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Post by abwales on May 7, 2014 14:30:24 GMT
Set to play for Wales. Mother from Rhyl. Premier league CB. Great news. Only heard good things about him.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on May 7, 2014 14:32:27 GMT
Very good defender from what ive seen and read.
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Post by welshiron on May 7, 2014 14:45:02 GMT
Great News we now have 4 premiership centre backs available and as such should have no need to pick players out of position or from league 1 (both in Ricketts case)
He is the perfect age 25 and has played 133 games for Hull (24 in the premiership this season)
However, looks likely to miss FA Cup final due to a hamstring injury.
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Post by welshwizard79 on May 7, 2014 14:45:46 GMT
Great news
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Post by squatter1 on May 7, 2014 15:18:09 GMT
This would be excellent news.
Just asked my English Hull supporting mate about him:
"James Chester is a quality centre half – part of the Man Utd youth production line. Very at home in the Championship last year, but has stepped up to Prem level with some aplomb. Not the tallest but has a good leap so is decent in the air, though his main attributes are his pace and positional awareness. Has formed a strong partnership with Curtis Davies, though Chester’s contribution is often overlooked as Davies has had such a great season. Chester is susceptible to hamstring strains though – he missed a lengthy spell in the spring and then limped off against Villa on Sat. Now desperately hoping he’s going to be fit for Wembley…"
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Post by toshfan on May 7, 2014 15:50:36 GMT
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Post by biwmares on May 7, 2014 15:54:22 GMT
Well done to Chris Coleman for getting him onboard & no mention of it prior to confirmation unlike that Turner & Shawcross fiasco
Croeso James Caer a phob lwc I chdi
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Post by welshiron on May 7, 2014 15:58:01 GMT
Better defender than Turner and a better bloke than Shawcross (has to be doesn't he!)
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Post by mortillsy on May 7, 2014 16:40:53 GMT
Great News!
He's a mile better than Turner. Looks relatively quick! Although he is partial to the odd OG!!! Ha
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Post by ontheroadagain on May 7, 2014 17:39:15 GMT
Agree. Great news.
Withe the players already in the Wales squad it would have bee a nobrainer surely.
Well done Coleman.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on May 7, 2014 18:06:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2014 18:18:45 GMT
Just goes to show there are players at the highest level who are right under our nose and we don't have a clue they are eligible.
Good on the lad- I will support him all the more as he has committed out of the blue with no glory in sight (yet).
You would think he's an automatic starter alongside Williams. Collins will be chuffed, he might be getting more time off now after all.
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Post by abwales on May 7, 2014 18:36:08 GMT
I'd like to praise Coleman for going through every player in premier league to check if they're eligible. It must've been pain staking to go through every single agent by himself to ask if the players they represent qualify. To double check with all their parents as well, what a man, never-mind the grandparents. He probably bought all the birth certificates out of his own pocket of those players that say they do qualify to confirm everything - legend. He must've filled out all the paper work so he's allowed to play against the Dutch too and the phone call - wow, he moved mountains to convince him I bet, the greatest manager ever. LOVE THE GUY.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2014 19:23:53 GMT
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Post by squatter1 on May 7, 2014 19:27:58 GMT
I'd like to praise Coleman for going through every player in premier league to check if they're eligible. It must've been pain staking to go through every single agent by himself to ask if the players they represent qualify. To double check with all their parents as well, what a man, never-mind the grandparents. He probably bought all the birth certificates out of his own pocket of those players that say they do qualify to confirm everything - legend. He must've filled out all the paper work so he's allowed to play against the Dutch too and the phone call - wow, he moved mountains to convince him I bet, the greatest manager ever. LOVE THE GUY. Top post, hehehehe |
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Post by Baxter Cymru on May 7, 2014 20:51:59 GMT
I'd like to praise Coleman for going through every player in premier league to check if they're eligible. It must've been pain staking to go through every single agent by himself to ask if the players they represent qualify. To double check with all their parents as well, what a man, never-mind the grandparents. He probably bought all the birth certificates out of his own pocket of those players that say they do qualify to confirm everything - legend. He must've filled out all the paper work so he's allowed to play against the Dutch too and the phone call - wow, he moved mountains to convince him I bet, the greatest manager ever. LOVE THE GUY. #ColemanIn |
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Post by squatter1 on May 7, 2014 21:19:58 GMT
You would think he's an automatic starter alongside Williams. Shaft 40+ caps James Collins for the first volunteer that comes along and go back to having just two center backs in the squad right away, and one of them is now not quite as good as Collins. That would be a great idea. Wish you were in charge. |
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Post by nathan1710 on May 7, 2014 21:35:54 GMT
Great to have another half decent CB in the squad as we are thin in that position. All we need now is for Tom Lawrence to start banging in 40 a season for United and we've got ourselves a qualifying team for the Euros ;-)
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2014 21:49:00 GMT
You would think he's an automatic starter alongside Williams. Shaft 40+ caps James Collins for the first volunteer that comes along and go back to having just two center backs in the squad right away, and one of them is now not quite as good as Collins. That would be a great idea. Wish you were in charge. Calm down dear, its only a mouse! It sounds like, from your tone, you would pick Collins if only to keep him sweet. The guy is reaching the twilight of his years, is a liability and does not play well alongside Williams. This is a gilt edged chance to bed in a centre back pairing that we can rely on for more than the next campaign. Collins even if available, won't play in any more than half our games next campaign with or without Chester, but we put up with it because we have no choice.....well not anymore! |
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Post by rob on May 7, 2014 21:56:30 GMT
James Chester and emergence of Emyr Huws and Tom Lawrence could possibly significantly improve chances of good qualifying campaign.Collins likely to miss approx 50% of games,Huws already good enough to start and Lawrence can play up front with Bale in Vokes' absence.Neither are orthodox strikers but both skilful enough to interchange positions.These 3 are 3 new additions to our best 18 players(starting line up,7 subs).
Joe Walsh could be in 6 months time too(Gabbidon 33 soon?).Also probably David Edwards back in Championship next season-unlike Crofts appreciates playing for Wales.
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Post by rob on May 7, 2014 21:58:25 GMT
This hopefully also leads to us telling Dummett where to go as he has taken us for fools.
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Post by abwales on May 7, 2014 22:01:56 GMT
Collins is vital. I mean... look what happened when he played Belgium. He marked Kompany right off the pitch... or was it Collins off the pitch... someone went off the pitch... Oh, and he scored... umm well... one of them two scored...
But ye anyway, I think we have 3 strong CB's now which is great. It'll be interesting to see who starts against Andorra if all 3 are fit. Odds are on Williams and Chester.
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Post by biwmares on May 7, 2014 22:04:34 GMT
And hopefully Darcy Blake back in contention.
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Post by squatter1 on May 8, 2014 8:43:27 GMT
"It sounds like, from your tone, you would pick Collins if only to keep him sweet."
No: A, he's a better CB than Chester, B, I have a rudimentary grasp of team psychology and can imagine what shafting a veteran for a blow-in would do.
"The guy is reaching the twilight of his years" Centre Backs often hit their peak around 30.
"is a liability and does not play well alongside Williams." Change the record, and learn not to bear grudges. Collins has been our best defender since he made peace with Coleman.
"Collins even if available, won't play in any more than half our games next campaign with or without Chester"
Collins will play every game that he's not injured for next campaign.
"but we put up with it because we have no choice.....well not anymore!"
Put up with what? I thought we'd been through your double standards on this issue already? Sack Allen, Collison, Ramsey, etc, etc, for playing for their clubs either side of not playing for us.
I'm sorry, but the desire to promote the first anglo that comes along over a veteran player (who is in fact a better player too) smacks of a small minded personal grudge, lacks class and football sense.
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Post by nathan1710 on May 8, 2014 10:35:06 GMT
I've been trying to find out if James Chester is the only one who has been recently looked into by Coleman and his team. Are they in talks with other agents of other dual qualified players? I'm sure Chester isn't the only one they have looked into. Does anyone know if there's anyone else on his radar an if so who they are?
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Post by toshfan on May 8, 2014 11:34:29 GMT
The fact that it is now possible to have a Collins vs Chester debate adds the whole positive nature of the story. We can all agree that we need more strength in depth and I think we could have more to come.
I do agree that since Collins patched things up with Coleman, he has been excellent.
From the games against Macedonia and Belgium we realised that we had more strength in depth than we previously thought. This builds on that even further.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 11:41:19 GMT
"It sounds like, from your tone, you would pick Collins if only to keep him sweet." No: A, he's a better CB than Chester, B, I have a rudimentary grasp of team psychology and can imagine what shafting a veteran for a blow-in would do. "The guy is reaching the twilight of his years" Centre Backs often hit their peak around 30. "is a liability and does not play well alongside Williams." Change the record, and learn not to bear grudges. Collins has been our best defender since he made peace with Coleman. "Collins even if available, won't play in any more than half our games next campaign with or without Chester" Collins will play every game that he's not injured for next campaign. "but we put up with it because we have no choice.....well not anymore!" Put up with what? I thought we'd been through your double standards on this issue already? Sack Allen, Collison, Ramsey, etc, etc, for playing for their clubs either side of not playing for us. I'm sorry, but the desire to promote the first anglo that comes along over a veteran player (who is in fact a better player too) smacks of a small minded personal grudge, lacks class and football sense. Well, that's one hell of a conclusion to draw, perhaps you should change your username to Sigmund1? In fact I almost hate to disappoint you that the reasoning is rather more mundane than that. Looking at Collins previous track record it is reasonable to expect that at some point in the near future he will not be available (for whatever reason). As centre back partnerships are usually exactly that, a partnership, it makes sense to forego who is the better player (especially as that is highly subjective anyway because all 3 are premiership players and Collins has flaws for all his qualities) in favour of trying to forge a partnership that is more than the sum of its parts and could potentially be the bedrock of our side for many years to come. Makes perfect sense to me, even more so when factoring in other aspects such as Williams and Collins notoriously not being a favourable partnership and the fact that Collins has previously missed many games either through injury or whatever and so on that basis is likely to miss more in the future. Or we could pair Collins with Chester but that involves dropping the captain and hardly seems very 'future-proof' given Collins age, injury record and commitment issues. Either way Chester should be involved from the off, he is the future, given our lack of options in that position. |
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Post by flynnfan on May 8, 2014 12:10:43 GMT
I've been trying to find out if James Chester is the only one who has been recently looked into by Coleman and his team. Are they in talks with other agents of other dual qualified players? I'm sure Chester isn't the only one they have looked into. Does anyone know if there's anyone else on his radar an if so who they are? I've been thinking about this too since hearing about James Chester. The Irish press seems to know about which players are avaialable for them but not declared yet. If Bananaman was competent he'd be doing this sort of thing too. Surely there must be at least 2 or 3 more in the Prem/Championship available to us? www.newstalk.ie/Six-potential-Grannys-Boys-on-Irelands-radar |
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Post by matty on May 8, 2014 12:14:13 GMT
This is great news for us. I do wonder if the timing is to do with him not likely to get to the World Cup with England but it makes no difference. The Collins v Chester debate won't need answering that often because we always seem to have one centre back out injured, and its the lack of strength in depth in this area that we suffered with the most last campaign. How much do we wish for a decent young centre back to come through - suddenly we've got a ready made 25 year old one! |
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Post by squatter1 on May 8, 2014 12:18:36 GMT
I'm sorry, but the desire to promote the first anglo that comes along over a veteran player (who is in fact a better player too) smacks of a small minded personal grudge, lacks class and football sense. Well, that's one hell of a conclusion to draw, perhaps you should change your username to Sigmund1? In fact I almost hate to disappoint you that the reasoning is rather more mundane than that. Looking at Collins previous track record it is reasonable to expect that at some point in the near future he will not be available (for whatever reason). As centre back partnerships are usually exactly that, a partnership, it makes sense to forego who is the better player (especially as that is highly subjective anyway because all 3 are premiership players and Collins has flaws for all his qualities) in favour of trying to forge a partnership that is more than the sum of its parts and could potentially be the bedrock of our side for many years to come. Makes perfect sense to me, even more so when factoring in other aspects such as Williams and Collins notoriously not being a favourable partnership and the fact that Collins has previously missed many games either through injury or whatever and so on that basis is likely to miss more in the future. Or we could pair Collins with Chester but that involves dropping the captain and hardly seems very 'future-proof' given Collins age, injury record and commitment issues. Either way Chester should be involved from the off, he is the future, given our lack of options in that position. How about factoring in Chester's history of hamstring injuries? |
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