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Post by rushlegend on Feb 20, 2012 13:06:35 GMT
Henley has been added to the stand-by list for next weeks Costa Rica match
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Post by llannerch on Feb 20, 2012 13:09:40 GMT
But if Henley is genuinely undecided why should he not say so? By the logic of many here he should turn down U21 call ups if he isn't committed. But not being decided isn't the same as not being committed
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2012 13:15:14 GMT
Klinsmann is using the throw enough shit at the wall and see what sticks technique of managing the yanks. He's got more chance of playing in a world cup for them than he has with us. If he doesn't want to commit to Wales then I don't think we should continue calling him up to our youth teams. This is exactly the kind of thing that Lauren Blanc was banging on about when he wanted a race quota introduced to French football. They spend all that time and money developing players only for them to go and play for another country. The only problem with this attitude though is that playing for our youth teams might make it so that he wants to play for us at senior level. One question that could settle it is this. Assuming we've got our next game under control, would his 6 games (only 2 full) for Blackburn make him a more worthy candidate for a substitute appearance than one of our U21s? Interesting points. One thing I would say, I think that we've had maybe three defections in living memory (perhaps there are one or two more that I am forgetting), whereas France have had a shedload of pretty high profile players ditching them - though this isn't to say that all of them would have been first choice French players by any stretch (although I guess that isn't entirely the point.) I think that Henley is probably worth a call to the squad at least - it's not as if we have to give him the full 90 minutes or anything - just get him involved, like we did with Jon Williams, and make him feel part of things. Gunter plays for a dire Forest team in the english championship...Henley is a squad member for a poor, but battling, epl side. It's worth looking at. Agreed! |
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Post by llannerch on Feb 20, 2012 13:18:36 GMT
Interesting points. One thing I would say, I think that we've had maybe three defections in living memory (perhaps there are one or two more that I am forgetting), whereas France have had a shedload of pretty high profile players ditching them - though this isn't to say that all of them would have been first choice French players by any stretch (although I guess that isn't entirely the point.) I think that Henley is probably worth a call to the squad at least - it's not as if we have to give him the full 90 minutes or anything - just get him involved, like we did with Jon Williams, and make him feel part of things. Gunter plays for a dire Forest team in the english championship...Henley is a squad member for a poor, but battling, epl side. It's worth looking at. Agreed! I agree too. What we shouldn't do is cap him to stop anyone else capping him. It devalues the cap completely. We'd also come off worse than most home nations in such a race to the bottom |
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Post by georgetm1 on Feb 20, 2012 15:46:46 GMT
I watched his interview on Sports Wales last Friday, and he left me with the impression that he didn't care about playing for Wales and he didn't see his future with Wales. Flynn was trying to make out that he is a very proud Welshman, but Henley was skirting around the questions about the national team and it showed me he was no way fully commited.
I would rather have someone else take his position than have him not turning up for games and treating us like a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2012 16:15:00 GMT
I watched his interview on Sports Wales last Friday, and he left me with the impression that he didn't care about playing for Wales and he didn't see his future with Wales. Flynn was trying to make out that he is a very proud Welshman, but Henley was skirting around the questions about the national team and it showed me he was no way fully commited. I would rather have someone else take his position than have him not turning up for games and treating us like a joke. That's just what I thought. |
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Post by abwales on Feb 20, 2012 18:25:47 GMT
I watched his interview on Sports Wales last Friday, and he left me with the impression that he didn't care about playing for Wales and he didn't see his future with Wales. Flynn was trying to make out that he is a very proud Welshman, but Henley was skirting around the questions about the national team and it showed me he was no way fully commited. I would rather have someone else take his position than have him not turning up for games and treating us like a joke. Exactly what I was thinking when I saw it. I purposefully don't go around checking how the duel qualified youngsters have got on after a Saturday afternoon like I do for some players because I don't want to get excited about them playing for Wales when they could easily just switch. One thing that's worrying is that the duel qualified youngsters are actually the best ones we have, unlike in the past where generally the best players have been fully Welsh. As much as it would hinder us, I believe when you've played for U17's or whatever you should be locked into that nation. |
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Post by llannerch on Feb 21, 2012 13:59:56 GMT
Maybe his mam will put him in his place?
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Mar 8, 2012 22:46:23 GMT
I know its rugby but the IRB have the right idea about eligibility
Even though they are to review it
"Although Shingler had not signed the union eligibility confirmation form he had been fully advised by the WRU that playing in the France Under-20 v Wales Under-20 match during the 2011 Under-20 Six Nations would capture him for Wales."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 11:11:48 GMT
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Post by llannerch on Mar 9, 2012 12:02:24 GMT
I know its rugby but the IRB have the right idea about switching eligibility I think this is more accurate. It's not Shingler's fault the WRU couldn't afford an A team. Neither is it his fault that he has to make the decision on nationality a year earlier than previously (it used to be under 21 teams, rather than u20s) and he was called up as an 18 year old. The view is that because of the application of the rules specifically in Wales he had to make a call on his eligibility earlier than he would otherwise wish to. I thought Shingler was a bit of a plum at first, but now I have sympathy with him. That said this is rugger talk and more appropriate elsewhere  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 12:07:30 GMT
I know its rugby but the IRB have the right idea about switching eligibility I think this is more accurate. It's not Shingler's fault the WRU couldn't afford an A team. Neither is it his fault that he has to make the decision on nationality a year earlier than previously (it used to be under 21 teams, rather than u20s) and he was called up as an 18 year old. The view is that because of the application of the rules specifically in Wales he had to make a call on his eligibility earlier than he would otherwise wish to. I thought Shingler was a bit of a plum at first, but now I have sympathy with him. That said this is rugger talk and more appropriate elsewhere If its appropriate to slag the people who watch it off then surely discussing the sport itself is fair game?  |
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Post by llannerch on Mar 14, 2012 13:40:17 GMT
I love rugby....no slagging off of others who watch it from me, yer honour.
That's flynnfan's hobby
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Post by flynnfan on Mar 14, 2012 20:19:56 GMT
I love rugby....no slagging off of others who watch it from me, yer honour. That's flynnfan's hobby You're right. It's on my CV between yoga and mountain biking. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2012 20:27:20 GMT
I love rugby....no slagging off of others who watch it from me, yer honour. That's flynnfan's hobby We need some sort of rugby sympathiser marker for our profiles. Kind of like the discussion forum version of electronic tagging ;D |
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Post by flynnfan on Mar 14, 2012 20:30:38 GMT
I love rugby....no slagging off of others who watch it from me, yer honour. That's flynnfan's hobby We need some sort of rugby sympathiser marker for our profiles. Kind of like the discussion forum version of electronic tagging ;D Ah, but you mean rugby UNION storm. Cos I love league, I do |
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Post by bellerzcfc on Mar 15, 2012 13:21:55 GMT
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Nov 17, 2012 17:21:44 GMT
Started the last couple of games for Blackburn at full back, starting again today!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2012 21:19:17 GMT
Spoken highly of by Blackburn fans, whats up with him though as he has not been called up of late? Is he holding out for the USA given our downturn in form?
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Nov 17, 2012 21:21:18 GMT
only recently he has started playing regular mate, been a fixture in our u21s aswel, looks a very promising attacking fullback!
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Post by abwales on Nov 17, 2012 21:50:53 GMT
Its still very possible that he'll end up playing for the US or England. I'll get excited about his talent when he's locked in, if he does end up being locked in.
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 17, 2012 22:20:54 GMT
Last time I saw him play was for the u21s vs Czech Republic. We lost 5-0 and he was probably our worst player. Absolutely abysmal. That might be one reason why he hasn't been called up to the senior squad.
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Post by llannerch on Nov 18, 2012 11:45:57 GMT
So he's only just held down a regular club spot, has put in poor u21 displays and his commitment 'to the cause' isn't clear. Yet some advocate capping him competitively so he can't play for other teams. It demeans and devalues a Welsh cap
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 11:42:40 GMT
So he's only just held down a regular club spot, has put in poor u21 displays and his commitment 'to the cause' isn't clear. Yet some advocate capping him competitively so he can't play for other teams. It demeans and devalues a Welsh cap Agreed. Lets not forget this interview from him in February! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17090964 |
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Post by georgetm1 on Nov 19, 2012 15:58:32 GMT
I remember that interview on Sports Wales, and my opinion is exactly the same. If he can't commit to the national team that has given him the opportunity to play international football, then he can fuck off and pretend to himself that other nations want him.
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Post by welshiron on Nov 20, 2012 16:48:09 GMT
Once he is good enough pick him and not before, simple as that for me
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Post by cadno on Feb 16, 2015 12:49:48 GMT
What is the toughest decision you had to make in the last few months? "I wouldn’t say I’ve made it yet, but the toughest decision for me is going to be internationally. Obviously being able to qualify for Wales, America and England, and being pulled each way, it’s going to be a very hard decision. It’s been bouncing around for at least two years now and when I finally get round to it, it’s going to be a very hard decision." Read more at www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/adam-henley-2122883.aspx#iPD0G2Wd2hCpbfL1.99Thoughts? |
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Post by dayoo87 on Feb 16, 2015 13:42:11 GMT
What is the toughest decision you had to make in the last few months? "I wouldn’t say I’ve made it yet, but the toughest decision for me is going to be internationally. Obviously being able to qualify for Wales, America and England, and being pulled each way, it’s going to be a very hard decision. It’s been bouncing around for at least two years now and when I finally get round to it, it’s going to be a very hard decision." Read more at www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/adam-henley-2122883.aspx#iPD0G2Wd2hCpbfL1.99Thoughts? Seems like an honest assessment of his situation. If he genuinely hasn't made up his mind then fair enough, he's not going to burn his bridges with USA (and supposedly England, although I can't see them showing much interest in him at present) particularly as we have at least 5 full-backs who are at least as good as him, the oldest being 26. I'm half English and would have loved the opportunity to be good enough to stick 2 fingers up to the English FA and play for Wales. More difficult for people who genuinely feel equal allegiance with more than 1 country, or none at all. |
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Post by Tim P on Feb 16, 2015 13:55:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 17:08:32 GMT
I think I may have got this guy confused with Joel Lynch, or maybe they are both not very interested in international football.
Patently obvious hes never gonna play for England, as said above we are inundated with full backs so he is not a concern for us either. If he was a striker....
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