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Post by llan123 on Aug 12, 2016 20:42:46 GMT
I think he had a few offers in the Premier league but Villa are minted now so he's probably on top tier wages. If they go back up this season with him playing a major role in the side then he will be an established PL player for years to come.
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Post by llannerch on Aug 13, 2016 8:44:16 GMT
Boro or Villa according to the papers. Struggle in the EPL or challenge in the Championship? There's not much difference save for a few visits to top grounds
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Post by mrpicton79 on Aug 13, 2016 18:17:49 GMT
Boro or Villa according to the papers. Struggle in the EPL or challenge in the Championship? There's not much difference save for a few visits to top grounds Better standard all round in the prem. But he's chosen Villa www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37060998Don't get it personally. One of the best defenders at the euro's then steps down to the championship.  |
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Post by gwernybwch on Aug 14, 2016 6:54:06 GMT
I'm struggling to understand the James Chester mindset as well. I've not read any articles as to why he accepted the opportunity to play for Wales (but I'm certainly glad that he did), but I'm assuming that he thought that playing international football would develop him as a player.
So he has an excellent Euro 2016 and with Premier League clubs interested in him, he then decides to drop down into the Championship. Strange decision.
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 14, 2016 9:56:49 GMT
I'm struggling to understand the James Chester mindset as well. I've not read any articles as to why he accepted the opportunity to play for Wales (but I'm certainly glad that he did), but I'm assuming that he thought that playing international football would develop him as a player. So he has an excellent Euro 2016 and with Premier League clubs interested in him, he then decides to drop down into the Championship. Strange decision. Is it really a strange move? A firm offer from a club who will play him regularly. Better to play 45 games in the Championship than 5 off the bench appearances for WBA, 4 starts and 3 cup matches all out of position. He doesn't have to move house either. If he does very well he will get a big move in January or next summer. |
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Post by lj90 on Aug 14, 2016 10:39:40 GMT
I also think that he would rather play for, and develop into a first team starter at a club that is expected to be aiming to win every game with promotion than play under a dark cloud during a relegation battle.
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Post by llannerch on Aug 14, 2016 11:58:01 GMT
I also think that he would rather play for, and develop into a first team starter at a club that is expected to be aiming to win every game with promotion than play under a dark cloud during a relegation battle. This is how I see it. He wants to play. The Championship is arguably stronger than it was last year for starters, and Villa, like Newcastle, will be one of those 'big clubs' that other teams will raise their games to beat. He will be expected to be on top of his game every game. The jury for me is out on whether Di Matteo is actually a decent coach or not. Because he is deemed a 'pleasant guy' and because of the way Chelsea dispensed with his services the press are on his side. So hopefully he'll be a better manager for Chester than Pulis was. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Aug 14, 2016 20:42:05 GMT
I'm struggling to understand the James Chester mindset as well. I've not read any articles as to why he accepted the opportunity to play for Wales (but I'm certainly glad that he did), but I'm assuming that he thought that playing international football would develop him as a player. So he has an excellent Euro 2016 and with Premier League clubs interested in him, he then decides to drop down into the Championship. Strange decision. Is it really a strange move? A firm offer from a club who will play him regularly. Better to play 45 games in the Championship than 5 off the bench appearances for WBA, 4 starts and 3 cup matches all out of position. He doesn't have to move house either. If he does very well he will get a big move in January or next summer. From what I had read in the press, Swansea were in the process of drafting a bid for him. So if he had possibly hung-on he could have moved to a Premier League club and gone straight into the first team.
He might get a big move in January if he does well, equally might have got a good move in this or the January transfer window by staying at WBA.
As I see it, Villa are also a team in flux at the moment. They might get themselves together and go straight back up next season. But on the other hand, like many clubs that are relegated they might go on a downward spiral and take him on that spiral as well.
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Post by jonnylitts on Aug 15, 2016 7:02:13 GMT
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Post by llannerch on Aug 15, 2016 11:27:00 GMT
From what I had read in the press, Swansea were in the process of drafting a bid for him. Well that's Swansea's loss. The Williams saga dragged on for so long they could have drafted the bid several times over. Chester was under no obligation to hang around |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Aug 15, 2016 11:38:40 GMT
I see the Villa supporters/readers marked him as 7.8 and their 4th best player in the game. |
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Post by squatter1 on Aug 15, 2016 11:40:39 GMT
From what I had read in the press, Swansea were in the process of drafting a bid for him. Well that's Swansea's loss. The Williams saga dragged on for so long they could have drafted the bid several times over. Chester was under no obligation to hang around Yes, I think that's crap actually. The only statement that counts is: Swansea did not make a bid for James Chester. And neither did any other Premiership clubs, by the look of it. Which is weird given his showing in the Euros. He's still worth £8m+, apparently, only that a Championship club was the one to stump up the cash. |
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Post by iot on Aug 15, 2016 11:41:53 GMT
From what I had read in the press, Swansea were in the process of drafting a bid for him. Well that's Swansea's loss. The Williams saga dragged on for so long they could have drafted the bid several times over. Chester was under no obligation to hang around The problem was probably the price. Chester is reported to have gone for more than the fee paid by West Brom last year, which was £8m. If Swansea were too stingy to fork out £13m for Allen they wouldn't have contemplated paying ca. £10m for Chester. |
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Post by jbt95 on Aug 16, 2016 15:02:53 GMT
Is it really a strange move? A firm offer from a club who will play him regularly. Better to play 45 games in the Championship than 5 off the bench appearances for WBA, 4 starts and 3 cup matches all out of position. He doesn't have to move house either. If he does very well he will get a big move in January or next summer. From what I had read in the press, Swansea were in the process of drafting a bid for him. So if he had possibly hung-on he could have moved to a Premier League club and gone straight into the first team.
He might get a big move in January if he does well, equally might have got a good move in this or the January transfer window by staying at WBA.
As I see it, Villa are also a team in flux at the moment. They might get themselves together and go straight back up next season. But on the other hand, like many clubs that are relegated they might go on a downward spiral and take him on that spiral as well.
He was not guaranteed to walk into Swansea's starting XI, as a Swans fan myself Fernandez and Amat will probably be remaining our starting 2 CBs this season. He has walked straight into Villa's XI though. Any team can go either way, look at Leicester last season. |
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 17, 2016 8:35:10 GMT
This was a horrible move, A Villa are terrible: lost to Luton and then conceded a goal in the last minute at home to Huddersfield (fucking my treble up in the process). They may not bounce straight back meaning this could backfire massively.
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Post by alarch on Aug 17, 2016 11:10:29 GMT
James Chester's failure to secure a Premier League move comes down to one thing above else in my opinion - his height. At 5' 10" he's very short for a centre back. This is not so much of a problem in a back 3 or 5, but there are few Premier League managers (or managers in any top flight league) that are willing to sacrifice height for other qualities. Given that there are few teams in the PL that play with a back 5, Chester just doesn't fit. There was talk that Guidolin would go with a back 5 this season with Swansea - but that now seems unlikely. That probably explains why Swansea were lukewarm about signing him for the price tag attached.
When he signed for West Brom, he was signed by Pulis mainly as a right-back, and to provide cover at centre back. I'm not sure that Chester can be too surprised that things didn't work out given the basis on which he was signed. Perhaps the size of the pay cheque took precedence over playing at that time? Just asking...
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Post by welshiron on Aug 17, 2016 12:36:00 GMT
This was a horrible move, A Villa are terrible: lost to Luton and then conceded a goal in the last minute at home to Huddersfield (fucking my treble up in the process). They may not bounce straight back meaning this could backfire massively. If such a terrible team why would you put them in your treble? |
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 17, 2016 14:53:17 GMT
This was a horrible move, A Villa are terrible: lost to Luton and then conceded a goal in the last minute at home to Huddersfield (fucking my treble up in the process). They may not bounce straight back meaning this could backfire massively. If such a terrible team why would you put them in your treble? Skybet treble boost they are pre-picked. Gave them the benefit of the doubt to my detriment |
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Post by larslagerback on Aug 17, 2016 16:10:19 GMT
James Chester's failure to secure a Premier League move comes down to one thing above else in my opinion - his height. At 5' 10" he's very short for a centre back. This is not so much of a problem in a back 3 or 5, but there are few Premier League managers (or managers in any top flight league) that are willing to sacrifice height for other qualities. Given that there are few teams in the PL that play with a back 5, Chester just doesn't fit. There was talk that Guidolin would go with a back 5 this season with Swansea - but that now seems unlikely. That probably explains why Swansea were lukewarm about signing him for the price tag attached. When he signed for West Brom, he was signed by Pulis mainly as a right-back, and to provide cover at centre back. I'm not sure that Chester can be too surprised that things didn't work out given the basis on which he was signed. Perhaps the size of the pay cheque took precedence over playing at that time? Just asking... Being 5'10 certainly held Cannavaro back... I know, I know... |
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Post by cadno on Aug 17, 2016 17:50:36 GMT
James Chester's failure to secure a Premier League move comes down to one thing above else in my opinion - his height. At 5' 10" he's very short for a centre back. This is not so much of a problem in a back 3 or 5, but there are few Premier League managers (or managers in any top flight league) that are willing to sacrifice height for other qualities. Given that there are few teams in the PL that play with a back 5, Chester just doesn't fit. There was talk that Guidolin would go with a back 5 this season with Swansea - but that now seems unlikely. That probably explains why Swansea were lukewarm about signing him for the price tag attached. When he signed for West Brom, he was signed by Pulis mainly as a right-back, and to provide cover at centre back. I'm not sure that Chester can be too surprised that things didn't work out given the basis on which he was signed. Perhaps the size of the pay cheque took precedence over playing at that time? Just asking... You're probably right. But if you watch it back, you can hear our coaches shout at him to mark Benteke (or Fellaini maybe) in our 0-0 draw out in Brussels. He's got a good leap and reads / times things well. So it's a shame if Prem teams overlooked him because of his hight. |
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Post by Tim P on Aug 19, 2016 10:26:46 GMT
I think Di Matteo will probably get things right at Villa, so it's not a terrible move. Agree it's a shame that Swansea didn't move for him though.
For Chester to move to bigger things he'll need a proper season in the epl playing at CB. He could be man of the match for us in every game but I don't think that would help much as far as a move to the epl is concerned.
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Post by gwernybwch on Dec 29, 2016 16:50:23 GMT
I'm struggling to understand the James Chester mindset as well. I've not read any articles as to why he accepted the opportunity to play for Wales (but I'm certainly glad that he did), but I'm assuming that he thought that playing international football would develop him as a player. So he has an excellent Euro 2016 and with Premier League clubs interested in him, he then decides to drop down into the Championship. Strange decision. Is it really a strange move? A firm offer from a club who will play him regularly. Better to play 45 games in the Championship than 5 off the bench appearances for WBA, 4 starts and 3 cup matches all out of position. He doesn't have to move house either. If he does very well he will get a big move in January or next summer. It certainly has worked out for Chester at mid-table Aston Villa. I'm looking forward to his 'big move in January' (providing that the club is within easy commuting distance of his house). |
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Post by manulike on Dec 29, 2016 23:45:37 GMT
The man played 23 games this season for Villa. I assume that is every single game, which is more than you can say for Ginge, Jazz Richards or Ben Davies ...
He will turn 28 in January, and I have plenty of respect for a man that is not greedy and puts his family life first.
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Post by gwernybwch on Dec 30, 2016 13:17:57 GMT
The man played 23 games this season for Villa. I assume that is every single game, which is more than you can say for Ginge, Jazz Richards or Ben Davies ... He will turn 28 in January, and I have plenty of respect for a man that is not greedy and puts his family life first. But that's the strange thing. He decided to play for Wales. If he was really intent on putting his family life first, he could have turned down Wales and be spending international breaks and whole summers with his family. I'm assuming that he joined Wales to improve himself as a player, but then turns down the chance to regularly test himself against world class players and then signs for a club that is close to his home and virtually signs away his chance of being transferred to an EPL club in the future.
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Post by jbt95 on Dec 30, 2016 17:30:36 GMT
Is it really a strange move? A firm offer from a club who will play him regularly. Better to play 45 games in the Championship than 5 off the bench appearances for WBA, 4 starts and 3 cup matches all out of position. He doesn't have to move house either. If he does very well he will get a big move in January or next summer. It certainly has worked out for Chester at mid-table Aston Villa. I'm looking forward to his 'big move in January' (providing that the club is within easy commuting distance of his house). Not sure why you are being funny with me for. He's playing every game 90mins at the Villa in his centre back role, was sat on his arse or playing the wrong position at WBA. He's done the exact same thing as Joe Allen, gone down a level in club and played 90mins every game he's available. What's not to like? |
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Post by cadno on Dec 31, 2016 13:21:50 GMT
Not sure why you are being funny with me for. He's playing every game 90mins at the Villa in his centre back role, was sat on his arse or playing the wrong position at WBA. He's done the exact same thing as Joe Allen, gone down a level in club and played 90mins every game he's available. What's not to like? Mate I wouldn't even respond his posts are embarrassing. Great move for JC playing every week hopefully they can push on and reach the play offs. I was disappointed initially by his move to Villa but in hindsight it's great that he's playing football every week. Funny that he turned Leicester down for West Brom last season ! |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Jan 2, 2017 19:34:57 GMT
How did Chester play against Cardiff today?
Either Cardiff fans are still celebrating or are having an early night before returning to work tomorrow.
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Post by cadno on May 31, 2017 6:14:17 GMT
Virgil van Dijk has been linked with a 50m move to Liverpool, I still can't quite believe how a top prem team didn't bid for Chester, he's played a massive part in our performances over the last few years. Class act.
Chester played 45 games and made 1 defensive error throughout the season, and it didn't lead to a goal. 👏🏻
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Post by CrackityJones on May 31, 2017 7:15:55 GMT
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Post by 1gwaunview on May 31, 2017 9:46:26 GMT
As previously stated, Mr Reliable and a premier class player. Don't know why Tony Pulis didn't fancy him at West Brom.
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