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Post by bale-droed on Jan 9, 2012 19:00:18 GMT
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Post by Tim P on Jan 9, 2012 19:04:00 GMT
Find this pretty staggering. King, Gallas, Dawson, Bassong...Collins?
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Post by llannerch on Jan 9, 2012 21:58:19 GMT
Find this pretty staggering. King, Gallas, Dawson, Bassong...Collins? Kaboul |
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Post by Tim P on Jan 9, 2012 22:44:18 GMT
Yeah, forgot about him - really don't see why this move would happen.
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Post by saints19 on Jan 9, 2012 23:45:29 GMT
Definitely better off at Villa. Wouldn't get much football at Spurs.
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Post by rushlegend on Jan 10, 2012 9:55:32 GMT
Wouldn't get much football at Spurs.
Hopefully not for there sake LOL!!!!!
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Post by idiot on Jan 10, 2012 11:06:18 GMT
if true,then i think he should go for it
redknapp's quite good at getting the best out of his players and villa arent going anywhere quickly
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Post by leescratchpele on Jan 10, 2012 11:33:11 GMT
Collins has been linked to Newcastle, Sunderland and QPR also.
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Post by Tim P on Jan 10, 2012 12:34:08 GMT
The three above would all be better than Spurs - he'd have more chance of a game, and all three have(or will have) defensively minded managers.
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Post by llannerch on Jan 10, 2012 13:37:50 GMT
O'Neill signed him before (for Villa) and Pardew might have worked with him at West Ham (though Curbishley signed him). And Hughes obviously capped him several times. So leescratchpele's list seems credible.....
....or it's just join-the-dots, tabloid tittle tattle
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Post by flynnfan on Jan 10, 2012 13:40:09 GMT
Newcastle and Sunderland have managers Collins has played well under before. QPR are soon to be managed by someone else he knows well, and he'd be reunited with his mate Danny Gabbidon. All three would make much more sense than Spurs. I find it hard to imagine Collins in a Spurs shirt. Its not a move that makes much sense to me.
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Post by idiot on Jan 10, 2012 14:19:43 GMT
its a move that would surprise me but i think a move to spurs MIGHT give him a new lease of life,he moves to sunderland,qpr,newcastle then i fear were just going to get the same old james collins
that said he could quite as easily rot in the spurs reserves for ages
he seems to be stuck in a rut at the moment
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Post by flynnfan on Jan 10, 2012 15:38:45 GMT
Newcastle are bigger club than any he's played for before, and they've got some quality players now. He played well under Pardew at WHU, they need reinforcements in defence. If I was Collins I'd be pushing for a move up there.
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Post by idiot on Jan 10, 2012 15:47:50 GMT
why are newcastle a big club?isnt this a bit of a myth?
they arent regular champions league qualifiers,they dont have a history of winning trophies,infact west ham who collins has played for have far more in the trophy cabinet than they do
is it because the have a decent sized stadium?is it because they have fans who like to take their shoes and tops off??they dont have a nationwide or worldwide following so it cant be that either
yours truly
confused of north wales
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Post by flynnfan on Jan 10, 2012 16:28:38 GMT
Average crowds of around 50,000- 15,000 or so more than Villa. Been in the champions league - unlike Villa or West Ham.
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Post by idiot on Jan 10, 2012 18:28:15 GMT
blackburn have been in the champions league aswell
so big crowd,big club?
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Post by Tim P on Jan 10, 2012 18:36:38 GMT
I think the difference between them is that Newcastle have greater potential to be an elite club. 50+ thousand for a mediocre epl side? That's pretty incredible. I'm sure they could add 10,000 to that were there to become Champions Leagues regulars...it's just getting there that's the problem. No one really knows precisely what Ashley's true Idea is yet.
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Post by idiot on Jan 10, 2012 18:55:52 GMT
obviously they have the greater potential but the reality is they will never be champs league regulars,they spent years in the wilderness until keegan took over,had a few years in the sun and then went back into the hole from which they came and they wont add 10k to their regular crowd as the stadium only holds 52k  |
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Post by Tim P on Jan 10, 2012 19:12:49 GMT
Ha, true enough. But Im pretty sure there would be an option to add seats. If they have a Manchester City-esque takeover, they have every chance of getting in the top four, but under this regime, that seems unlikely (although, like I said, no one really knows what Ashely wants.)
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Post by flynnfan on Jan 10, 2012 19:22:48 GMT
idiot- I never said Newcastle are an elite club, or a champions league club or anything like that. I just said they are a bigger club than Villa, WHU or Cardiff. And yeah, thats mainly down to their massive crowds. Or do you really think that because Villa and WHU won a few trophies over 30 years ago they are bigger? And how far back do we have to go? Because Preston North end won shitloads at the end of the 19th century. Are they a bigger club than Newcastle?
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Post by idiot on Jan 10, 2012 19:33:28 GMT
Ha, true enough. But Im pretty sure there would be an option to add seats. If they have a Manchester City-esque takeover, they have every chance of getting in the top four, but under this regime, that seems unlikely (although, like I said, no one really knows what Ashely wants.) you could say that about almost any club in the country |
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Post by idiot on Jan 10, 2012 19:39:30 GMT
idiot- I never said Newcastle are an elite club, or a champions league club or anything like that. I just said they are a bigger club than Villa, WHU or Cardiff. And yeah, thats mainly down to their massive crowds. Or do you really think that because Villa and WHU won a few trophies over 30 years ago they are bigger? And how far back do we have to go? Because Preston North end won shitloads at the end of the 19th century. Are they a bigger club than Newcastle? my point is,newcastle have never been a big club,they've never won anything of note,traditionally they are a 2nd tier club,this support wasnt always around,the fans found the club again once keegan took over,they werent so fanatical before then id rank them along side west ham,but villa are a bigger club |
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Post by Tim P on Jan 10, 2012 20:32:25 GMT
Ha, true enough. But Im pretty sure there would be an option to add seats. If they have a Manchester City-esque takeover, they have every chance of getting in the top four, but under this regime, that seems unlikely (although, like I said, no one really knows what Ashely wants.) you could say that about almost any club in the country Not really. Blackburn or Wigan, for example, could never get 65,000 fans, irrespective of how successful they were. |
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Post by welshiron on Mar 1, 2012 9:31:08 GMT
Where was he last night not even on the bench.
Despite his obvious mistakes I still think he's the best option we have.
We also need Neil Taylor or at least a left footer playing left back
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Post by rushlegend on Mar 1, 2012 9:58:18 GMT
The best option we have!!!
Sorry don't think so, he has cost us qualification for Euro 2012 IMO and we have improved vastly since his omission - with hopefully Ben Turner on board soon i hope we have seen the last of Collins.
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Post by njdragon on Mar 1, 2012 10:29:39 GMT
Whoever put out that team last night, what were they thinking? We need Taylor playing alongside williams, we need collins on the bench.
Why taylor never even came on i don't know, i'm sure he was warming up? and for mathews to play out of position in his place. Very strange! especially when Gunter and Ricketts can cover left back if taylor was carrying a knock.
Also price over jason brown?
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Post by leescratchpele on Mar 1, 2012 10:37:21 GMT
I can only imagine Taylor wasn't 100% - the decision not to play him would be bizarre otherwise.
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Post by njdragon on Mar 1, 2012 10:40:41 GMT
I swear i saw him warming up though plus he was on the bench
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Post by flynnfan on Mar 1, 2012 10:49:39 GMT
For all the people complaining about Matthews playing at left back, it should be pointed out that he played there- and played very well there- in our last game vs Norway.
I'm a huge Neil Taylor fan though - disappointed he didn't play last night ...for whatever reason.
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Post by njdragon on Mar 1, 2012 10:59:16 GMT
he didn't do a good job last night though and was expecting him to be replaced at half time.
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