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Post by iot on Apr 1, 2016 11:44:22 GMT
Gunter-Williams-Collins-Chester-Davies That would be my ideal back line. I'd have Collins central as he has been a rock for West Ham, who I watch every week (also EA Sports have rated him from 71-75-inform 79), and he rarely gets best in the air. Ash Williams and James Chester can play a bit, they can run with the ball, so them beside Collins would work better as I wouldn't expect Collins to press forwards and vacate his position. There's no denying Collins has been the in-form Welsh defender in the premier league this season. However, and this point has been made by others before, how well-suited is he to international football and more specifically, to Wales? West Ham are a far more direct team whereas we like to pass the ball around. All of our other defenders can do this but it has been Collins' main weakness and has led to several costly mistakes in a Wales shirt. He lacks the composure, touch, and short passing of the likes of Williams, Chester, and Davies. The way we play requires everyone in the team to be good footballers and I'm not sure if Collins fits in. Look, for example, at his last appearance for us where, despite being in great form for WH, took responsibility for the defence after replacing Williams and was one of the main reasons we lost that game - if I recall correctly, he misplaced a pass which directly led to the second goal. The one thing he would do however, as you've said, would be to strengthen our defence at set pieces. |
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Post by alarch on Apr 1, 2016 12:11:10 GMT
Collins has a very good chance of playing against Russia at the very least, assuming their tall striker (what's his name again?) plays.
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Post by richierich333 on Apr 1, 2016 13:15:01 GMT
Gunter-Williams-Collins-Chester-Davies That would be my ideal back line. I'd have Collins central as he has been a rock for West Ham, who I watch every week (also EA Sports have rated him from 71-75-inform 79), and he rarely gets best in the air. Ash Williams and James Chester can play a bit, they can run with the ball, so them beside Collins would work better as I wouldn't expect Collins to press forwards and vacate his position. There's no denying Collins has been the in-form Welsh defender in the premier league this season. However, and this point has been made by others before, how well-suited is he to international football and more specifically, to Wales? West Ham are a far more direct team whereas we like to pass the ball around. All of our other defenders can do this but it has been Collins' main weakness and has led to several costly mistakes in a Wales shirt. He lacks the composure, touch, and short passing of the likes of Williams, Chester, and Davies. The way we play requires everyone in the team to be good footballers and I'm not sure if Collins fits in. Look, for example, at his last appearance for us where, despite being in great form for WH, took responsibility for the defence after replacing Williams and was one of the main reasons we lost that game - if I recall correctly, he misplaced a pass which directly led to the second goal. The one thing he would do however, as you've said, would be to strengthen our defence at set pieces. Horses for courses. If someone plays a big strong centre forward and is a main target, Collins has to play. Prime example: Man of the match v Liverpool by some way and man marked Benteke off the pitch and won every header. |
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Post by iot on Apr 1, 2016 13:51:24 GMT
There's no denying Collins has been the in-form Welsh defender in the premier league this season. However, and this point has been made by others before, how well-suited is he to international football and more specifically, to Wales? West Ham are a far more direct team whereas we like to pass the ball around. All of our other defenders can do this but it has been Collins' main weakness and has led to several costly mistakes in a Wales shirt. He lacks the composure, touch, and short passing of the likes of Williams, Chester, and Davies. The way we play requires everyone in the team to be good footballers and I'm not sure if Collins fits in. Look, for example, at his last appearance for us where, despite being in great form for WH, took responsibility for the defence after replacing Williams and was one of the main reasons we lost that game - if I recall correctly, he misplaced a pass which directly led to the second goal. The one thing he would do however, as you've said, would be to strengthen our defence at set pieces. Horses for courses. If someone plays a big strong centre forward and is a main target, Collins has to play. Prime example: Man of the match v Liverpool by some way and man marked Benteke off the pitch and won every header. Fair point, but I remember that was exactly my thinking going into the belgium away game in the qualifiers and yet we came away with a cleansheet with chester and williams in the middle. |
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Post by alarch on Apr 1, 2016 13:57:43 GMT
Both Williams and Chester are surprisingly good in the air - considering that they are both short for centre backs. But against very tall opponents I know that Williams can struggle a bit. This is where James Collins comes into his own.
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Post by squatter1 on Apr 1, 2016 14:08:18 GMT
I'm a huge James Collins supporter, especially this season when he has been immense for West Am. But I won't be complaining if Cookie selects Chester over him in France, such has been the quality of Chester's play in the past two friendlies. Personally, I think the Chester - Williams - Collins CB scenario with Davies at LWB instead of Taylor is our strongest suit. That way we hopefully retain the ability to play it out from the back three while improving our attacking potency down the left flank with Davies, and CRUCIALLY tightening up our defence at the set piece with Ginge. No mention of RWB. Yeah, I just think it's so obviously gonna be Gunter - barring injuries - that it's not even worth discussing |
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Post by welwyn on Apr 1, 2016 21:42:43 GMT
The other thing to consider is, that if we are going to have a backline who is comfortable on the ball, this exacerbates the need to have either an ambidextrous or left-footed centre-half on the left of the three.
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Post by Sincere on Apr 2, 2016 1:46:40 GMT
Our 3 centre backs are fantastic, to be honest. We have to solid left backs too, and Chris Gunter at right back has looked very sound and settled, when playing for Wales. I look at our squad, and I am pleased, and genuinely only have major worries over our attacking threat.
I'm led to believe that James Chester isn't playing alot for West Bromwich Albion. Any truth in that? As far as James Collins goes, he plays often for West Ham United, in a rotation system with Reid, Ogbonna, and Tomkins.
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Post by cadno on Apr 2, 2016 11:18:06 GMT
Interesting to hear Glenn Hoddle talking about the importance of having a "footballing" centre half in international football, such as Rio Ferdinand.
I think Chester, Williams and Davies fit into this category, where as Collins is probably better suited to "up and at em" football.
Agree Collins would strengthen our defending of set pieces.
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Post by abwales on Apr 2, 2016 12:30:38 GMT
Collins' long ball ability is also a big positive. Israel away springs to mind. If he didn't hoof it and we didn't get that goal at the perfect time who knows what would have happened! The last 2 games have showed we need to get it in the box more. I wouldn't pick him over Chester or Williams, but I'd certainly consider playing him over Taylor/Davies.
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Post by cadno on Apr 2, 2016 17:14:41 GMT
Yeah good point, but it was Hennessey's long ball! He will probably feature vs Sweden, good test for our defenders especially if Ibrahimovic plays
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 24, 2016 9:22:43 GMT
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Post by georgetm1 on Jul 24, 2016 9:28:31 GMT
He is too good to be playing in the Championship. Sorry Welshram, but that would be a massive step back, especially after his fantastic performance in the Euros.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 24, 2016 9:49:07 GMT
He is too good to be playing in the Championship. Sorry Welshram, but that would be a massive step back, especially after his fantastic performance in the Euros. Have to agree, but he be in premier with us next season  Purely a selfish reasons I want him at Derby, |
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Post by underwood on Jul 24, 2016 10:24:33 GMT
He is too good to be playing in the Championship. Sorry Welshram, but that would be a massive step back, especially after his fantastic performance in the Euros. Have to agree, but he be in premier with us next season Purely a selfish reasons I want him at Derby, Mate, if Derby continue to chase it & continually fail they are more likely to end up in League One. Getting back to the point, it would be disappointing to see Chester outside the Premier League. |
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Post by readingfcwelshman on Jul 24, 2016 11:52:03 GMT
Realistically I can see him struggling to become a first team regular in the Premier League next season. He had a nightmare year at West Brom and even a one year stint in the Championship playing every week would do him a world of good for getting back into the top division. He had a great tournament in France, but most of our players have been doing well internationally for some time - and we've seen it's no guarantee of having a good time of it at club level.
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Post by manulike on Aug 11, 2016 19:34:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 8:25:48 GMT
Based on how they have started the season this might be a car wreck of a move. |
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Post by bracklablue72 on Aug 12, 2016 8:27:51 GMT
Really disappointed with this, he's way too good for the championship IMO .. Only a few weeks ago he was in a few of the pundits team of the euros
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Post by cymroircarn on Aug 12, 2016 8:52:40 GMT
Newcastle or Norwich maybe, but Villa??!! They won't be back in the Prem for years. As someone else has already said a car crash of a club at the moment
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Post by jamaro on Aug 12, 2016 10:30:47 GMT
There was talk M'boro were interested. Much rather he moved there than Villa
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Aug 12, 2016 10:54:10 GMT
There was talk M'boro were interested. Much rather he moved there than Villa Rather him moved to derby than villa |
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 12, 2016 12:24:54 GMT
Was a photo of him with the new owner of Villa, so that's gonna happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 12:48:58 GMT
They aren't even the best club in the Midlands at the moment  |
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Post by bale-droed on Aug 12, 2016 15:57:15 GMT
I'd rather he's at Villa than Hull who he was linked to. That's a positive because Hull are going down....erm yeah
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Post by Griff105 on Aug 12, 2016 17:24:18 GMT
Strange one this.
Can somebody please just check that the lad knows they've been relegated.
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Post by bale-droed on Aug 12, 2016 17:34:42 GMT
Strange one this. Can somebody please just check that the lad knows they've been relegated. I don't know why but I found that comment way funnier that I should of. I can imagine him not knowing that's why he just has pound signs in his eyes doesn't realize what he's done. But he is chuffed he doesn't need to move house |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Aug 12, 2016 17:51:17 GMT
I'd rather he's at Villa than Hull who he was linked to. That's a positive because Hull are going down....erm yeah People were saying that about Bournemouth this time last year. Needs to be playing in the Prem, he's far too good to be anywhere near the championship. It's ridiculous no premiership teams have come in for him. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Aug 12, 2016 17:51:49 GMT
*dp
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Post by manulike on Aug 12, 2016 20:38:45 GMT
Good luck to the man.
He is about to get married and seems to be very settled in Birmingham ...
I am sure he has his good reasons.
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