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Post by phillygaz on Aug 22, 2015 11:01:23 GMT
True, but the danger is too many become EPL subs and squad players. Match fitness then becomes the issue. Fingers crossed Ledley, Chester, Collins, Allen and one or two others play plenty of Prem football. Lawrence, Vokes, Jazz Richards are the kind of players who are definitely better off getting matches in the Championship for different reasons.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Aug 22, 2015 11:31:30 GMT
Fazio is awful, like he's towing a caravan!
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Post by llan123 on Aug 23, 2015 4:07:29 GMT
Fazio is a quality player, not so much for Spurs but he was quality in Spain before he moved. Can't see Chester getting a look in if he signs so hope it breaks down. So you're saying an £8m defender signed this summer is not going to get a look in because of a £5m defender? Yes. What they got bought for has nothing to do with it, that's like saying shite like Andy Carroll and Soldado are world class because of their price tag. Pulis is obviously in the market for another defender and after he was dropped for the Watford game last week I think that's rather ominous in regards to him playing week in week out. Hopefully he's back in the side for the Chelsea game today. Don't you think it's in our best interest they don't sign anyone? Seems a reasonable thing for me to say to be honest. |
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Post by llannerch on Aug 23, 2015 7:16:40 GMT
There was an interesting quote from Chester saying that training [under Pulis] is completely different to anything he was used to. He will need time to adjust
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Post by ae15 on Aug 23, 2015 10:19:27 GMT
So you're saying an £8m defender signed this summer is not going to get a look in because of a £5m defender? Yes. What they got bought for has nothing to do with it, that's like saying shite like Andy Carroll and Soldado are world class because of their price tag. Pulis is obviously in the market for another defender and after he was dropped for the Watford game last week I think that's rather ominous in regards to him playing week in week out. Hopefully he's back in the side for the Chelsea game today. Don't you think it's in our best interest they don't sign anyone? Seems a reasonable thing for me to say to be honest. Of course we don't want them to sign anyone, but why would you sign a player for £8m, a substantial amount of your budget if you're not going to play them? He's only experimenting with his best line up at the moment. |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Aug 28, 2015 19:47:07 GMT
With West Brom buying another centre back in Jonny Evans it looks as if Chester's role will be as a full back there.
Chester must be looking forward to the Wales games to play in his best position.
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Post by hookd on Aug 28, 2015 20:07:13 GMT
Just typical. We get a much need boost by getting hold of a desperately needed classy centre back and Pullis, allegedly a passionate Welshman, decides to finish his career as a centre back. Chester is no full back and Wales has about 6 adequate full backs as it is!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 20:33:20 GMT
Its the same as Madrid playing Bale on the wing. So long as he performs for Wales in a free role then theres no harm done.
That being said, its not ideal for him or us really. Pisses me off. Historically we always struggle to get our players playing first team football in their chosen positions, eg we havent had an established keeper since Southall, all his successors have all done time on the bench for their clubs because they weren't rated whilst their mediocre English counterparts get the world handed to them on a plate.
I'm not saying there is an anti welsh agenda, but there is certainly something about being English that earns mediocre players a lot of license.
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Post by alarch on Aug 28, 2015 20:57:53 GMT
I think it could be a blessing in disguise. We currently don't have a Premier League right back (Ok Matthews excepted), so who's to say Chester can't prove he's worth selecting at right back for us? Gunter and Richards have done well, but we've yet to see true quality, especially offensively, from our right backs. We also have quality alternatives at centre back - so it wouldn't surprise me if this pans out in our favour.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Aug 29, 2015 13:42:13 GMT
Not in the West Brom squad today.
Pulis says that he has a minor hamstring injury.....
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Post by ger93 on Aug 29, 2015 13:45:51 GMT
Not in the West Brom squad today. Pulis says that he has a minor hamstring injury..... Doesn' t sound good to me. If he won't play today, I doubt Pulis will want him playing on Thursday. |
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Post by welshwizard79 on Aug 29, 2015 13:50:50 GMT
Played a full game plus extra time in week. Hopefully just being rested today.
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Post by abwales on Aug 29, 2015 14:27:15 GMT
Nooooo! The regular human player of the campaign so far! Big blow.
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Post by ozziejay8 on Aug 29, 2015 15:00:22 GMT
Yea doesn't look good. With James Collins not playing either - he hasn't played this season at all. Could well be 4 at the back with Ben Davies playing cb?
I hope Chester is just resting *fingers crossed*
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Post by ysbryd on Aug 29, 2015 17:14:28 GMT
This will be the campaign that everything works out. So Chester will be fine.
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Post by cadno on Nov 13, 2015 13:50:38 GMT
He made his debut against the Netherlands last year and he's been superb for us since then! He's definitely one of our unsung heroes. So comfortable on the ball and under pressure, can pass it out from the back and he's good in the air too. Oh and an excellent tackler/defender overall - pure quality!!
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Post by welshiron on Nov 13, 2015 14:46:55 GMT
Pure Quality,
Lets be honest he has done well but has only played a handful of games.
I would probably prefer Collins if we play a back for but in a back 5 he is probably better suited to play the right side of the 3
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Post by welshiron on Nov 13, 2015 14:49:24 GMT
Also there must be question marks about his match fitness as he can't get a sniff at West Brom, he also struggled for a game at times at Hull who got relegated
Maybe one of those players who play better for their country, like HRK who the Reading fans I've spoken to don't rate at all
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Post by abwales on Nov 13, 2015 16:37:08 GMT
If I were to rank contributions during the campaign he would easily get in my top 3. The best player over the first 5 games. I'm not sure we'd be where we are now without him.
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Post by welshiron on Nov 13, 2015 16:51:41 GMT
Easily in your top 3???
Bale and Willams would have to be 1 and 2
Third would be debateable with arguments made for Ramsey, Gunter, Ledley, (some may even say HRK) and Hennessey
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Post by abwales on Nov 13, 2015 19:39:10 GMT
Yes, easily in my top 3. Ramsey's contribution was overall disappointing for a player of his calibre. Gunter would get my playing beyond ability reward. HRK & Hennessey nowhere near the top 3.
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Post by cadno on Nov 14, 2015 1:37:53 GMT
Agree with abwales Chester was brilliant during the campaign. He looked a little bit off the ball at times tonight, lack of games under the knob head Pulis
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Post by welshiron on Nov 14, 2015 10:39:40 GMT
Chester was poor last night.
He did well in the qualifiers but the hype around him is a bit OTT
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Post by marsvolta on Nov 14, 2015 12:28:26 GMT
Chester was poor last night. He did well in the qualifiers but the hype around him is a bit OTT To be fair, he has only played 2 games all season for West Brom (which makes Pulis' comments about him playing even more confusing) |
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Post by cadno on Nov 14, 2015 13:55:58 GMT
Disagree that hype has been OTT, he's not had enough praise.
Re watched game and he had a pretty good first half, few mistakes in the 2nd half but like marsvolta says he's only played 2 games all season thanks to Pulis the Twat
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Post by cadno on Mar 31, 2016 21:14:22 GMT
Definitely one of our most underrated players, he's a real "unsung hero" for us.
Here's a small clip that displays his skill and composure on the ball, what a find he has proven to be.
Our 3 CB's - Chester, Williams & Davies were class on the whole vs Ukraine. They're all good defenders, great on the ball and read the game very well. And at the heart of that there's a brilliant leader in Ashley Williams.
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Post by squatter1 on Mar 31, 2016 22:37:40 GMT
I'm a huge James Collins supporter, especially this season when he has been immense for West Am. But I won't be complaining if Cookie selects Chester over him in France, such has been the quality of Chester's play in the past two friendlies.
Personally, I think the Chester - Williams - Collins CB scenario with Davies at LWB instead of Taylor is our strongest suit. That way we hopefully retain the ability to play it out from the back three while improving our attacking potency down the left flank with Davies, and CRUCIALLY tightening up our defence at the set piece with Ginge.
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Post by Sincere on Apr 1, 2016 10:41:39 GMT
Gunter-Williams-Collins-Chester-Davies
That would be my ideal back line. I'd have Collins central as he has been a rock for West Ham, who I watch every week (also EA Sports have rated him from 71-75-inform 79), and he rarely gets best in the air. Ash Williams and James Chester can play a bit, they can run with the ball, so them beside Collins would work better as I wouldn't expect Collins to press forwards and vacate his position.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Apr 1, 2016 11:26:53 GMT
I'm a huge James Collins supporter, especially this season when he has been immense for West Am. But I won't be complaining if Cookie selects Chester over him in France, such has been the quality of Chester's play in the past two friendlies. Personally, I think the Chester - Williams - Collins CB scenario with Davies at LWB instead of Taylor is our strongest suit. That way we hopefully retain the ability to play it out from the back three while improving our attacking potency down the left flank with Davies, and CRUCIALLY tightening up our defence at the set piece with Ginge. No mention of RWB. |
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Post by alarch on Apr 1, 2016 11:40:39 GMT
Gunter-Williams-Collins-Chester-Davies That would be my ideal back line. I'd have Collins central as he has been a rock for West Ham, who I watch every week (also EA Sports have rated him from 71-75-inform 79), and he rarely gets best in the air. Ash Williams and James Chester can play a bit, they can run with the ball, so them beside Collins would work better as I wouldn't expect Collins to press forwards and vacate his position. On the face of it this is a logical choice. The question is would the combination work well in practice? The chemistry between Chester and Williams seems to me to be great, would that still be the case if you inserted Collins between them? I don't claim I know, but there is the question as to who calls the shots in organising the back line. Can Williams do that effectively from the left of the three position? These are the sort of doubts that may mean that the Coleman goes with the tried and tested. Personally I'd have Jazz Richards ahead of Gunter at right wing back, but I very much doubt Coleman sees it that way. At least I'll be confident that Gunter will do a job defensively - which is a massive improvement on the previous campaign. |
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