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Post by cymruunedig on May 27, 2010 9:11:38 GMT
Looks like we've found another Anglo with a Welsh gran!!
Anyone know mych about this guy? Been scoring goals for fun for Millwall, heck of a step up to international football mind! Another Eastwood (as in he'll win a few caps before being cast into the international wilderness by El Gordo)??
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Post by welshwizard79 on May 28, 2010 16:17:09 GMT
This guy looks a better prospect than Eastwood 6.2, can bury a penalty and scored alot of goals in his first League 1 season. Hopefully they go up this weekend
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Post by marsvolta on May 29, 2010 21:24:53 GMT
millwall promoted,so that means another championship striker for us.i'm all for getting our playing pool as big as poss. got a good scoring record but nothing to suggest that he'll be higher up the list than church,evans and earnshaw or our premiership boys vokes and bellars.prob get a look in above eastwood and easter tho.
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Post by llannerch on May 30, 2010 12:45:48 GMT
From straight out of non-league he scores for fun in League One? I'd say he's Eastwood Mark II....so wait for the big money move and the goals to dry up.
Unless anybody here is a Millwall fan and provide a better critique, I'd rather give him 6 months in the Championship before he comes anywhere near a squad....unless there's an injury crisis and we have to resort to calling up Easter
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Post by Tim P on May 30, 2010 13:00:15 GMT
he seems like one to keep a quiet eye on - but not hype up too much.
if eastwood is serious about a career at chapionship level, he really needs to do it this season. but will the new man at coventry fancy him?
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Post by saints19 on May 30, 2010 14:41:36 GMT
Our striking situation: quantity over quality.
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Post by flynnfan on May 30, 2010 17:41:43 GMT
been reading up a bit about Steve Morison- score 20 or more for the last 6 seasons. I know most of those were in non-league but it suggests that he's possibly something of a 'natural goalscorer' . And he seems to have a bit of aggression about him, which sugggests he might be a better bet than Sam Vokes at this point in time. Big fan of Vokesy but I really wish he'd get a bit more aggression into his game and then he'll be a hell of a player.
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Post by llannerch on May 30, 2010 19:40:54 GMT
Big fan of Vokesy but I really wish he'd get a bit more aggression into his game and then he'll be a hell of a player. In Moscow he played up front on his own for an hour and gave his marker a torrid time. When he came on in Montenegro he did the same. I think he puts himself about enough as it is. Any more, and the Contintenal refs will be gunning for him...he'll rack up yellow cards quicker than Jason Koumas with an away game on his mind |
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Post by saints19 on Jun 1, 2010 13:58:04 GMT
he'll rack up yellow cards quicker than Jason Koumas with an away game on his mind ;D |
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Post by flynnfan on Jun 1, 2010 19:17:57 GMT
yeah, its a good line that!
John Hartson used to fall foul of refs all the time at the start of his Wales career, but then he learnt to be a bit more clever- arching his back after going up for a header with a defender in order to win free kicks further up the field etc. Vokes is a great prospect, and I totally agree that he was superb in Montenegro and Moscow, but I saw him play for the U21s just recently and was really hoping to see a bit more bite from him. You can be clever and agressive- Hartson is the man Vokes should be looking to emulate. He could do with some games and I'm not sure he'll get many at Wolves next season. A long lone to a good championship club could be in order?
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Post by llannerch on Jun 1, 2010 20:41:15 GMT
yeah, its a good line that! He could do with some games and I'm not sure he'll get many at Wolves next season. Absolutely. A season-long loan in the Championship would do him the world of good. The Swans would be a good choice. They play good football with a big man up front. Swans fans maybe happy with Kuqi mind  |
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Post by flynnfan on Jun 4, 2010 12:30:02 GMT
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 15, 2010 13:21:46 GMT
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Post by medibot on Jul 15, 2010 14:45:05 GMT
Interesting. If he scores just one winning goal in the next campaign it'll be worth the gamble.
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Post by scoop76 on Jul 15, 2010 22:08:49 GMT
this is a very similar, if not the same, story to the one BBC Wales ran about Morison 2 months ago. I'm having problems posting the link, but you'll find it with a google search of Morison and Wales |
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 16, 2010 14:10:44 GMT
I think that's the article I put up 2 posts before you scoop. Looks like Morison will get a call up for Luxembourg if he starts the season in Millwalls team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2010 14:24:20 GMT
I really want to see this lad play for us. As Im often fond of saying- we cant afford to rule anyone out, especially up front. His 'style' would put him as a direct competitor to Vokes as a target man up front and crucially it seems that he knows where the net is as well. Hope he gets a call up for Luxembourg and does enough to make himself undroppable for Montenegro. I dont have a lot of faith in Evans, Church and Vokes and Im hoping we will see big things of Morison and Robson-Kanu. God knows we need some luck in the striker department.
A bit O/T but re: the article that flynnfan posted- is Kenny Jackett really Welsh?!?!
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 16, 2010 14:42:15 GMT
Saw Kenny Jackett play for us the first match I ever went to- Wales v Spain 1985. I think his old man was from Swansea?
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Post by matty on Jul 16, 2010 14:46:00 GMT
I dont have a lot of faith in Evans, Church and Vokes and Im hoping we will see big things of Morison and Robson-Kanu. God knows we need some luck in the striker department. I'd like to see Morison picked but you have to have faith in Evans, Church and Vokes! Evans has shown he has the touch of class - the good season at Norwich and the goals at U21 level (more goals than games isn't it?) - he's just had a big money move and things need to settle down. This season is his big one, and he needs to score 20+. Church and Vokes...I understand having reservations, but they'll come good. All 3 are of the mark at international level, and Wales' all time record goal scorer only got 20 odd! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2010 14:58:17 GMT
Has been outstanding for Millwall according to Radio Bristol. His strength is causing Bristol Citys defence all sorts of problems and helped to set up the opening goal.
Early days but he sounds like Championship level is coming naturally to him. Really hoping he starts against luxembourg, we have seen Church and Evans enough times to know what they are about. Give Morison a chance from the start so he can be a contender in Montenegro.
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Post by saints19 on Aug 7, 2010 15:32:10 GMT
Eastwood has scored twice in Coventry's game, on for a hat-trick.
Earnie starting for Forest, had a couple of efforts but no goal so far.
Vokes not starting for Bristol City.
I'd start Morison, agreed. However, Eastwood will have to be kept in mind.
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Post by Tim P on Aug 7, 2010 15:49:15 GMT
you'd start morison based on a good season in league one and one decent game in the championship? that is remarkable.
i'd be far happier getting him in the squad and watching him train, seeing how he links up with the rest of the squad in terms of attitude, personality and also ability.
then, if in a couple of months he is still in the milwall team, and scoring/assisting, then call him up again, look at him train again, and consider him for selection.
as for eastwood- it's good that he's scored twice today. but really, he needs to be scoring on a regular basis over a far longer period of time.
seriously, ched might start tomorrow and score twice (hopefully in a 3-2 win for Cardiff mind).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2010 15:58:07 GMT
you'd start morison based on a good season in league one and one decent game in the championship? that is remarkable. i'd be far happier getting him in the squad and watching him train, seeing how he links up with the rest of the squad in terms of attitude, personality and also ability. then, if in a couple of months he is still in the milwall team, and scoring/assisting, then call him up again, look at him train again, and consider him for selection. as for eastwood- it's good that he's scored twice today. but really, he needs to be scoring on a regular basis over a far longer period of time. seriously, ched might start tomorrow and score twice (hopefully in a 3-2 win for Cardiff mind). What other options are there? We have seen a lot of Evans and Church and to be honest they dont bring a lot to the table as yet. We are in a position where, certainly up front, we have to throw numerous things at the wall and see what sticks. Morison has a physical presence and unlike Vokes he seems to know how to use it. I would call up Eastwood, but sadly I think we have seen the last of him for whatever reason as the last time he hit form he was overlooked. Its not like we have a raft of premiership strikers to choose from is it? |
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Post by Tim P on Aug 7, 2010 16:08:38 GMT
when was the last time eastwood hit form? and by 'hitting form', i mean a period of 10+ games? honestly, id be surprised if eastwood STARTED in ten consecutive games last season, let alone made a scoring/assisting contribution in them.
you are right though, we don't have many options. but i'd rather continue to develop the likes of church, vokes and evans for the time being, and gradually blood someone like morison IF he shows the required commitment and quality over the next couple of months.
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Post by Tim P on Aug 7, 2010 16:15:11 GMT
just looked eastwood up:
2009/10:
league starts: 21/46 + 15 appearances off the bench.
league goals: 8
now given that out of those eight goals, three were part of a hatrick, that means he scored on, at most, six occasions over the whole season. i know that stats can be manipulated, but i cannot fathom how he could possibly have hit form at any point over the 2009/10 season.
tragically, that was his best season for years.
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Post by idiot on Aug 7, 2010 18:53:33 GMT
it's a mix of both arguments,we shouldnt just throw him into the deep end for the sake of having a look but if he impresses in training then why not put him in
we know what the other options can do so if he impresses before hand then a friendly with luxembourg is an ideal way of getting his 1st step on the ladder
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Post by saints19 on Aug 7, 2010 19:28:58 GMT
you'd start morison based on a good season in league one and one decent game in the championship? that is remarkable. i'd be far happier getting him in the squad and watching him train, seeing how he links up with the rest of the squad in terms of attitude, personality and also ability. then, if in a couple of months he is still in the milwall team, and scoring/assisting, then call him up again, look at him train again, and consider him for selection. It's a friendly against Luxembourg. We don't really stand to lose much by starting him. |
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Post by Tim P on Aug 7, 2010 19:36:27 GMT
apart from the morale of the other strikers who turn up consistently - even for awful friendlies which their clubs really don't want them to go to.
if morison is comitted, he should have absolutely no problem with getting to know his 'fellow Welshmen', training under Our Leader, and possibly getting twenty minutes at the end.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2010 19:47:29 GMT
apart from the morale of the other strikers who turn up consistently - even for awful friendlies which their clubs really don't want them to go to. if morison is comitted, he should have absolutely no problem with getting to know his 'fellow Welshmen', training under Our Leader, and possibly getting twenty minutes at the end. Do we keep playing out of form players just because we are frightened of hurting their feelings? They have to roll with the punches and accept that if they had shown more we wouldnt have to look at the likes of Morison. Thats how football works. Get stuck in and be a handful and even if you dont score you have still justified your place. Evans in particular has struggled imo, he isnt scoring (not surprising given the service) but has he made defenders break a sweat? Cant say he has imo. I do see what you are saying though, we struggle enough to get the existing players to turn up. But if they are going to get the hump so easily then we have to question their commitment dont we? |
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Post by saints19 on Aug 7, 2010 20:01:50 GMT
I'd be very surprised if a player regarded being left out of the side for a friendly against Luxembourg as a reason to quit the national team. Very surprised.
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