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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 27, 2021 21:02:28 GMT
Belgium need to get their act together or we are really up against it. 1-1 now Lukaku |
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Post by superunknown on Mar 27, 2021 21:31:01 GMT
Ireland losing to Luxembourg. Oh dear oh dear.
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Post by dai on Mar 27, 2021 21:34:46 GMT
Ireland losing to Luxembourg. Oh dear oh dear. I'm off the YBIG forum! That's mad though, they've been looking much better recently. |
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Post by jono on Mar 27, 2021 21:40:59 GMT
Take great delight in seeing Ireland lose. Hahahaha.
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Post by superunknown on Mar 27, 2021 21:46:22 GMT
Ireland losing to Luxembourg. Oh dear oh dear. I'm off the YBIG forum! That's mad though, they've been looking much better recently. Had a quick look and some of the thread titles made me laugh “Should we give up on football” haha |
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Post by underwood on Mar 27, 2021 22:07:26 GMT
Ireland losing to Luxembourg. Oh dear oh dear. I'm off the YBIG forum! That's mad though, they've been looking much better recently. They’ve scored in one match out of the last 10. ‘Looking much better recently’ might be a bit of an over-statement. |
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Post by dai on Mar 27, 2021 22:08:48 GMT
I'm off the YBIG forum! That's mad though, they've been looking much better recently. They’ve scored in one match out of the last 10. ‘Looking much better recently’ might be a bit of an over-statement. Performance wise, yes they have looked much better. |
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Post by manulike on Mar 27, 2021 22:11:02 GMT
Well done to Malta getting a great 2-2 draw out in Bratislava
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Post by underwood on Mar 27, 2021 22:12:46 GMT
They’ve scored in one match out of the last 10. ‘Looking much better recently’ might be a bit of an over-statement. Performance wise, yes they have looked much better. Well I will take your word for it, I’ve only seen them against us where they huffed & they puffed, but were never going to blow any houses down. We have never sunk as low as losing at home to Luxembourg in a qualifier thankfully. |
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Post by quetzal on Mar 27, 2021 22:14:38 GMT
The Czech game is massive. We’re slight underdogs I’d say
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Post by dai on Mar 27, 2021 22:15:35 GMT
Performance wise, yes they have looked much better. Well I will take your word for it, I’ve only seen them against us where they huffed & they puffed, but were never going to blow any houses down. We have never sunk as low as losing at home to Luxembourg in a qualifier thankfully. That's just my opinion though. Whether they have been better or not, losing to Luxembourg has to be an all time low for them. |
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Post by quetzal on Mar 27, 2021 22:15:57 GMT
Performance wise, yes they have looked much better. Well I will take your word for it, I’ve only seen them against us where they huffed & they puffed, but were never going to blow any houses down. We have never sunk as low as losing at home to Luxembourg in a qualifier thankfully. Ireland U21 are really comfortable on the ball. They have to have a 10 year project. O’Neil was a disaster appointment. |
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 27, 2021 22:21:22 GMT
Estonia look awful. They absolutely leak goals. I reckon we’d even get a comfortable 2-0 win.
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Post by dai on Mar 27, 2021 22:24:35 GMT
Estonia look awful. They absolutely leak goals. I reckon we’d even get a comfortable 2-0 win. Lost to the Czechs 6-2 and lost to Belarus 4-2, you just know we'll end up beating them with a nervy 1-0! |
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 27, 2021 22:32:42 GMT
Estonia look awful. They absolutely leak goals. I reckon we’d even get a comfortable 2-0 win. Lost to the Czechs 6-2 and lost to Belarus 4-2, you just know we'll end up beating them with a nervy 1-0! 😂 I just pray they don’t score 2 again. I’ll still go 1-0 Wales... Bale 90+3 |
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Post by rushlegend on Mar 27, 2021 23:02:28 GMT
YBIG is going crazy LOL!!!!!!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 28, 2021 0:05:07 GMT
Czechia drawing to Belgium is huge. It means if we do the formalities of 12 points from Estonia & Belarus we essentially have a 3 game must win playoff to win the group. Our games against the Czechs are now simply do or die - we have to beat them. We win this next game, and then manage to beat them again in Czechia then we're on for that final showing vs Belgium in Cardiff
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Post by irish on Mar 28, 2021 11:36:55 GMT
Morning all.
Yes, last night is a fatal blow for Kenny I fear. A draw would have put us out of qualifying anyway but the loss is crisis time and I think the players will have lost belief in Kenny. We have played really decent football in the Nations League, (I thought we should've taken 4 points off you tbh irrespective of the penalty decision) the playoff in Slovakia, match in Serbia but he has had absolutely no luck with injuries and covid withdrawals previously.
So many of our players are not playing regular football and they ran out of steam last night. Luxembourg were well worth their win and I couldn't get over the size of them. They could cause the Serbs problems.
Roll on 2024
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Post by irish on Mar 28, 2021 11:38:37 GMT
How does it work for your playoff after the Nations League?
If you finish 3rd in this group, you have an away semi-final playoff and if you finish second you have a home one yes?
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Post by welshiron on Mar 28, 2021 11:39:17 GMT
No excuses just suck it up, been there and had to do it
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Post by hooky on Mar 28, 2021 12:26:24 GMT
Serbia 6 Wales 1 Wales 0 Serbia 3 That was with a young Bale, Ramsey and co in 2012 One of the posts at the time: WHY ON EARTH IS COLEMAN STILL WALES MANAGER  he got Wales chaos, disaster and misery ... he is a nice man but he isn't good enough to be an international manager and he always struggled in his managing role ... Wales need someone, who knows what to do and Ryan Giggs, John Hartson or why not an english man like Paul Scholes x Then for the next tournament we went, qualified for the Euros and got to a semi final Ireland do not have 2 star players at the time like we had but it demonstrates the value of patience. Coleman is not a top class coach btw! A humiliating defeat can be a trigger for a turnaround. You should back the coach for now The problems are deeper. If I were Ireland - I would look at why you are losing so many Anglos as a priority - is it your facilities, coaches, culture, etc? and why you are not producing Paul McGraths, Liam Bradys, Robbie Keanes anymore? / |
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Post by quetzal on Mar 28, 2021 13:10:27 GMT
How does it work for your playoff after the Nations League? If you finish 3rd in this group, you have an away semi-final playoff and if you finish second you have a home one yes? Not sure but my understanding is that even if Wales came last in the group we’d probably still get a play off after our Nations League results |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Mar 28, 2021 13:19:43 GMT
How does it work for your playoff after the Nations League? If you finish 3rd in this group, you have an away semi-final playoff and if you finish second you have a home one yes? Not quite. If we finished second, we're in with a chance (6 in 10) of being at home and being seeded. There's obviously a decent chance (4 in 10) that we'll be away and unseeded still. If we finish third, we'll definitely be away and unseeded. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 28, 2021 13:23:02 GMT
The problems are deeper. If I were Ireland - I would look at why you are losing so many Anglos as a priority - is it your facilities, coaches, culture, etc? and why you are not producing Paul McGraths, Liam Bradys, Robbie Keanes anymore? 100% If Ireland managed to sway over 2/3/4 of their Anglos then you'd have a solid Tier 2 team. But it's all about the culture you create - that's the only reason we keep hold of so many, we embed them in the culture at a young age and don't pressure them to commit, actively encouraging them to experience other setups because we have confidence in ours and our pathway There's no reason Ireland couldn't do the same, and have a top quality squad. But it will take a bit of time to get this culture in place It's a long term project but certainly achievable with the Irish talent pool and a bit of patience |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Mar 28, 2021 14:57:09 GMT
I don't think you can really look at Stephen Kenny here are the problem. I definitely think the points raised above are fair, they've lots of players playing a good standard of football. At Championship level and above they've got far more than us but they just lack that extra bit of quality anywhere on the pitch and only have Matt Doherty playing for a top six club.
They've missed out on Rice, Grealish, Bamford, Redmond, Callum Wilson & Ampadu, and you'd imagine that they're being run in a very different way to the way we've been run for this to have happened. I'm not sure they've been able to fight off England for any player they've wanted at youth level, in the way that we have. It suggests to me that the problems are more structural and organisational, then everything being put on the manager.
The result isn't good, but I'm not convinced things would change with a change of manager. In the Nations League they were playing decent football but not taking any of their chances, and that's because they've not really got any attacking quality and that isn't going to change under a new manager. They couldn't score under Mick McCarthy either.
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Post by irish on Mar 28, 2021 15:44:40 GMT
No excuses just suck it up, been there and had to do it Huh? |
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Post by irish on Mar 28, 2021 15:46:43 GMT
I don't think you can really look at Stephen Kenny here are the problem. I definitely think the points raised above are fair, they've lots of players playing a good standard of football. At Championship level and above they've got far more than us but they just lack that extra bit of quality anywhere on the pitch and only have Matt Doherty playing for a top six club. They've missed out on Rice, Grealish, Bamford, Redmond, Callum Wilson & Ampadu, and you'd imagine that they're being run in a very different way to the way we've been run for this to have happened. I'm not sure they've been able to fight off England for any player they've wanted at youth level, in the way that we have. It suggests to me that the problems are more structural and organisational, then everything being put on the manager.The result isn't good, but I'm not convinced things would change with a change of manager. In the Nations League they were playing decent football but not taking any of their chances, and that's because they've not really got any attacking quality and that isn't going to change under a new manager. They couldn't score under Mick McCarthy either. Completely agree. That's exactly it. |
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Post by underwood on Mar 28, 2021 16:56:22 GMT
Georgia 1-0 up against Spain.
Has the Nations League given the lower-ranked teams a bit of confidence & impetus maybe?
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Post by rushlegend on Mar 28, 2021 17:08:46 GMT
Certainly there aren't many push overs now - think you are right Underwood - giving these countries "equal opportunities" etc in the NL has defo improved these nations - the gap has closed considerably over last year or two.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 28, 2021 17:43:05 GMT
Armenia 2-0 up against Iceland with Mkhitaryan
Nations League has meant more regular competition between teams of the same level, this will improve teams and I think we are seeing that now in some of these results
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