|
|
Post by welshiron on Jul 23, 2018 19:38:02 GMT
We'd field youth players, as we did last time - our reserve team took Airbus to extra time ffs. Not sure what your third point has to do with our ability to field Welsh players. The last non-top flight Welsh team to win the cup was Borough United in 1963, so being brutally honest there is no "chance" a Welsh club outside the existing 12 (or one that yo-yo's) could make it to Europe.Do you seriously think Cardiff or Swansea City would want or need the gate receipts from taking a few thousand to Carmarthen? It makes far better business and ethical sense for them to donate their share to the home club. Changing the season from winter to summer would be little more than polishing a turd in my opinion. I used to be supportive of the WPL, but seeing how pathetic clubs have been, and the FAW ever allowing the Vaughans to own Bangor have killed any hopes I had of it improving. Still, be nice to watch a bit of competitive football whilst waiting for Wrexham to start their preseason. Cardiff City fans look away now, but I'm afraid in 1994 Barry Town of the Welsh League Division 1 won the cup, and went into Europe! I was there 2-1 I think David Hough and David D'auria |
|
|
|
Post by conwy10 on Jul 23, 2018 21:47:52 GMT
Club licencing has come into the feeder leagues this season.For the first time all clubs in the Cymru alliance and Welsh league division 1 have to have 250 seats and floodlights which wasnt the case before particularly in the south. Perhaps with the restructuring of the league system Merthyr annd Colwyn have the oportunity to make the move full force,we know some in Merthyr want it to happen so who knows. FAW are trying to modernise the pyramid anyway and thats a positive. Dont think you can say Wrexham reserves could finish second in the WPL based on one result 7 years ago.Their first team could no doubt or even win it but their second string would probably be mid table cymru alliance at best.Newport County could possibly put a second side out top of the Welsh league or maybe bottom of the WPL but where are the going to play-dont they groundshare with the egg? Cardiff and Swansea were invited to the Welsh cup in 2011 but spurned it.The Europa league simply isnt a carrot for them but theyll take it if they qualify through the English system as Swansea did.Reserve sides are not the answer but its an interesting topic. TNS seem in fine fettle after nearly creating history and would have been the first team in history to overturn a 5-0 defeat in the UCL.Hopefully they will take that form into the Europa league. Yeah I didn’t mean it literally that one result ages ago would mean we’d finish 2nd. I was just pointing out that if you use one result to say they couldn’t win it the result could be seen the other way. Is it 100% there is no European Licence? If not why couldn’t Bangor play in Europe? They filled the criteria to qualify, they didn’t get relegated for match fixing or something it was because they owe money. Is it similar to this financial fair play PSG keep getting warned they could get kicked out of Europe. I never heard of Bangor going over the FAW’s heads to UEFA to keep their European spot it was more trying to stay in the Prem. I agree TNS did well to win 4-0, but they lost the first leg 5-0. I don’t know enough about Macedonian football to know how good the opponents are and TNS have got through the first qualifier quite regularly so I’m slightly disappointed with the result. I’d love to see Welsh football stay with the domestic teams but they need to start justifying it. If it’s because of when the league starts that’s a no brainer, it should be changed instantly. Other than that where is the money Wales is putting into Welsh football going. Where’s the value for money if we’re getting done over by San Marino and Lithuanian teams. I can’t believe Latvia, Estonia, Armenia are plowing money into grassroots football so when is it going to pay off at club level? |
|
|
|
Post by welshiron on Jul 23, 2018 22:21:51 GMT
We can't expect much of a return as when a youngster shows any sign of ability he is signed up by one of the bigger clubs with more money.
We currently have a player on trial with Newport so no idea if he will be with us next season.
What I would like to see is more young players like Nathan Craig given a platform when they are released.
A couple of good seasons in the Welsh premier league could see him revive his career.
Another thing is if the clubs in 5he English league really cared they could loan a couple of players out and cover the wages.
Maybe someone like Spence could spend a season with his home town club Barry for example.
|
|
|
|
Post by robin1864 on Jul 24, 2018 17:57:37 GMT
Dont think you can say Wrexham reserves could finish second in the WPL based on one result 7 years ago.Their first team could no doubt or even win it but their second string would probably be mid table cymru alliance at best. That's odd, Mike Harris seems to think TNS are just as good as Cardiff or Swansea off the basis of European appearances (regardless of how badly they get spanked) & FAW Premier Cup results 15 years ago. |
|
|
|
Post by foxmulder on Jul 24, 2018 20:54:53 GMT
Barry Town just beat Swansea reserves 2-0. Well deserved too  |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 11:05:57 GMT
Europa League qualifiers: New Saints planning Cardiff City switch www.bbc.com/sport/football/44953760Welsh champions The New Saints will play their Europa League third qualifying round tie at Cardiff City Stadium should they progress in the competition. Saints will face Kazakhstan side Astana or Midtjylland of Denmark if they beat Lincoln Red Imps of Gibraltar. They face Lincoln in the first leg at Park Hall on Thursday. Uefa regulations mean Saints' Park Hall in Oswestry is unable to stage games after the second qualifying round. The two-legged third qualifying round will be held on 9 and 16 August. Scott Ruscoe's side dropped into the Europa League after they lost 5-4 on aggregate to Shkendija in the Champions League first qualifying round. Venue: Park Hall, Oswestry Date: Thursday, 16 July Kick-off: 19:00 BST |
|
|
|
Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 25, 2018 11:10:30 GMT
Europa League qualifiers: New Saints planning Cardiff City switch www.bbc.com/sport/football/44953760Welsh champions The New Saints will play their Europa League third qualifying round tie at Cardiff City Stadium should they progress in the competition. Saints will face Kazakhstan side Astana or Midtjylland of Denmark if they beat Lincoln Red Imps of Gibraltar. They face Lincoln in the first leg at Park Hall on Thursday. Uefa regulations mean Saints' Park Hall in Oswestry is unable to stage games after the second qualifying round. The two-legged third qualifying round will be held on 9 and 16 August. Scott Ruscoe's side dropped into the Europa League after they lost 5-4 on aggregate to Shkendija in the Champions League first qualifying round. Venue: Park Hall, Oswestry Date: Thursday, 16 July Kick-off: 19:00 BST I think they should sell tickets at really low price to get a bigger crowd, and kids go free. The WPL should help with subsidising the programme and advertising the WPL. They should use this as an opportunity...................... if they get there. |
|
|
|
Post by jimbo82 on Jul 26, 2018 15:04:21 GMT
Europa League qualifiers: New Saints planning Cardiff City switch www.bbc.com/sport/football/44953760Welsh champions The New Saints will play their Europa League third qualifying round tie at Cardiff City Stadium should they progress in the competition. Saints will face Kazakhstan side Astana or Midtjylland of Denmark if they beat Lincoln Red Imps of Gibraltar. They face Lincoln in the first leg at Park Hall on Thursday. Uefa regulations mean Saints' Park Hall in Oswestry is unable to stage games after the second qualifying round. The two-legged third qualifying round will be held on 9 and 16 August. Scott Ruscoe's side dropped into the Europa League after they lost 5-4 on aggregate to Shkendija in the Champions League first qualifying round. Venue: Park Hall, Oswestry Date: Thursday, 16 July Kick-off: 19:00 BST I think they should sell tickets at really low price to get a bigger crowd, and kids go free. The WPL should help with subsidising the programme and advertising the WPL. They should use this as an opportunity...................... if they get there. Also maybe some sort of deal for Cardiff City (or Newport/Swansea even) season ticket holders. The CCS does seem a bit large though for a game like this. Anyone know why Wrexham /Newport/Chester(??) weren't available? |
|
|
|
Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 26, 2018 16:19:46 GMT
I think they should sell tickets at really low price to get a bigger crowd, and kids go free. The WPL should help with subsidising the programme and advertising the WPL. They should use this as an opportunity...................... if they get there. Also maybe some sort of deal for Cardiff City (or Newport/Swansea even) season ticket holders. The CCS does seem a bit large though for a game like this. Anyone know why Wrexham /Newport/Chester(??) weren't available? Yeah i cant see them selling over 5k |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 17:13:07 GMT
EUROPA LEAGUE PROGRESS 'VITAL' FOR TNS BOSS RUSCOE www.faw.cymru/en/news/europa-league-progress-vital-tns-boss-ruscoe/?back=/en/news/&pos=1On the verge of making history with what was almost an unbelievable comeback against KF Shkendija in the UEFA Champions League last week, eventually succumbing 5-4 on aggregate to the Macedonian outfit, the attentions of Scott Ruscoe’s The New Saints now turn to Lincoln Red Imps in the UEFA Europa League.... |
|
|
|
Post by chislenko on Jul 28, 2018 7:46:10 GMT
On a personal note, as someone who follows a team in the Welsh pyramid, the biggest disappointment for me in recent times is the 12 team WPL.
It is everything I feared it would after seeing it in action in Scotland for some years.
|
|
|
|
Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 30, 2018 10:16:23 GMT
On a personal note, as someone who follows a team in the Welsh pyramid, the biggest disappointment for me in recent times is the 12 team WPL. It is everything I feared it would after seeing it in action in Scotland for some years. Could you expand on that? What in particular has been a disappointment, and how do you feel they could improve it? |
|
|
|
Post by chislenko on Jul 30, 2018 18:43:48 GMT
On a personal note, as someone who follows a team in the Welsh pyramid, the biggest disappointment for me in recent times is the 12 team WPL. It is everything I feared it would after seeing it in action in Scotland for some years. Could you expand on that? What in particular has been a disappointment, and how do you feel they could improve it? My main concern was the monotony of playing the same teams many times a season especially if you also draw them in cup competitions. Also not a fan of the league split. For me personally I would go back to the 20 team league. |
|
|
|
Post by 1gwaunview on Jul 30, 2018 19:00:38 GMT
One problem in increasing the league would be to further dissipate the already limited quality available, and hand TNS (the richest team) even more of an advantage.
Anymore than say 15/16 teams and it'll be TNS league champions every year (as it is now), with euro money pulling them further away from the pack.
A summer WPL would at least have the teams in season when European football commences.
|
|
|
|
Post by chislenko on Jul 30, 2018 19:20:36 GMT
One problem in increasing the league would be to further dissipate the already limited quality available, and hand TNS (the richest team) even more of an advantage. Anymore than say 15/16 teams and it'll be TNS league champions every year (as it is now), with euro money pulling them further away from the pack. A summer WPL would at least have the teams in season when European football commences. I spend summer at my summer residence so that would be one less supporter for my team coupled with people taking their holidays in summer the attendances would be further reduced. |
|
|
|
Post by cymro on Jul 30, 2018 20:13:20 GMT
One problem in increasing the league would be to further dissipate the already limited quality available, and hand TNS (the richest team) even more of an advantage. Anymore than say 15/16 teams and it'll be TNS league champions every year (as it is now), with euro money pulling them further away from the pack. A summer WPL would at least have the teams in season when European football commences. I spend summer at my summer residence so that would be one less supporter for my team coupled with people taking their holidays in summer the attendances would be further reduced. Most people don't have a 3 or 4 month summer holiday 😂 |
|
|
|
Post by 1gwaunview on Jul 31, 2018 9:57:31 GMT
I spend summer at my summer residence so that would be one less supporter for my team coupled with people taking their holidays in summer the attendances would be further reduced. Most people don't have a 3 or 4 month summer holiday 😂 It's a no brainer that if you play European games out of the WPL season then the results will invariably be poor, and the reputation of the league will be further besmirched and ridiculed as the years go by. |
|
|
|
Post by chislenko on Jul 31, 2018 11:14:42 GMT
I spend summer at my summer residence so that would be one less supporter for my team coupled with people taking their holidays in summer the attendances would be further reduced. Most people don't have a 3 or 4 month summer holiday 😂 Retirement opens up a world of possibilities Cymro, just wish I could have done it earlier not now that I am only fit for the scrapheap!! |
|
|
|
Post by foxmulder on Jul 31, 2018 13:09:54 GMT
On a personal note, as someone who follows a team in the Welsh pyramid, the biggest disappointment for me in recent times is the 12 team WPL. It is everything I feared it would after seeing it in action in Scotland for some years. Personally I quite like the 12 teams. I thought I'd hate it for the reasons you mentioned but I've found it quite exciting. One win and you fly up the league, one loss and you crash down. I believe this makes it harder for the likes of TNS. You also get to know the other teams better too. Back in the 20 team days, you could have Welshpool, Briton Ferry and Caemaes Bay in a row, leading to a set of not very exciting fixtures. (I don't mean any disrespect to those teams). However, I will agree that I don't like the split. Whilst technically TNS would be playing against harder teams for the remainder of the season, the chances of a them losing against a lesser team to throw the group wide open, is non-existent. Also, Barry finished in the top half of the bottom group last season. They didn't lose one game in the bottom group and ended up with more points that the team who finished 6th. What was the point in that? |
|
|
|
Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 31, 2018 13:20:27 GMT
On a personal note, as someone who follows a team in the Welsh pyramid, the biggest disappointment for me in recent times is the 12 team WPL. It is everything I feared it would after seeing it in action in Scotland for some years. Personally I quite like the 12 teams. I thought I'd hate it for the reasons you mentioned but I've found it quite exciting. One win and you fly up the league, one loss and you crash down. I believe this makes it harder for the likes of TNS. You also get to know the other teams better too. Back in the 20 team days, you could have Welshpool, Briton Ferry and Caemaes Bay in a row, leading to a set of not very exciting fixtures. (I don't mean any disrespect to those teams). However, I will agree that I don't like the split. Whilst technically TNS would be playing against harder teams for the remainder of the season, the chances of a them losing against a lesser team to throw the group wide open, is non-existent. Also, Barry finished in the top half of the bottom group last season. They didn't lose one game in the bottom group and ended up with more points that the team who finished 6th. What was the point in that? Yeah, i dont like the split to be honest. I think 12 teams is good for quality, but also needs to be a summer league. |
|
|
|
Post by foxmulder on Jul 31, 2018 14:24:29 GMT
100%
|
|
|
|
Post by conwy10 on Aug 1, 2018 21:27:41 GMT
On a personal note, as someone who follows a team in the Welsh pyramid, the biggest disappointment for me in recent times is the 12 team WPL. It is everything I feared it would after seeing it in action in Scotland for some years. Personally I quite like the 12 teams. I thought I'd hate it for the reasons you mentioned but I've found it quite exciting. One win and you fly up the league, one loss and you crash down. I believe this makes it harder for the likes of TNS. You also get to know the other teams better too. Back in the 20 team days, you could have Welshpool, Briton Ferry and Caemaes Bay in a row, leading to a set of not very exciting fixtures. (I don't mean any disrespect to those teams). However, I will agree that I don't like the split. Whilst technically TNS would be playing against harder teams for the remainder of the season, the chances of a them losing against a lesser team to throw the group wide open, is non-existent. Also, Barry finished in the top half of the bottom group last season. They didn't lose one game in the bottom group and ended up with more points that the team who finished 6th. What was the point in that? I think the split is just a way to get an ideal amount of games. 22 is too few, 44 is too much, 32 is about right. I like the fewer team league, you have to push yourselves to stay in the division. If you go down you’ve only got a 1/16 chance of going back up. If TNS weren’t walking away with the league it’d be a dogfight to be champions. |
|
|
|
Post by welshiron on Aug 2, 2018 7:35:23 GMT
The team that knocked tns out are now in the final quifying round
|
|
|
|
Post by derynglas on Aug 2, 2018 19:11:41 GMT
TNS have gone through to the next round after a 1-1 draw with Lincoln red imps.
Romero gave the home side the lead just before half time.
Dean Ebbe scored the all important equaliser on 82 min. ,aggregate 3-2.
So made hard work of it but these kinds of teams can make life difficult.
FC Midtjylland of Denmark at CCS next Thursday.
|
|
|
|
Post by cymroircarn on Aug 2, 2018 19:13:25 GMT
TNS have gone through to the next round after a 1-1 draw with Lincoln red imps. Romero gave the home side the lead just before half time. Dean Ebbe scored the all important equaliser on 82 min. ,aggregate 3-2. So made hard work of it but these kinds of teams can make life difficult. FC Midtjylland of Denmark at CCS next Thursday. Might be interested in this. Any idea in ticket cost? |
|
|
|
Post by derynglas on Aug 2, 2018 19:27:08 GMT
No idea.10-15 quid I'd imagine be surprised if it's more than that.
|
|
|
|
Post by derynglas on Aug 3, 2018 8:51:24 GMT
Tickets are £5 apparently.
|
|
|
|
Post by phillywelsh83 on Aug 3, 2018 13:08:47 GMT
£5 yep, just purchased 2, only Grandstand on sale through CCFC Ticket Sales page. Can buy through TNS, but says you have to pick up. Midtjylland are a very decent side, especially a few years ago. Will be a very difficult task for TNS tbh.
|
|
|
|
Post by superunknown on Aug 3, 2018 15:52:55 GMT
£5 yep, just purchased 2, only Grandstand on sale through CCFC Ticket Sales page. Can buy through TNS, but says you have to pick up. Midtjylland are a very decent side, especially a few years ago. Will be a very difficult task for TNS tbh. They're the Danish champions I'd say this is the end of the road for them sadly. Not the biggest fan of TNS as their owner slags off Wrexham at every opportunity but it's still Welsh representation but I can't see them beating the Danish champs over 2 legs. |
|
|
|
Post by phillywelsh83 on Aug 6, 2018 11:55:17 GMT
£5 yep, just purchased 2, only Grandstand on sale through CCFC Ticket Sales page. Can buy through TNS, but says you have to pick up. Midtjylland are a very decent side, especially a few years ago. Will be a very difficult task for TNS tbh. They're the Danish champions I'd say this is the end of the road for them sadly. Not the biggest fan of TNS as their owner slags off Wrexham at every opportunity but it's still Welsh representation but I can't see them beating the Danish champs over 2 legs. Definetly agree, this is the end of the road for TNS, but its first leg, so may be tight to a point, its £5 a ticket and not far away. |
|
