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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 23, 2021 16:04:06 GMT
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Post by rushy on Apr 23, 2021 17:38:53 GMT
If the WFA have decided to give it to Page now, it's not looking good for Giggs in court.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 24, 2021 7:46:44 GMT
If the WFA have decided to give it to Page now, it's not looking good for Giggs in court. These trials often take the best part of a year to resolve. That is the reason Page is taking charge at the Euros.
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Post by quetzal on Apr 25, 2021 14:59:22 GMT
Goodluck to Robert Page. Our second Rhondda Valley born manager at a major championship. It’s a results based business and he got the results so we move on. Goodluck. Albert Stuivenberg a big part to play as well.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 25, 2021 15:42:42 GMT
Whether Giggs leaves now or later, I think Page will one day be our full time manager. I really like him, he reminds me more of Cookie in the way that he speaks
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Post by dragonsoccer on May 1, 2021 16:31:52 GMT
Rob Page was at Stoke today, Adam Davies, Rhys Norrington-Davies, Rabbi Matondo all started, Vokes on 76
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Post by CrackityJones on May 5, 2021 13:02:07 GMT
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Post by cymru888 on May 6, 2021 23:11:18 GMT
Does anyone know where Rob is from in the Rhondda / his schooling? I know his POB is Llwynypia, but that’s where the hospital was.
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 7, 2021 18:05:29 GMT
Does anyone know where Rob is from in the Rhondda / his schooling? I know his POB is Llwynypia, but that’s where the hospital was. I can't find any other info, I reckon it would be mentioned if he grew up somewhere else in the Rhondda, good chance he's from Llwyn-y-pïa
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Post by cymru888 on May 8, 2021 2:35:53 GMT
Does anyone know where Rob is from in the Rhondda / his schooling? I know his POB is Llwynypia, but that’s where the hospital was. I can't find any other info, I reckon it would be mentioned if he grew up somewhere else in the Rhondda, good chance he's from Llwyn-y-pïa Someone on Twitter suggested he went to Ferndale Comp. Presumably would have gone to Tonypandy comp if from Llwynypia.
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Post by cymru888 on May 8, 2021 18:57:54 GMT
I can't find any other info, I reckon it would be mentioned if he grew up somewhere else in the Rhondda, good chance he's from Llwyn-y-pïa Someone on Twitter suggested he went to Ferndale Comp. Presumably would have gone to Tonypandy comp if from Llwynypia. Mystery solved, he’s from Tylorstown. Hospital locations such as Llwynypia and Church village need to stop taking the credit for sports stars and celebrities.
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 8, 2021 21:19:11 GMT
Someone on Twitter suggested he went to Ferndale Comp. Presumably would have gone to Tonypandy comp if from Llwynypia. Mystery solved, he’s from Tylorstown. Hospital locations such as Llwynypia and Church village need to stop taking the credit for sports stars and celebrities. Tylorstown is where the landslide happened during the flooding a little while back isn't it? If so I drove past that the other day. The tip looked very ominous & much bigger than I expected after seeing footage of the landslide on twitter
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Post by cymru888 on May 9, 2021 1:17:41 GMT
Mystery solved, he’s from Tylorstown. Hospital locations such as Llwynypia and Church village need to stop taking the credit for sports stars and celebrities. Tylorstown is where the landslide happened during the flooding a little while back isn't it? If so I drove past that the other day. The tip looked very ominous & much bigger than I expected after seeing footage of the landslide on twitter Yes that’s it, the clear up is costing millions without all the other flood repairs in and around RCT. Other notables from Tylorstown include Jimmy Wilde (The Tylorstown Terror) and Steve Jones (presenter) Paul Whitehouse is originally from neighbouring Stanleytown.
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Post by manulike on May 12, 2021 14:41:53 GMT
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Post by cynonvalley on Jun 1, 2021 16:32:55 GMT
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Post by dai on Jun 1, 2021 16:54:24 GMT
Who would have thought that Robert bloody Page would manage us during a major tournament? Fairplay to him, he's handled himself commendably since he 'took over', and I've always been impressed each time he talks.
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 7, 2021 10:22:30 GMT
Can’t help but feel Rob page isn’t the right man to be leading us into a major tournament. It’s almost like he’s got the job by default after the whole Giggs fiasco. I hope I’m wrong and I hope we replicate Our French adventures of 2016. It just feels completely underwhelming at the moment ( I know COVID plays a huge part) but we couldn’t even sell 6000 tickets for our first and last game so maybe I’m not the only one feeling a tad underwhelmed?
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Post by jimbo82 on Jun 7, 2021 10:36:38 GMT
Can’t help but feel Rob page isn’t the right man to be leading us into a major tournament. It’s almost like he’s got the job by default after the whole Giggs fiasco. I hope I’m wrong and I hope we replicate Our French adventures of 2016. It just feels completely underwhelming at the moment ( I know COVID plays a huge part) but we couldn’t even sell 6000 tickets for our first and last game so maybe I’m not the only one feeling a tad underwhelmed? He has a 50% win record (the same as Giggs and Speed), winning 4 out of 8 matches - and the only 2 defeats have been away to Belgium and France. It's notable that since he joined Giggs's team as assistant/defence coach we have looked a lot stronger at the back. I think people's only complaints are that he hasn't picked HRK and that he hasn't been starting Moore. I'm sure he knows what he's doing, and I don't think he's doing it much differently than Giggs would be. Keep the faith! BTW - does anyone know the actual attendance for the Albania game? - definitely not the 6500 advertised! (but on that point, I think the lack of sales is more to do with the tight turnaround, and the issues with the ticket website when they eventually did go on sale, rather than a lack of interest from the Red Wall).
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Post by quetzal on Jun 7, 2021 16:27:58 GMT
Can’t help but feel Rob page isn’t the right man to be leading us into a major tournament. It’s almost like he’s got the job by default after the whole Giggs fiasco. I hope I’m wrong and I hope we replicate Our French adventures of 2016. It just feels completely underwhelming at the moment ( I know COVID plays a huge part) but we couldn’t even sell 6000 tickets for our first and last game so maybe I’m not the only one feeling a tad underwhelmed? I am starting to have doubts but it’s Giggs fault. I really don’t know what the FAW could have done? Imagine if they went someone like Mourinho just for the tournament. There would have been hell!!!
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Post by hooky on Jun 7, 2021 16:49:50 GMT
Yes it is Giggs' fault. I was pleased to see him prove so many people wrong then he presses the self destruct button.
Page has not let us down yet but he was extremely inexperienced prior to the role falling into his lap, and I am really worried about his defensive bias and our lack of creative play which I blame on the system. Switzerland and Turkey are better than Bulgaria and Finland. Defending to sneak a goal in the last few minutes is not going to keep working. We are highly unlikely to get to the quarters, let alone semi-finals, so lets play good football and not hang on hoping a few crumbs fall our way. Bale, Ramsey, James, Wilson, Moore and Neco should be at least equal in an attacking sense to the attacks of Turkey or Switzerland. Our midfield is the main concern.
If we flop then I hope the FAW will be ruthless and try to get a decent coach in. Qualifying for the World Cup is the bigger picture and we cannot waste that opportunity, given we are highly likely to have a play off spot - we need a decent manager to give it our best effort!
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Post by insertname on Jun 7, 2021 17:29:27 GMT
Nobody really knows who the organ grinder is at the moment. Is Giggs still involved as a “consultant” behind the scenes? He is still a paid employee... Either way, as I’ve said before, it’s surprising that people seem to be over-looking the journey that has taken place under Giggs. It’s not great to watch but the current iteration know how to win games, only the other day people were bigging up a so called B-team for beating Mexico and yet in the same breath they are catastrophising because a fairly scratch side had a bad first half against Albania. You can’t have it all ways imo- there really should be more faith in what this group have achieved so far, they have certainly earned it by proving over the last two years that they can win games when it matters even when being written off time and time again by their own fans. Edit: Actually, that’s a good point- keep writing them off for God’s sake because it’s been working a treat so far
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Post by welshowl on Jun 7, 2021 18:08:08 GMT
In one way it's been a similar build up to this tournament as Euro 2016. Rather shabby results/performances in friendlies. What that team and coaches had though was stability and a definite first XI that everybody knew. This time, we're all struggling here to guess what team we'll put out against Switzerland. Maybe 7-8 definites we can agree on, and then 3-4 that could go either way depending on fitness and system. For now, given our Nations League promotion secured with a few of our main players missing (now back), I have to have faith in Page.
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 9, 2021 10:03:14 GMT
Page must think all his birthdays have come at once. To be managing his Country at a major finals in every managers dream. Yet it’s literally just been landed in his lap thanks to Giggs and his constant self destruction.
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Post by msjohns on Jun 10, 2021 7:15:27 GMT
In fairness to Page, he was appointed as Wales Under-21 boss before Giggs got the job, so he was clearly seen by the FAW as someone capable of developing our young players.
He also gained some tournament experience at the Toulon Tournament in 2017 featuring some of our current squad players like Rodon, James and Roberts, so I don't think he is a bad choice at all.
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Post by gwernybwch on Jun 10, 2021 11:26:50 GMT
Page must think all his birthdays have come at once. To be managing his Country at a major finals in every managers dream. Yet it’s literally just been landed in his lap thanks to Giggs and his constant self destruction. Getting the job because of a campaign by prominent journalists at national newspapers and websites is the job landing in your lap. Being the defence coach that resulted in the team becoming one of the hardest team to score against is getting the job on merit (the fact that Giggs is still costing the FAW a fortune and Page was 'cheap' also helped).
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Post by squatter1 on Jun 25, 2021 9:08:26 GMT
Like it or not, Robert Page has already guaranteed himself the job for the World Cup, no matter what happens tomorrow. (Assuming Giggs doesn’t come back)
That’s not me expressing an opinion, just realising a fact.
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Post by insertname on Jun 25, 2021 10:31:00 GMT
Like it or not, Robert Page has already guaranteed himself the job for the World Cup, no matter what happens tomorrow. (Assuming Giggs doesn’t come back) That’s not me expressing an opinion, just realising a fact. Yeah, I mean I can’t imagine his Euros performance review meeting lasting very long. For me, there are some question marks over tactics- is a false 9 really a viable long term plan B? To look at it another way though, seeing as the FAW like to hire Welshmen for the managers job who else is out there that would a) do a better job and b) want the job at all? So it’s Page by default but he’s obviously earned the right to carry on by getting past the group stage and the players seem to have bought into him too which is another significant issue in his favour.
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Post by jonnylitts on Jun 25, 2021 12:07:21 GMT
For me he's done a decent job.
There's going to be a lot of legal issues around Giggs if he gets aquited but if he doesn't, it would be a tough decision to sack Page.
Thought he didn't cover himself in glory in the Swiss match. We were clearly getting overun in attack and midfield but he did nothing and then took our best player off after we scored.
Much better performance against Turkey but was that just them 🤔
Re. Possible replacements: After watching Jayne Ludlow on Elis James'feast of football. I'd definitely have her as a candidate. Showed technical knowledge and calmness I've not seen in any pundit for a long time!
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Post by insertname on Jun 25, 2021 13:00:03 GMT
For me he's done a decent job. There's going to be a lot of legal issues around Giggs if he gets aquited but if he doesn't, it would be a tough decision to sack Page. Thought he didn't cover himself in glory in the Swiss match. We were clearly getting overun in attack and midfield but he did nothing and then took our best player off after we scored. Much better performance against Turkey but was that just them 🤔 Re. Possible replacements: After watching Jayne Ludlow on Elis James'feast of football. I'd definitely have her as a candidate. Showed technical knowledge and calmness I've not seen in any pundit for a long time! I’m going to defend him and say that it was a brave and understandable call to take James off. I presume Page saw Turkey as the winnable game and we needed James to have fresh legs, especially given how the Turks tend to defend so high up the pitch. It ended up paying off so fair play to him. And don’t forget how the Swedish manager took Isak off against Spain when he was the best player on the pitch, so Page is in good company 😂
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Post by quetzal on Jun 25, 2021 13:06:58 GMT
For me he's done a decent job. There's going to be a lot of legal issues around Giggs if he gets aquited but if he doesn't, it would be a tough decision to sack Page. Thought he didn't cover himself in glory in the Swiss match. We were clearly getting overun in attack and midfield but he did nothing and then took our best player off after we scored. Much better performance against Turkey but was that just them 🤔 Re. Possible replacements: After watching Jayne Ludlow on Elis James'feast of football. I'd definitely have her as a candidate. Showed technical knowledge and calmness I've not seen in any pundit for a long time! Ludlow a great pundit. The Wales men’s job? Not sure about that because ultimately she couldn’t get the women’s team across the qualifying line.
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