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Post by manulike on Nov 18, 2020 20:38:57 GMT
Anyone know a decent app to study Qatari Arabic on ;-))
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Post by impeachabull on Nov 18, 2020 20:47:33 GMT
Romania currently moving into Pot 2, Russia down to Pot 3. Ireland still with a chance if they can beat Bulgaria and Northern Ireland beat Romania.
Bosnia moving to Pot 4 if Greece hold onto their draw with Slovenia. If Bosnia could get a draw against Italy then Finland would drop to Pot 4 if we win.
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Post by manulike on Nov 18, 2020 21:46:43 GMT
Romania currently moving into Pot 2, Russia down to Pot 3. Ireland still with a chance if they can beat Bulgaria and Northern Ireland beat Romania. Bosnia moving to Pot 4 if Greece hold onto their draw with Slovenia. If Bosnia could get a draw against Italy then Finland would drop to Pot 4 if we win. Is that still the case? Would love to have Russia in out group!
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Post by superunknown on Nov 18, 2020 21:49:27 GMT
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Post by eppingblue1 on Nov 18, 2020 21:54:26 GMT
Thanks for that. I think I'm all over these things but I hadn't seen that. |
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Post by manulike on Nov 18, 2020 21:58:03 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 18, 2020 22:19:36 GMT
Luxembourg, Andorra & San Marino please. Plenty of potential pitfalls in Pot 3 - strongest a Pot 3 has ever looked to me, Finland right at the bottom of it is a surprise
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Post by zakbaby on Nov 18, 2020 23:39:41 GMT
Best group
1.Denmark
2.Wales
3.Iceland
4.Luxemburg
5.Andorra
6. San Marino
Worst
1. Spain
2. Wales
3. Russia
4. Bosnia
5. Kosovo
6. Moldova
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Post by impeachabull on Nov 18, 2020 23:46:40 GMT
Agree with best, except that I'd swap Denmark for Croatia.
Worst:
1. Belgium
2. Wales
3. Norway
4. Bosnia
5. Kosovo
6. Malta
Norway are definitely the one you want to avoid in Pot 3, IMO.
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Post by superunknown on Nov 18, 2020 23:49:46 GMT
Croatia on the decline for sure. I’d argue they’ll be worse than when we played them last year especially with Modric in his last few years. That’s not to say he still won’t cause us problems if he’s still around.
But obviously 80% chance it’ll be someone other than Croatia or Denmark. Hope it’s a good away day at least!
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Post by gwernybwch on Nov 19, 2020 8:50:35 GMT
Surely Northern Ireland would be an easier draw than Iceland?
The acclimatise to the heat of Qatar group -
Spain, Greece, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Malta
The 'permanent damage to my kidneys' group -
Amsterdam, Prague, Ljubljana, Tallinn, Chisinau
The 'Lonely Planet' Wales Away group -
Croatia, Russia. F**k any country out of Pots 4, 5 and 6 :-)
What a time to be a Welsh international football fan!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 19, 2020 10:04:26 GMT
I want to avoid Norway at all costs simply because that Erling Haaland sends gives me nightmares I think I feel about him how other countries must have felt about Bale when he was in his prime. Just that fear that if he turns up and has a good game there might be a absolutely nothing you can do as a team to stop him. I think I fear him more because he's in a Pot 3 team as well which means it could be a huge banana skin. I hope we avoid Norway completely for the next 10 years tbh For context, his performance vs N.I is exactly what I'm talking about youtu.be/LnGk30WCmus |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 19, 2020 10:11:12 GMT
I want to avoid Norway at all costs simply because that Erling Haaland sends gives me nightmares I think I feel about him how other countries must have felt about Bale when he was in his prime. Just that fear that if he turns up and has a good game there might be a absolutely nothing you can do as a team to stop him. I think I fear him more because he's in a Pot 3 team as well which means it could be a huge banana skin. I hope we avoid Norway completely for the next 10 years tbh For context, his performance vs N.I is exactly what I'm talking about youtu.be/LnGk30WCmusI watched that game. It was a one man show, he absolutely murdered them. We have to be hoping for Northern Ireland from that pot, if we're not too hung up on away days. Russia, Czech Republic, Scotland and Finland all had decent nations league campaigns and could make things tricky for us, Iceland impressed me in their home match against England which I felt they were unlucky to lose, Norway have a future Ballon D'Or winner and Greece have a rather young side which could well have improved massively by 2022. Northern Ireland stick out as the poorest side amongst that lot for me, and aren't as hard to beat as they were 4 years ago. It's pointless discussing it though as it's nailed on that we'll draw Ireland. |
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 19, 2020 13:18:26 GMT
Iceland in pot 3, Bosnia in pot 4...
Could this be the worry for us moving up into Group A in the Nations League? If we compete brilliant, if it’s a bit too much for us we fall from pot 2.
I think it could be better for UEFA and FIFA to just go with the Nations League pooling. Bosnia and Iceland either just scraping pot 1 or high pot 2.
I think staying in pot 2 is the way to go.
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Post by hal on Nov 19, 2020 15:31:21 GMT
Best group,
1. Croatia
2. Wales
3. Finland or NI
4. Belarus
5. Andorra
6. San Marino ( I would love to have these in the group to give the youngsters opportunities to play competitive games)
Worst Group
1. France
2. Wales
3. Norway (They will be at the top of Pot 2 come next qualifiers)
4. Bosnia
5. Kazakhstan
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 20, 2020 15:58:20 GMT
Iceland in pot 3, Bosnia in pot 4... Could this be the worry for us moving up into Group A in the Nations League? If we compete brilliant, if it’s a bit too much for us we fall from pot 2. I think it could be better for UEFA and FIFA to just go with the Nations League pooling. Bosnia and Iceland either just scraping pot 1 or high pot 2. I think staying in pot 2 is the way to go. NI beat Bosnia away don't forget. I don't think they are anything like the team we faced in 14/15 anymore. Iceland have been on a continual downhill slope since the end of 2017. Probably not a popular opinion, but relegation from League A is probably not the worst thing in some ways as we could then gain promotion from League B in 2024 and get into the 2026 WCQ play-offs - assuming the format stays the same with the expansion of the WC then. |
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 20, 2020 16:03:28 GMT
We have to be hoping for Northern Ireland from that pot, if we're not too hung up on away days. If people wanna go to these places there's nothing stopping people. I'd rather us win games and qualify for tournaments than a nice few days away. |
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Post by barry on Nov 20, 2020 16:16:33 GMT
I'm not sure it really matters much who we get from pots 4,5, and 6. Especially 5 and 6.
If they're strong for those pots then they are just as likely to take a point or two off the top teams as they are against us.
Slight chance they could slip into the top two I suppose.
So I'd go for
Denmark
Nord Irland
Luxembourg
plus 1 or 2 others
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 20, 2020 17:38:44 GMT
I'm not sure it really matters much who we get from pots 4,5, and 6. Especially 5 and 6. If they're strong for those pots then they are just as likely to take a point or two off the top teams as they are against us. Slight chance they could slip into the top two I suppose. So I'd go for Denmark Nord Irland Luxembourg plus 1 or 2 others There's some decent teams in pot 5, Azerbaijan were not walk overs in the EURO campaign. Kosovo are in a false position due to their limited history. I'd rather have somebody like Latvia. |
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Post by quetzal on Nov 20, 2020 17:55:02 GMT
Denmark, Wales, Rep Ireland, Bulgaria, Azerbaijan , San Marino please. I don’t care about repeat games. All about qualifying. ROI are gash at the minute
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 20, 2020 18:07:07 GMT
Denmark, Wales, Rep Ireland, Bulgaria, Azerbaijan , San Marino please. I don’t care about repeat games. All about qualifying. ROI are gash at the minute ROI have a team almost full of Premier League level players when fit. We couldn't beat them away from home when they had a heavily depleted squad, also they have a couple of young, promising strikers. Avoid. |
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Post by quetzal on Nov 20, 2020 18:12:36 GMT
Denmark, Wales, Rep Ireland, Bulgaria, Azerbaijan , San Marino please. I don’t care about repeat games. All about qualifying. ROI are gash at the minute ROI have a team almost full of Premier League level players when fit. We couldn't beat them away from home when they had a heavily depleted squad, also they have a couple of young, promising strikers. Avoid. We got their number now. They’re a shambles! And they take results off other teams. If it’s all weak teams then it’s a bun fight between the top two. Get a couple of spoilers in there. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Nov 20, 2020 19:38:46 GMT
I'm not sure it really matters much who we get from pots 4,5, and 6. Especially 5 and 6. A long ass flight to Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan, a 4 hour bus trip to Andorra, playing in Cyprus heat at the start of September versus playing in Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia. I think that I know which the FAW will prefer. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 20, 2020 19:53:41 GMT
ROI have a team almost full of Premier League level players when fit. We couldn't beat them away from home when they had a heavily depleted squad, also they have a couple of young, promising strikers. Avoid. We got their number now. They’re a shambles! And they take results off other teams. If it’s all weak teams then it’s a bun fight between the top two. Get a couple of spoilers in there. Finland gained 2 points on us with our results against Ireland compared to theirs. We beat Finland home & away and would rather play them again than Ireland who seem to know how to limit us |
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Post by quetzal on Nov 20, 2020 20:12:03 GMT
We got their number now. They’re a shambles! And they take results off other teams. If it’s all weak teams then it’s a bun fight between the top two. Get a couple of spoilers in there. Finland gained 2 points on us with our results against Ireland compared to theirs. We beat Finland home & away and would rather play them again than Ireland who seem to know how to limit us I will say Ireland will always want to play us because they think we’re a tinpot outfit without Bale and Ramsey. They might have a point |
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Post by dai on Nov 20, 2020 20:30:43 GMT
Denmark, Wales, Rep Ireland, Bulgaria, Azerbaijan , San Marino please. I don’t care about repeat games. All about qualifying. ROI are gash at the minute ROI have a team almost full of Premier League level players when fit. We couldn't beat them away from home when they had a heavily depleted squad, also they have a couple of young, promising strikers. Avoid. I agree, they could (should) have won in Ireland as well. Plus we struggled to beat them home when they also had a huge number of players missing. I'd hate to play them again, and I think they probably feel like owing us one now. For best chances of qualifying I'd say: Croatia (aging team, not THAT many up and coming players) Wales Iceland Belarus Faroe Islands Moldova My bogey group: Portugal Wales Norway Georgia Kosovo Malta I'm very surprised that Norway are in pot 3. |
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 21, 2020 9:52:07 GMT
Croatia, Wales, Greece, Luxembourg, Andorra, San Marino.
I think we’ll get a horrible group though.
Spain, Wales, Scotland, Bosnia, Kosovo.
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Post by manulike on Nov 21, 2020 22:33:47 GMT
Let me just say that if we draw:
Spain
Russia
Belarus
Faro Islands
Malta
AND THEN we are told that the matches are behind closed doors
#THERE.WILL.BE.HELL.TO.PAY
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 23, 2020 15:24:27 GMT
Here's another 4 reasons I'd like to avoid Norway. Seriously, for his 3rd goal the defender just takes 1 slack touch and he makes up about 10 yards to pinch the ball off him & then no one's catching him - including the keeper youtu.be/byq5jWhLk8Q |
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Post by cymru98 on Nov 23, 2020 15:48:05 GMT
Here's another 4 reasons I'd like to avoid Norway. Seriously, for his 3rd goal the defender just takes 1 slack touch and he makes up about 10 yards to pinch the ball off him & then no one's catching him - including the keeper youtu.be/byq5jWhLk8Q10 goals in his last 8 matches. The pace he’s got and his finishing, would hate to be matched against him.. |
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