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Post by hooky on Jul 17, 2024 9:40:57 GMT
Its a bit of a joke that Ireland win one game at home against a French team already qualified and are seeded with a draw against a team from pot 3! Even worse - Poland ended up with zero points and a -8 goal difference and yet are seeded versus a pot 3 team!
I like the Nations league concept but this is not a very fair qualification process at all! We know there is no real difference between the top team in group B and the bottom team in group A at one point in time.
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Post by daearegwr on Jul 17, 2024 9:41:59 GMT
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Post by hooky on Jul 17, 2024 9:47:07 GMT
You just know its gonna be us versus Grainger's Norway right? !
I think they arguably underperformed? Italy must have improved a lot (they came joint top with Netherlands (who are good) in their group but Italy women have not got a track record and have been pretty ordinary in the past whereas Norway are always qualifying and have even won the women's WC
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Post by welrus on Jul 17, 2024 11:01:24 GMT
Its a bit of a joke that Ireland win one game at home against a French team already qualified and are seeded with a draw against a team from pot 3! Even worse - Poland ended up with zero points and a -8 goal difference and yet are seeded versus a pot 3 team! I like the Nations league concept but this is not a very fair qualification process at all! We know there is no real difference between the top team in group B and the bottom team in group A at one point in time. Complicated yes, but what would be a better way? If results follow league status then bottom League A come out winners against league C in Round 1 (path 1). And top of League B come out as winners against bottom of league B in round 1 (Path 2). So in Round 2 you end up with a play off between the bottom of league A vs the top of league B which is how it should be as these are the teams closely matched. Sure, there will be some upsets but I get the logic. |
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Post by hooky on Jul 17, 2024 11:13:08 GMT
I think qualification as it is should be done differently with mixed qualification groups
Why should a Republic of Ireland and especially a Polish team get an easier route to the finals just because they happened to be promoted from a weak group while the other team could relegated from a strong group? That a group B team could get maximum points but a group A team is left with an easier route despite having zero points and a goal differential of -20 or more is just silly
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Post by surge on Jul 18, 2024 20:07:36 GMT
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Post by vvm on Jul 19, 2024 8:45:51 GMT
What's the perfect draw then? Azerbaijan or Slovakia in the first round and then play the winners of one of the ties involving a team that finished bottom of a group in league A?
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Post by daearegwr on Jul 19, 2024 9:19:27 GMT
What's the perfect draw then? Azerbaijan or Slovakia in the first round and then play the winners of one of the ties involving a team that finished bottom of a group in league A? I'd say so. Want to avoid Norway, Sweden and based on current ranking we're not too dissimilar to Czechia, Finland and ROI. ROI got 0 points but had a really tough qualifying group. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 19, 2024 11:27:29 GMT
Slovakia then either Georgia or ROI. Gotta be happy with that
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 19, 2024 11:41:56 GMT
Ideal draw from the sounds of things. Could really be our time! 🤞
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Post by vvm on Jul 19, 2024 12:41:19 GMT
Slovakia seems a pretty good draw, should be able to get past them without too much trouble.
Republic of Ireland could be tough but we've avoided some of the really tough teams so I think we've got to be happy with that draw. Think ROI were unlucky to be in such a tough nations league group, they did beat France in the last gameweek but may have been a France reserve team with them having already qualified.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jul 19, 2024 12:41:20 GMT
Slovakia had the second worst qualifying record of those countries making the playoffs W1 D1 L4. Azerbaijan were only worse on goal difference. ROI had a very tough group, but we've already shown they're beatable. It won't be easy but we should certainly make the playoff final and then it's 50 50.
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 30, 2024 20:14:45 GMT
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 16, 2024 21:25:42 GMT
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Post by hooky on Sept 16, 2024 22:00:11 GMT
Unbelievable luck
We lost our only outright striker (Hughes), our most creative forward player outside of Fishlock (Cane) and now Ingle to ACLs. Are we cursed? I don't even know but I bet you none of Ireland's big players are going to miss the play offs due to ACLs
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 16, 2024 22:24:16 GMT
Unbelievable luck We lost our only outright striker (Hughes), our most creative forward player outside of Fishlock (Cane) and now Ingle to ACLs. Are we cursed? I don't even know but I bet you none of Ireland's big players are going to miss the play offs due to ACLs we are having a bad run for sure we still have enough quality to progress and I am sure we will got everything crossed our ladies will be in the Euros next summer |
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Post by dragon64 on Oct 19, 2024 22:37:23 GMT
Not long before the first game away to Slovakia 25/10/24, return leg is on 29/10/24 Sophie is a big loss be interesting to see who gets to play in that position Thanks to @dragonsoccer once again for keeping us updated dragonsoccer.co.uk/newsite/women.php?id=1004Squad- Olivia Clark | FC Twente Laura O’Sullivan-Jones | Gwalia United Safia Middleton-Patel | Manchester United Rhiannon Roberts | Real Betis Josie Green | Crystal Palace Charlie Estcourt | DC Power Hayley Ladd | Manchester United Gemma Evans | Liverpool Mayzee Davies | Liverpool Feds - Dual Contract from Manchester United Lily Woodham | Seattle Reign - loan Crystal Palace Ella Powell | Bristol City Anna Filbey | Watford Alice Griffiths | Southampton Angharad James | Seattle Reign Lois Joel | Newcastle United Rachel Rowe | Southampton Carrie Jones | IFK Norrkoping Ffion Morgan | Bristol City Jess Fishlock | Seattle Reign Ceri Holland | Liverpool Charlotte Lee | Aston Villa Kayleigh Barton | Charlton Athletic Mary Mcateer | Sunderland Mared Griffiths | Manchester United Tianna Teisar | Bristol City Hannah Cain | Leicester City Charlotte Lee,Mared Griffiths,Tianna Teisar 3 young uncapped players in the squad  |
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Post by hooky on Oct 20, 2024 9:32:35 GMT
Its worrying that added to the setback of losing Ingle and a genuine goalscorer who was becoming more prominent (Hughes) to ACLs (with one of our creative forwards - Hannah Cain - only just coming back from an ACL on top - so probably will not play?), some of our key players are not playing (Ladd - why is she staying at Utd - they did not pick her last year and it is the same this year and Evans is not yet established at Liverpool), while Holland is still touch and go and Fishlock will be struggling with an injury.
Add to that we now have a lot of players playing in the Championship - how on earth is a player of the quality like Rowe playing in that league? Very strange
We should hopefully have enough versus Slovakia but if you are honest then Ireland looks like it may be a step too far given our depleted resources.
I do think our women's team are cursed - the way we failed against an average Northern Ireland team through a keeper dropping a ball despite having a superior 10+ goal difference and losing in a qualifier versus Switzerland in injury time of the injury time in a play off and now we have this injury / lack of game time misfortune, I bet the Irish are having no such problems with their resources?
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Post by evans1282 on Oct 20, 2024 10:56:14 GMT
Its worrying that added to the setback of losing Ingle and a genuine goalscorer who was becoming more prominent (Hughes) to ACLs (with one of our creative forwards - Hannah Cain - only just coming back from an ACL on top - so probably will not play?), some of our key players are not playing (Ladd - why is she staying at Utd - they did not pick her last year and it is the same this year and Evans is not yet established at Liverpool), while Holland is still touch and go and Fishlock will be struggling with an injury. Add to that we now have a lot of players playing in the Championship - how on earth is a player of the quality like Rowe playing in that league? Very strange We should hopefully have enough versus Slovakia but if you are honest then Ireland looks like it may be a step too far given our depleted resources. I do think our women's team are cursed - the way we failed against an average Northern Ireland team through a keeper dropping a ball despite having a superior 10+ goal difference and losing in a qualifier versus Switzerland in injury time of the injury time in a play off and now we have this injury / lack of game time misfortune, I bet the Irish are having no such problems with their resources? ACL injuries are a major issue in the women's game worldwide especially at the highest levels.But let's go with your usual glass half empty viewpoint or call it a curse!FFS!! |
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Post by hooky on Oct 20, 2024 12:04:26 GMT
One positive - if we get through the first play off, then the second play off is at the end of November. So maybe, just maybe, Cain will be up and running and Fishlock would be fully fit, while hopefully some of our women will be getting more game time. I assume it will be still far too soon for Hughes - real shame as she was developing into a very productive goalscorer - which was just what we needed!
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Post by dragon64 on Oct 20, 2024 17:58:36 GMT
Reading the last few comments ACL injuries have been a big problem throughout the women's game sadly for sometime and its not just us getting bad luck
Totally gutted for Sophie as she has been a wonderful player for us and I am hopeful she would be back if we get to Euros
On the later point I feel we have more than enough quality to get the job done and we have been playing some really good football ,totally dominating at times; and if it clicks we could give someone a hiding
Rowe and Holland are excellent players I am not under estimating the task at hand but if we play as we can we win these games, and win them well
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Post by hooky on Oct 20, 2024 20:23:29 GMT
Positively, I see there were 4 Welsh players involved in the Liverpool vs Crystal Palace game today - Evans, Green and Woodham all played 90 mins and Holland seems to have recovered from injury as she came on at the start of the second half
Meanwhile, Hannah Cain came on after 65 mins and seemed to have an impact 'They came close to adding a second but Hannah Cain was twice denied by goalkeeper Courtney Brosnan' - ironically Brosnan is the keeper for Ireland! Hope Cain's horrible injuries are behind her now
So hopefully we have enough to get past Slovakia and if we do then we have a month before the final play off match. Fingers crossed!
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Post by Belle Vue on Oct 21, 2024 8:25:13 GMT
Let’s hope the FAW fill the team sheet in correctly!
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Post by dragon64 on Oct 23, 2024 21:28:02 GMT
Is there coverage of the game/s live
the Friday game looks like a highlights show on S4C nothing live
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Post by kracken88 on Oct 25, 2024 10:40:28 GMT
The Scots and n.irish games are both live later,the BBC are usually pretty good as t broadcasting the women's games wonder why today's games isn't live,4.30 kick off time maybe?
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Post by hooky on Oct 25, 2024 11:15:25 GMT
It must be on somewhere surely?
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 25, 2024 12:02:07 GMT
It’s on BBC 2
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Post by manulike on Oct 25, 2024 13:01:03 GMT
Yep. BBC 2 Wales and online.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Oct 25, 2024 15:44:12 GMT
I can't see this online at all. BBC cocked up big time.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Oct 25, 2024 15:44:50 GMT
Finally working...
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