:43:33 GMT
How many qualifying groups will there be in UEFA for WC2022 ? There were 9 in 2018. Not sure. I've read 9 with 4 through the normal play off routes or 10 with a possible 3 through a nations league play offs. A bit confused to be honest. |
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Post by eppingblue on Jun 14, 2019 11:51:53 GMT
How many qualifying groups will there be in UEFA for WC2022 ? There were 9 in 2018. Not sure. I've read 9 with 4 through the normal play off routes or 10 with a possible 3 through a nations league play offs. A bit confused to be honest. I think its the second of those options meaning teams that were relegated from League B have a better chance of qualifying for Qatar by winning their little group and going through a much easier play off. |
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Post by rushlegend on Jun 14, 2019 12:15:57 GMT
Think there is 10 groups - 6 groups of 6 teams and 5 groups of 5 teams (55 affiliated UEFA members)
What date is the European qualification draw for the WC?
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Post by eppingblue on Jun 14, 2019 12:22:22 GMT
Think there is 10 groups - 6 groups of 6 teams and 5 groups of 5 teams (55 affiliated UEFA members) What date is the European qualification draw for the WC? 17th July |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 14, 2019 12:31:21 GMT
Crucially still in pot 2 for the World Cup draw next month. Denmark look the weakest in pot 1. Here's hoping for some teams with grounds where we can actually get tickets. Its next month? That came around quickly! |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 14, 2019 12:32:36 GMT
Are we? That's something at least then. A drop to pot 3 could have been a disaster. We're 14th in Europe, so firmly in the middle of pot 2 |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 14, 2019 12:36:02 GMT
How many qualifying groups will there be in UEFA for WC2022 ? There were 9 in 2018. Not sure. I've read 9 with 4 through the normal play off routes or 10 with a possible 3 through a nations league play offs. A bit confused to be honest. This is from Wikipedia For the qualification structure, the second season of the Nations League has been partly linked with European qualification for the World Cup, similar to the UEFA Euro 2020 qualifying play-offs.[2] In the first round, the ten group winners will qualify directly. A possible option for the second round is to add two teams based on their Nations League performance to the 10 group runners-up to make it 12 teams that will play in two knockout stages, from which an additional three teams will also qualify. The format will be finalised during the UEFA Executive Committee session with the union's national teams competitions panel on 24 September 2019 in Ljubljana, Slovenia.[3] |
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Post by eppingblue on Jun 14, 2019 12:36:06 GMT
Crucially still in pot 2 for the World Cup draw next month. Denmark look the weakest in pot 1. Here's hoping for some teams with grounds where we can actually get tickets. Its next month? That came around quickly! I know what you mean. The Euro finals draw before Xmas and the next Nations league draw shortly after that. |
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Post by kingstonred on Jun 14, 2019 12:42:20 GMT
So the Nations league counts towards World Cup Qualifying as well? I thought it was just the Euros.
Surely a team from League D can't qualify for the World Cup?!
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 14, 2019 12:43:49 GMT
ROI 20th in Europe which means pot 2, going to be difficult to qualify if don't do it as 1st team.
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 14, 2019 12:56:39 GMT
The 48 team WC for 2026 would be split like this
Europe 16 teams (13 currently)55 members ; Africa 9 (5)50 members; Asia 8.5 (4.5)47 members, South America 6 (4.5)10 members, Concacaf 6.5 (3.5)41 members , Oceania 1 (0.5)14 members, Host nation 1 (1).
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Post by richierich333 on Jun 14, 2019 21:21:05 GMT
Slipping down I see I hope we don't end up in 3 figures again
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Post by eppingblue on Jun 14, 2019 21:56:31 GMT
Slipping down I see I hope we don't end up in 3 figures again We're sure to drop a few places next month as wins in the Euro's against Russia, NI and Belgium go from being more than 2 years old to being more than 3 years old. |
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Post by zakbaby on Jun 15, 2019 4:49:13 GMT
The 48 team WC for 2026 would be split like this Europe 16 teams (13 currently)55 members ; Africa 9 (5)50 members; Asia 8.5 (4.5)47 members, South America 6 (4.5)10 members, Concacaf 6.5 (3.5)41 members , Oceania 1 (0.5)14 members, Host nation 1 (1). How can South America have 6 out of 10 places available? Harder to fail. Can we join that federation? Ha ha. Australia changed from Oceania to Asia |
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Post by oscardelta on Jun 15, 2019 10:08:46 GMT
The 48 team WC for 2026 would be split like this Europe 16 teams (13 currently)55 members ; Africa 9 (5)50 members; Asia 8.5 (4.5)47 members, South America 6 (4.5)10 members, Concacaf 6.5 (3.5)41 members , Oceania 1 (0.5)14 members, Host nation 1 (1). How can South America have 6 out of 10 places available? Harder to fail. Can we join that federation? Ha ha. Australia changed from Oceania to Asia I agree. A pretty much guarantee unless you are really bad.
As my Indian born friend said decades ago, "I don't want India or Pakistan in a World Cup, everytime they get a corner they will build a shop".
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Post by myrddin on Sept 6, 2020 21:17:38 GMT
Anyone know where the last 2 results are likely to leave Wales in the FIFA rankings?
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Post by southcoastwelsh on Sept 6, 2020 21:45:12 GMT
I think we only pick up 10 points because the teams we beat are lower than us. But potentially enough to move above Poland if they lose again next week. Tough for us to get to the 10th Euro seed for the WC draw but you never know!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 6, 2020 21:46:31 GMT
Finland & Bulgaria both below us lying in 58th & 59th respectively. We're currently in 23rd for context. So they'd be regarded as fixtures we should be winning according to the rankings. That being said, we've put together a good run of results now, so I'd imagine that would help us in a ranking context. Ireland are up in 34th, so beating them would make a bigger difference
I can't see us overtaking too many European teams ahead of us based on these results, but could we possibly overtake USA/Peru/Senegal ahead of us who aren't playing competitively? Possibly. I'd say we could get into the top 20
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